Johnniey Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Hummin said: Native Americans is still waiting for the immigrants to go home! Who would give their casinos money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: He never would have approved it then if he had actually understood what he was doing. I wonder how often he thinks ahead rather than "shooting from the hip"? The POTUS keeps referring to where are those 33,000 emails? Has anyone told him they're available to read on Wikileaks.com? So many of them are queries about arranging a phone call to someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 22 minutes ago, Johnniey said: What amazes me is how unpatriotic the USA people are to their elected president. So much for democracy. Perhaps that's because he's now finally shown himself to not really be a U.S. president. But rather, a stooge for Russia who was elected in part because of a massive Russian election tampering effort to discredit his opponent. Any true American and believer in U.S. democracy would be sickened and disgusted by what Trump has done. He's a traitor to his own country and people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpoint Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, Johnniey said: Who would give their casinos money? Why would they need casinos if they got their countries back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnniey Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Perhaps that's because he's now finally shown himself to not really be a U.S. president. But rather, a stooge for Russia who was elected in part because of a massive Russian election tampering effort to discredit his opponent. Any true American and believer in U.S. democracy would be sickened and disgusted by what Trump has done. He's a traitor to his own country and people. How blinkered/brainwashed can you be? What news channel do you watch? just wait, he'll be elected for another term and go down in history as one of the best presidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hummin Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, Johnniey said: Who would give their casinos money? Who really need casinos, when you have land and are free? Casinos is just distraction from what life is and about. It is sugar, cocain or what ever your fix is. Anyway, we humans is very easy distracted from whats important, and whats true, and Trump represent everything about that! Just to get back on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 hours ago, Jingthing said: Just for a chuckle, it would be interesting to hear from any "trump" fans on how they are going to defend the traitor president. Oh, my 401k is up so I don't care! But Hillary! Is there anything the orange con man can do that would shake some sense into his fans? So far, no. IMO, Trump was foolish for willingly giving his enemies ammunition to beat him with. He should have known better. IMO the over reaction is all just <deleted> and wind, but it's just going to make it harder to keep a majority in November. He'd have been better off waiting till after the elections. Perhaps he believed the positive press from NoKo summit would carry over. Whatever, he didn't help himself. Perhaps he should not stand in 2020 and let the opposition deal with Pence as president, 555555555555555. What he should have done was whisper to Putin to wait till the midterms were over and he'd have more flexibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnniey said: I'm not a Trump supporter, not even a Yank(sorry not sure if there is correct term for people from the USA). 3 minutes ago, Johnniey said: How blinkered/brainwashed can you be? What news channel do you watch? just wait, he'll be elected for another term and go down in history as one of the best presidents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Perhaps that's because he's now finally shown himself to not really be a U.S. president. But rather, a stooge for Russia who was elected in part because of a massive Russian election tampering effort to discredit his opponent. Any true American and believer in U.S. democracy would be sickened and disgusted by what Trump has done. He's a traitor to his own country and people. Rod Rosenstein disagrees with you. He just went on record as saying the Russians had no effect on the outcome of the election. Rosenstein is no friend of Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 12 minutes ago, watcharacters said: I wonder how often he thinks ahead rather than "shooting from the hip"? The POTUS keeps referring to where are those 33,000 emails? Has anyone told him they're available to read on Wikileaks.com? So many of them are queries about arranging a phone call to someone. Different e mails. Trump is referring to the e mails that were illegally deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Eric Loh said: 3 hours ago, Johnniey said: A friendly warning, with an unfriendly reply. Didn't trump just get rid of 60 Russian guys? Hasn't he imposed trade sanctions on Russia? The sanctions were imposed in 2014 over the invasion of Crimea. Never knew he was President then. Please don't confuse Johnniey. He's busy trying to get the dander up of any American, Yank, or North American he can. Silly goose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 If You believe Russia in no doubt influenced the election, then most likely they will do the same and Trump will win next election again for sure. Or will Russia be scolded enough they will behave and not interfere ? But I'm thinking the voting public will have there day. Who are the likely candidates going up against Trump? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibeachlovers Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, stud858 said: If You believe Russia in no doubt influenced the election, then most likely they will do the same and Trump will win next election again for sure. Or will Russia be scolded enough they will behave and not interfere ? But I'm thinking the voting public will have there day. Who are the likely candidates going up against Trump? Who are the likely candidates going up against Trump? Please, please, please let it be Clinton! However, Pelosi, Warner, or the "impeach 45" congresswoman would all be excellent candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 7 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Rod Rosenstein disagrees with you. He just went on record as saying the Russians had no effect on the outcome of the election. Rosenstein is no friend of Trump. You got some evidence to back this claim up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Different e mails. Trump is referring to the e mails that were illegally deleted. Please disprove this: https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/ Hillary Clinton Email Archive On March 16, 2016 WikiLeaks launched a searchable archive for over 30 thousand emails & email attachments sent to and from Hillary Clinton's private email server while she was Secretary of State. The 50,547 pages of documents span from 30 June 2010 to 12 August 2014. 7,570 of the documents were sent by Hillary Clinton. The emails were made available in the form of thousands of PDFs by the US State Department as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request. More PDFs were made available on February 29, 2016, and a set of additional 995 emails was imported up to February 2, 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 This sums it up for you...….. Trump.docx I have watched US-Soviet/#Russia presidential press conferences for more than 30 years, sometimes in the room. Have never seen anything as bad or embarrassing as @realDonaldTrump's just-concluded performance. Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia William J. Burns doesn't mince his words on the Trump/Putin summit: "I think that press conference was the single most embarrassing performance by an American president on the world stage that I've ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lannarebirth Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 25 minutes ago, Hummin said: Native Americans is still waiting for the immigrants to go home! Anyone born in America is a native American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said: Rod Rosenstein disagrees with you. He just went on record as saying the Russians had no effect on the outcome of the election. Rosenstein is no friend of Trump. No one can "prove" to what extent the Russian hacking and disinformation had on the election outcome, because how do you prove what causes millions of voters to decide on one candidate or another. So Rosenstein as a Justice Department figure can't publicly allege it. He can allege all the factual things they have alleged -- conspiracy, computer hacking, election interference, identity theft, data theft, etc. But anyone who watched the campaign play out, saw how the Russia-fed Wikileaks releases and fake and distorted social media campaigns against Clinton swelled and influenced public opinion would have to believe the Russian efforts played some role in changing the minds of some share of the voters in that election. I have no doubt it played a role, along with Comey's pre-election public announcements. Rosenstein also said the recent indictments didn't name any Americans. But that doesn't mean that ones naming Americans aren't coming down the pike soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, BuaBS said: Whoa , 11 pages of butt hurt anti-Trumpers spewing their veil comments and over the top reactions . A feed frenzy of sharks. Right, it's just those butt hurt anti-Trumpers who are condemning him: Fox Hosts Offer Rare Criticism Of Trump After Russian Summit Even Brian Kilmeade called the president’s remarks “ridiculous.” Neil Cavuto of Fox Business called the performance “disgusting.” “Fox & Friends” co-host Abby Huntsman ― daughter of Jon Huntsman, the U.S. ambassador to Russia ― was not so forgiving, suggesting that Trump had thrown America under the bus: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-hosts-trump-russia-summit_us_5b4caff7e4b0e7c958fd9834 Conservative commentator Ben Shapiro called Trump’s performance “self-serving and utterly grotesque,” before declaring Trump “made a fool of himself.” The BBC’s headline simply stated, “Trump sides with Russia against FBI.” http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/07/16/media-slams-trump-following-putin-summit-one-most-disgraceful-performances-by-american-president.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
