VIDEO: British cave explorer Vern Unsworth considers legal action against Elon Musk

[JLCrab]

1 minute ago, Slip said:

so what?  The point that you keep ignoring is that Musk defamed someone while Unsworth didn't. 

OK let him sue. Next?

[Basil B]

2 minutes ago, Thian said:

I see, well maybe his sub can fit in that hole, maybe not....i bet he can build a sub with a jackhammer at the front as well to make that hole bigger.

A TBM (Tunnel Boring Machine) would do the job better...

[holy cow cm]

He was out of line. Even with the sub

[Thian]

1 hour ago, retsdon said:

It's like a coursebook example of how to dig yourself into a hole. Not just over his spat with Vern, but before that with his cheap jibes at Narongsak, Elon Musk has proven himself to be egotistical to the point of rank stupidity. If he'd just said from the beginning that he'd done his best to help; that he understood perfectly why, under the circumstances, the Thai authorities had gone with the diver-assisted option;  that he hoped anyway that in the future his escape pod might prove useful; that he was grateful for being given the chance to have a try, etc, etc, blah, blah,-   then he'd have got all the publicity he wanted and come away smelling of roses. Instead, because his submarine wasn't chosen to do the job at the time, he had to start in with the insults and snide remarks .

 

But if he'd only just been civil, old Vern almost certainly wouldn't have told him where  to stick his submarine, and he (Musk) wouldn't have finished up in a damaging media war that has all downside and no upside for someone in his position. And now he's likely looking at a court case. Vern Unsworth is probably not a rich man, but for a chance to shakedown Elon Musk there'll be lawyers queuing up to take this all the way on a no win no fee basis.

 

For a man who's supposedly so very clever Elon Musk has demonstrated a remarkable lack of common sense. 

They published that the hole was small so divers had to take off their bottles...but his sub was about same size as a farang diver is wide...so i still don't know if the sub would fit or not, the info given was not very clear.

 

There were so many rescueoptions available at the moment that they first went for the divers...if that wouldn't work the sub or big waterpumps would be used i guess. It was good to have that around as a 2nd option.

 

I don't see the need for all this aftertalk....be happy that it's all over now.

Edited July 16, 2018 by Thian

[Slip]

5 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

OK let him sue. Next?

Musk coughs up.  Job done.  Law suits are unlikely to be necessary.

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, Brunolem said:

Or to close Twitter altogether...

Well I never use it... 

 

I think it is aptly named as a "Twit" in English means a silly or foolish person.

[Basil B]

11 minutes ago, Thian said:

They published that the hole was small so divers had to take off their bottles...but his sub was about same size as a farang diver is wide...so i still don't know if the sub would fit or not, the info given was not very clear.

I think also the issue may have been the length as there were tight bends vertical as well as horizontal to negotiate, who was the bloody fool who allowed him in the caves in the first place , I was thinking during the rescue he must have just been a nuisance and getting in the way and now seems I was right.

Edited July 16, 2018 by Basil B

[JLCrab]

11 minutes ago, Slip said:

Musk coughs up.  Job done.  Law suits are unlikely to be necessary.

Maybe but by giving an interview on CNN Mr. Unsworth may be considered a limited public figure which under libel law precedent in US makes it much harder to sue.

 

 

[Spidey]

19 minutes ago, Basil B said:

So we can all sue him?

 

He is/was the 53rd richest person in the world...

I'm sure that a class action would prevail, particularly if taken here in Thailand but, as you rightly pointed out, the trick would be to get him over here first.

[FracturedRabbit]

3 hours ago, JLCrab said:

That's your opinion. Why did Mr. Unsworth feel the need to go on CNN and make any derogatory comments about Mr. Musk. I think Mr. Musk';s lawyers would have a field-day if Mr. Unsworth ever brought civil charges.

I very much doubt he "felt the need to go on CNN". He wasn't in a studio, looked like someone stuck a mike in his face, and asked him for his opinion, which he gave. None of the British divers have arranged interviews or courted publicity; but they couldn't completely avoid being ambushed  by journalists.

[balo]

I want to sue Musk myself , I live in Thailand and now my friends back home call me a pedo.   Look what you did you stupid idiot! 

 I am not very demanding , just $1 mill will do .   

 

 

[jenny2017]

6 hours ago, from the home of CC said:

This is what happens when a man's ego runs amok. At the bare minimum Musk should be issuing an apology. 

And the other guy should apologize for saying things that weren't cool.

 

  Musk can pay for the best lawyers, private investigators, etc.. and the pedo thingy would easily be changed into something else. But the stick it where the sun doesn't shine could make Vern look pretty bad.

 

  When do people understand that money is the law on this planet? 

 

   The guy flew to a rescue operation with his submarine and maybe had the intention to help. But calling it a PR gag doesn't show much brain.

 

  Sueing a billionaire is not a wise move. They would find something about Vern and make him look bad. And Musk wouldn't just sit there and wait. 

