Andre0720 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Retiredandhappyhere said: When I divorced my Thai wife a few years ago, I left her with our beautiful home and garden, where she still lives with our young son, for whom I pay maintenance. Nowadays, when I go back there to collect him to stay with me during his school holidays, I cannot bear to go through the main gate, let alone go into the house, as the last time I did so, about 4 years ago, the whole place was in a disgusting state, with rubbish everywhere. Several dogs, a few ducks and many chickens roaming around added to the general mess. As I live over 500 kms away, my initial periodic efforts at cleaning things up a bit for my son's sake, proved absolutely fruitless. I don't think she notices the junk and mess at all. Seems like filth makes Thai people feel at home. How many times I go to a 7-11, and see Thai people walk out, take the wrapper off whatever they bought, walk by the thrash bin, and throw their wrapper on the ground, then ride their motorbike away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Soon to be a province of China 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Media1 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Andre0720 said: Seems like filth makes Thai people feel at home. How many times I go to a 7-11, and see Thai people walk out, take the wrapper off whatever they bought, walk by the thrash bin, and throw their wrapper on the ground, then ride their motorbike away... True and they do not care. Police do not enforce non roadworthy vehicles. To busy chasing scooters lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 What a moron, just blames it on the tourists, all foreigners of course. Thais would never pollute the country ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lovelomsak Posted July 12, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, SunsetT said: Sadly I think it is their genes from when in pre-plastic days they lived in houses on stilts and the living room/kitchen was the dirt-floored area under the house. Food waste and all other garbage was just dropped to the floor for the pets, pigs and chickens to eat and what was left was soon broken down by the hot tropical activity of insects and microbes. House cleaning would be sweeping it out of the living area once or twice a day and this is exactly what my Thai family used to do in our 1st rented house. No waste bins, they just dropped everything unwanted onto the floor and when it became too much to ignore they'd sweep it out of the door and just leave it there! Evolution takes time. You are definitely right about this. That is the way they lived for centuries. On raised houses. every thing was swept out of the house and the pigs and chickens ate what fell on the ground. Every thing they used was bio degradable .. They just have not adjusted their thinking and ways to modern times 30 years ago I stayed with the Akha and they had zero pollution,zero garbage. Their village was clean.Every 10 years they moved the village and let the jungle reclaim the land. This was brought to and end by governments and NGO's. Now they live in squalor and pollution.with many problems with drugs and alcoholism etc. Thai's do not understand garbage they understand drop things on the ground and let nature take its course. Which as we all can see does not work in these times with plastic and such Edited July 12, 2018 by lovelomsak 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rori ban khun fang Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Where I am located in Uttaradit, Jomtien south or between Hua Hin and Cha-am (lake Tung Nham) I seldom see tourists. So it must only be concentrated in the normal hotspots like walking street, nana plaza, phuket and andaman sea. For the rest it is quiet here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henrik Andersen Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 10 hours ago, webfact said: Tourism can create, and at the same time, tourism can disrupt," said Weerasak, 52, in an interview in his office in the Thai capital. "Congestion is no good for anyone, including the hosts and the guests." and the 70 millions Thai people still not do anything wrong only tourists get the blame wake up Thailand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunsetT Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Brunolem said: Not exactly... The Chinese intermarried...between Chinese families, then changed their names to make them sound Thai. Then they created almost all the businesses, especially the big ones, and kept the local population in total ignorance with the help of what is probably the worst school system in the world. Finally, the Thais didn't close the barn after the horse had bolted, but after the Chinese Trojan horse had been invited in! I didnt know about the changing of names..... I agree about the appalling education system but never thought their could be an ulterior Chinese motive behind it. Where did you glean this info.? Id like to read more on it. .......I meant Thais closing the barn door to prevent farangs buying when the Chinese already own nearly everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 11 hours ago, webfact said: Thailand’s Tourism Minister Weerasak Kowsurat holds up a picture frame containing pieces of an instant-noodle packet recovered from the stomach of the whale. Bu_ger the tourist industry. I doubt the whale was too thrilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newnative Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 2 hours ago, Brunolem said: Many of them land at Suvarnabhumi airport, get out, see the trash,then immediately go back inside the airport to board a plane leaving Thailand...yet they are counted as tourists since their passports have been stamped... Nope. Tourists--and when I say tourists I mean tourists, and not long-term visitors, expats, weekenders, snowbirds,etc.