watcharacters Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, bristolboy said: You got some evidence to back this claim up? Many posters on TVF prefer not to have evidence. Their claim stands by itself it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 Just now, watcharacters said: Many posters on TVF prefer not to have evidence. Their claim stands by itself it seems. Some more than others. One more than just about everyone else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, xylophone said: This sums it up for you...….. Trump.docx I have watched US-Soviet/#Russia presidential press conferences for more than 30 years, sometimes in the room. Have never seen anything as bad or embarrassing as @realDonaldTrump's just-concluded performance. Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia William J. Burns doesn't mince his words on the Trump/Putin summit: "I think that press conference was the single most embarrassing performance by an American president on the world stage that I've ever seen. Who are the first two paragraphs of comment in your post coming from? Burns or someone else? The 2nd pgh at least seems to be yesterday's comments from former CIA Director John Brennan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclag Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 4 hours ago, BobBKK said: No it's not. Russia, USA and others constantly do this. It is using a minor issue, which had NO effect on the election, as a political tool for 2020. You hit the hammer on the nail,well said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 5 minutes ago, bristolboy said: Right, it's just those butt hurt anti-Trumpers who are condemning him: Fox Hosts Offer Rare Criticism Of Trump After Russian Summit Even Brian Kilmeade called the president’s remarks “ridiculous.” Neil Cavuto of Fox Business called the performance “disgusting.” “Fox & Friends” co-host Abby Huntsman ― daughter of Jon Huntsman, the U.S. ambassador to Russia ― was not so forgiving, suggesting that Trump had thrown America under the bus: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/fox-hosts-trump-russia-summit_us_5b4caff7e4b0e7c958fd9834 Conservative commentator Ben Shapiro called Trump’s performance “self-serving and utterly grotesque,” before declaring Trump “made a fool of himself.” The BBC’s headline simply stated, “Trump sides with Russia against FBI.” http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2018/07/16/media-slams-trump-following-putin-summit-one-most-disgraceful-performances-by-american-president.html So there actually is some limit as to just how far their head in the sand partisanship can go??? I actually thought they had no bottom depths limit as to how far they could/would sink on behalf of Trump. So, I guess I should be heartened that they do seem to have some limit. Sad to say, I'm not sure the Trump Republicans in the House of Representatives will share those traits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroveHillWanderer Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Johnniey said: What amazes me is how unpatriotic the USA people are to their elected president. So much for democracy. You obviously have no idea what the concepts of patriotism or democracy actually entail. Patriotism is loyalty to one's country, not to any individual. When a person, even the president is acting against the interests of the country and constantly denigrating the country it is entirely patriotic to oppose that person and support your country instead. Democracy means accepting and respecting the democratic process whereby someone was elected but it does not imply or require blind loyalty to whoever happens to have been elected - especially when that person is showing no respect for the democratic process, by ignoring and denying the threats it is facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, riclag said: You hit the hammer on the nail,well said Are you back on your "Trump really is hard on Russia" but doesn't want to publicly show it loonyness??? Even after yesterday? Amazing!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stud858 Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 13 minutes ago, lannarebirth said: Anyone born in America is a native American. I thought it meant all the ancestory must have been born there too. I'm native to the planet earth. I know that much for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xylophone Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Who are the first two paragraphs of comment in your post coming from? Burns or someone else? Former U.S. Ambassador to Russia William J. Burns, but from the NZ Herald newspaper...……….sorry about that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
attrayant Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, riclag said: Quote No it's not. Russia, USA and others constantly do this. It is using a minor issue, which had NO effect on the election, as a political tool for 2020. You hit the hammer on the nail,well said People keep saying this and I just can't believe it. A treasonous act is acceptable so long as everybody's doing it? And criminal acts get a free pass if they don't actually succeed? Is that what you're saying? Because it sure sounds like that's what you're saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolboy Posted July 17, 2018 Share Posted July 17, 2018 1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: Are you back on your "Trump really is hard on Russia" but doesn't want to publicly show it loonyness??? Even after yesterday? Amazing!!!! Don't you get it? The more Trump seems to be siding with Putin, the more he is actually fighting him. And we know this because how could it be otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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