 

  

Edited July 16, 2018 by jenny2017

[jenny2017]

25 minutes ago, balo said:

I want to sue Musk myself , I live in Thailand and now my friends back home call me a pedo.   Look what you did you stupid idiot! 

 I am not very demanding , just $1 mill will do .   

 

 

Let's make that to a bigger case. Now we're already two and $ 2 million will make us quiet. Anybody else? 

[Scott]

Inflammatory posts and replies removed.  

 

[Julie H]

Vern Unsworth trying to extend his 15 min of fame. 

[AYJAYDEE]

1 hour ago, JLCrab said:

OK let him sue. Next?

next? the this thread is about a lawsuit.

[swanny321]

8 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

Not sure I could just forget what musk called him. 

 

 If he doesn't sue, he may appear to have something to hide.

 

Time to choose a battalion of no win no fee American lawyers!

[tingtongtourist]

45 minutes ago, balo said:

I want to sue Musk myself , I live in Thailand and now my friends back home call me a pedo.   Look what you did you stupid idiot! 

 I am not very demanding , just $1 mill will do .   

 

 

i know you joke here but if actually think about it seriously its no joke.

 

Some guy back home infer (insinuate?) you are a pedo just because your in Thailand.

And if others or woman or police or some do-gooder nearby hears?

Of course most time this kind of spineless redneck idiot will try to backpedal and say  "joking joking" but then they have put the seed of doubt/suggestion about you into others.

 

is a despicable thing to accuse and i hope this pxxxk Musk gets really fried for this.

 

can YOU imagine being called this because you white and live in Thailand...

Then:

a. if you get angry they say it must be true because you defend it so hard.

b. you say, do nothing, they say you obviously guilty and ashamed to even defend yourself.

 

either is a Sxxt spot to be in and this really is the same thing Musk has said in front of the world about all us living here.

 

so i say stick it up him where it hurts Vern.

 

I hope someone starts some FB or some media to support Vern and bury this axxxxxxx Musk

[swanny321]

1 hour ago, JLCrab said:

Maybe but by giving an interview on CNN Mr. Unsworth may be considered a limited public figure which under libel law precedent in US makes it much harder to sue.

 

 

  Then freeze his UK assets and and sue him there

[swanny321]

5 hours ago, steve73 said:

If Elon's orifices are as big as his ego, I doubt it would hurt him anyway or anywhere...

 

  I've heard it said that at least one of his cavities is unusually large.

[TumblinDice]

Here we go.

Vern looking to extend his 15 minutes of bragging rights.

Hope you can afford the high cost of a team of lawyers.

[swanny321]

4 hours ago, Sheryl said:

If you are a white man living in Thailand, he basically did....

 

  You'd think these folks would know the difference between propulsion and projection etc etc.

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, TumblinDice said:

Here we go.

Vern looking to extend his 15 minutes of bragging rights.

Hope you can afford the high cost of a team of lawyers.

I think EM extracted more than 15 mins with his cheap PR stunt...

 

In using the word "cheap" I did not mean low in price but actually meant "of little worth because achieved in a discreditable way requiring little effort"

 

[bendejo]

11 hours ago, CelticBhoy said:

How is this "piece" going to fit into the movie then?  ?

Musk will be the idiot to offer comic relief from the tension of the ordeal.

 

 

[bendejo]

10 hours ago, Eligius said:

Right, Bluespunk. For a man to be called a paedophile is just about the nastiest slur that could be cast on a man's character. It's not like saying something such as: 'Oh, that diver is a silly idiot'.

Calling him a paedophile constitutes a horrendous criminal charge.

 

Absolutely.  It's one of those things that when denied it just makes it worse:  "I'm not a pedophile!" people will nod their heads and say "uh-huh." 

In the 1972 US presidential campaign Richard Nixon's infamous Dirty Tricks Dept. did this to someone who was considered a serious contender, the incident is best known for the fact that the fellow wept in front of the cameras when he learned of the slander.  A little ironic, from the present perspective, that candidate was named Muskie.

 

It looks like Musk is offering serious competition to you-know-who for the title of World's Most Insecure Billionaire.  But where would this world be at this point in time without Twitter?

 

 

[bendejo]

12 hours ago, webfact said:

“stick the submarine where it hurts”

 

Perhaps he meant EM's wallet?  

 

 

[Damrongsak]

12 hours ago, KiwiKiwi said:

... Everyone knows who and what Elon Musk is. The man's a space cadet.

Seems a bit creepy to me. 

[Damrongsak]

Ban Musk from California for not being politically correct. He's brilliant, but ...

[JLCrab]

4 hours ago, AYJAYDEE said:

next? the this thread is about a lawsuit.

No this tread is about somebody 'considering;' a lawsuit.

[AYJAYDEE]

2 minutes ago, JLCrab said:

No this tread is about somebody 'considering;' a lawsuit.

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