--do not really care about things like trash, the state of the sidewalks, the state of the roads, traffic congestion, the number of shade trees on the beach, the competence of the politicians, and all the many, many other things we, as full or part-time residents, or frequent visitors, moan and groan about. They are tourists, here today and gone in a week or so, crossing this place or that off their bucket list. They may remark to themselves that the sidewalks are lousy but, no big deal for them--they don't live here and they can put up with lousy sidewalks for their short stay. Same for everything else--including trash. I've read some stories that Rome is not as clean as it used to be. Is that going to stop me from finally visiting as a tourist? Nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinsdale Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 11 hours ago, mok199 said: NO...The Onslaught of ''Budget Tourists'',lawless disrespectful thais and Poorly run ,corrupt tour groups is stressing out Thailand..but we can always go to the new mall You missed one very important word.........CHINESE. Sorry for shouting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SunsetT said: I didnt know about the changing of names..... I agree about the appalling education system but never thought their could be an ulterior Chinese motive behind it. Where did you glean this info.? Id like to read more on it. .......I meant Thais closing the barn door to prevent farangs buying when the Chinese already own nearly everything. When I was involved in business in Bangkok, I had some interesting contacts with very well connected Thai-Chinese businessmen, and businesswomen...the latter being more open to talking than the men. Actually, the Thai-Chinese I met were not making a secret of their way of life. They told me how they had changed their names, yet always keeping a subtle part of their former name in their new one, so that it would allow each other to know who was of Chinese origin and who was not... Obviously, for a small number of foreign families to hold a whole country in their hands, the local population must be kept in ignorance, thus remaining in a state of submission, while providing a regular flow of low cost workers. One of their most "amazing" achievement is to have convinced the Thai population that it has never been colonized, and making it repeat this mantra again and again... Edited July 12, 2018 by Brunolem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surangw Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 so, TOT went from inflating the number of tourists to getting too many ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 The authority keeps farting from their mouth by repeating this issue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 6 hours ago, lensta said: I would just like to know where these record number of tourists go. I have lived in a beachside tourist town since 2008 and the numbers of tourists have decreased year on year. Now the high season is shorter with less tourists. Now during low season, it is like a ghost town. Lensta, this is a mystery to me also. My small beach town 3 hours south of Bangkok is also a ghost town, only slightly better in high season. But, do you really want to know where the tourists go? I'm just glad it's not here. I am constantly amazed at the amount of trash and the multiple places it is dumped and burned though. Any open place along the road is apparently a great place to dump whatever isn't needed. It seems that it gets burned by people who just enjoy the fires and smoke. The lack of environmental ignorance among many Thai is truly staggering. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 12 hours ago, mok199 said: NO...The Onslaught of ''Budget Tourists'',lawless disrespectful thais and Poorly run ,corrupt tour groups is stressing out Thailand..but we can always go to the new mall True. One just needs to visit places like Cha-am, and see by oneself what a dump Thai tourists made of them, cause by far the largest number of tourists there are Thai... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StayinThailand2much Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, lovelomsak said: Thai's do not understand garbage they understand drop things on the ground and let nature take its course. Which as we all can see does not work in these times with plastic and such The only 'clean' places in Thailand I've seen, are the ones with a Muslim majority in the deep South, e.g. Yala. All other Thais are pigs, with no conscience for cleanliness. Even Laos and Myanmar, not to mention Malaysia, are much cleaner! Edited July 12, 2018 by StayinThailand2much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketDog Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, DavidAlexander said: Charge $25 for a visa. This would raise $1 billion..use it to clean up things and improve the environment. A reasonable idea at first blush. But that seems to be the universal answer these days to all of society's problems. Impose more fees, create a bureau to manage it, hire more government flunkies to man it, collect the money, produce a few TV public service announcements, pocket the money, and then ignore the fact that the problem hasn't been solved. As many others have pointed out, the tourists are minor players in this drama.. The Thai population must decide that they don't want their countryside to be a smoldering pile of garbage. Apparently they don't care. All solutions must start and end with the majority of the people in any country for any problem. Governments have never been good at solving problems but have a superlative record of creating them. My own home government for instance is creating problems not only for its citizens but for people all over the world. Might makes right is our national slogan. Our new 'Cheeto in Chief' is exuberantly extending these policies to the detriment of all peoples everywhere and too many other governments follow like puppies (puppets?). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 To those on tv.com who are always saying tourism is decreasing in Thailand: Note that Thailand is having a record-breaking number of tourists this year, and even more predicted next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, RocketDog said: Our new 'Cheeto in Chief' is exuberantly extending these policies to the detriment of all peoples everywhere and too many other governments follow like puppies (puppets?). Cheeto in chief = the Golden Golem of Greatness Puppies = vassals The Golden Golem of Greatness, who is also a "Don" as in the mafioso sense, as well as in his first name, despises weakness and enjoys brushing his shoe soles on these weaklings who pretend to lead sovereign states! Having said that, everything you say is right. The problem is that, in order to deal with a problem, one first needs to realize that the problem exists! It seems that we are still far from that in Thailand when it comes to garbage disposal. Edited July 12, 2018 by Brunolem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ancharee Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 For sure as regards throwing rubbish away this is mostly caused by the thais, I have lived in many big cities in Thailand and the last 7 years in a small village all the locals just throw there rubbish away wherever they feel like it, in the town 2k away they have rubbish bins but to have them in the village each house has to pay 35b a month, needless to say they prefer to throw there rubbish anywhere as it's free 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargeezr Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 Oh the woes of too much success, and two new tourist attractions to boot. The cave near Mai Sai, and the new judges houses at the base of Doi Suthep. Oh Dear! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shy coconut Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Brunolem said: Not exactly... The Chinese intermarried...between Chinese families, then changed their names to make them sound Thai. Then they created almost all the businesses, especially the big ones, and kept the local population in total ignorance with the help of what is probably the worst school system in the world. Finally, the Thais didn't close the barn after the horse had bolted, but after the Chinese Trojan horse had been invited in! when did this cunning plan take place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panda13 Posted July 12, 2018 Share Posted July 12, 2018 12 hours ago, DoctorG said: An onslaught of Tourists? Is that a collective like - A murder of crows? The autopsy said they were stoned....must have been middle eastern crows...First offence. (Apologies to Monty Python) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad mick Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 22 hours ago, mok199 said: NO...The Onslaught of ''Budget Tourists'',lawless disrespectful thais and Poorly run ,corrupt tour groups is stressing out Thailand..but we can always go to the new mall agree in parts what you are saying ? unfortunately u left out majority of thais who use the entire country as a rubbish tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sydebolle Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Needless to say that this "quality" tourism is something nobody wants - apparently except Thailand. Apart from ransacking simply anything and everything, the lovely brethren from the North are not leaving any marks behind and the money "earned" is going where? Less can be more and in this case less HAS to be more. I remember the quality tourism Thailand could attract 30 years ago in connection with its "Amazing Thailand" campaign. It remains amazing to this day, but rather to how stupid, ignorant and selfish this industry is operated and it will be the future generation(s) to clean up the mess left behind by those quality tourists. Latter's contribution though is outweighed by the locals; go and have a look at a beach used by Thais only, i.e. Bang Saen springing to mind? It looks like Verdun after WW1 and Phu Khradueng, Doi Inthanon and other excursions places, mostly frequented by Thais, are a disgrace to civilization, as far as I am concerned. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) I have the answer! The billionaires and the 1%ers get unfettered access to all natural reserves anywhere in the world including Thailand. This includes being able to 'cull' a few trophies of endangered species while there at it. To do this, most of the lands outside of the cities will be Off Limits to the unwashed masses who instead will have cheap access to Internet and communication services so they can view what the elite can see without disturbing the ecosystem. The Nature Channel channels 1 thought 100 will be streamed world-wide. The hoi polloi must stay in the small confines of their residential cities and be equipped with GPS monitoring to make sure they stay put. No more cars, motorcycles, or anything but electric public transits will be allowed within the Pheberia where the masses must live. Tourist who meet strict financial guidelines and their indentured help needed to serve them will be the only humans allowed into "Wunder Land" along with a cadre of distinguished scientists and government officials (who are all equal to you and I, but just a little more equal). Edited July 13, 2018 by connda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Well they, the Chinese are certainly ruining Chiang Mai. Just the sheer numbers increase the vans and to mention tour buses with all the Chinese is way out of control polluting and creating havoc cramping the streets. Early morning to later night. Buses should be outlawed in the city. Just can't take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavCurtis Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 Typical Thai perspectives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brunolem Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 9 hours ago, shy coconut said: when did this cunning plan take place? Probably not a plan, just an event leading to the next, and so on. Many Chinese emigrated to Thailand after WWII, started businesses that were beyond the locals' capabilities, then step by step established their influence without really facing any opposition. Going in any city, even the small ones, one can see that the most successful businesses (and by extension money and power) are run by Thai-Chinese... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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