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At least 10, including a child, shot in Toronto - Canadian media

By Brendan O'Brien

 

People leave an area taped off by the police near the scene of a mass shooting in Toronto, Canada, July 22, 2018. REUTERS/Chris Helgren

 

(Reuters) - At least 10 people, including a child, were shot in Toronto on Sunday and the gunman was dead, Canadian news agencies reported.

 

Reports of gunfire in the city's Greektown neighbourhood began at 10 p.m. local time (0200 GMT Monday), CityNews.com reported.

 

Witnesses said they heard 25 gunshots, the news website reported.

 

The shooter was dead, CTVNews.com reported. There were no immediate reports on the extent of wounds suffered by those who were shot by the attacker.

 

(Reporting by Brendan O'Brien in Milwaukee; Editing by Paul Tait)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-07-23

[barefootbangkok]

Sadly these mass shootings are becoming more and more commonplace.  May the victims rest in peace and the shooter burn in hell.

[balo]

Not so common in Canada , more common in the US where the gun laws are very different. 

 

[Colabamumbai]

Spate of killings in Toronto this summer, hot weather brings the guns out.

[webfact]

Gunman dead after shooting 14, killing one, in Toronto - Canadian police

 

TORONTO (Reuters) - Fourteen people, including a young girl, were shot near downtown Toronto, police in Canada's biggest city said on Sunday, with one person killed and the gunman also dead.

 

The young girl was in a critical condition, Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders said.

 

"We are looking at all possible motives... and not closing any doors," Saunders told reporters at the site of the shooting.

 

Paramedics, firefighters and police converged on the shooting in Toronto's east end, which has many popular restaurants, cafes and shops.

 

Police said the gunman had used a handgun. Earlier reports said nine people had been shot.

 

Reports of gunfire in the city's Greektown neighbourhood began at 10 p.m. local time (0200 GMT Monday), CityNews.com said.

 

Witnesses said they heard 25 gunshots, the news website reported.

 

Toronto is grappling with a sharp rise in gun violence this year. Deaths from gun violence in the city jumped 53 percent to 26 so far in 2018 from the same period last year, police data last week showed, with the number of shootings rising 13 percent.

 

Toronto deployed about 200 police officers from July 20 in response to the recent spate in shootings, which city officials have blamed on gang violence.

 

Toronto Mayor John Tory told reporters that the city has a gun problem and guns were too readily available to too many people.

 

(Reporting by Denny Thomas and Brendan O'Brien in Milwaukee; Editing by Paul Tait)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-07-23

[balo]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

Toronto Mayor John Tory told reporters that the city has a gun problem and guns were too readily available to too many people.

At least he is facing the problem , unlike any US Mayor would dare to do in the land of the Wild West. 
 

[pegman]

3 hours ago, balo said:

At least he is facing the problem , unlike any US Mayor would dare to do in the land of the Wild West. 
 

The hand guns like that used in this case usually come in illegally from the USA. Canada may need to build a wall and make Trump pay for it.

[Curmudgeon1]

9 hours ago, balo said:

At least he is facing the problem , unlike any US Mayor would dare to do in the land of the Wild West. 
 

The guns are one symptom, not the problem. Many other factors far more relative. imo

[webfact]

Toronto gunman identified, police seek motive after suspect kills two, injures 13

By Anna Mehler Paperny and Danya Hajjaji

 

Police officers enter a coffee shop damaged by gunfire while investigating a mass shooting on Danforth Avenue in Toronto, Canada, July 23, 2018. REUTERS/Chris Helgren

 

TORONTO (Reuters) - The man accused of shooting 15 people and killing two on a busy, restaurant-filled Toronto street struggled with severe mental illness, his family said in a statement late on Monday as police sought a motive in the shooting spree.

 

Less than a day after two young women, ages 10 and 18, were killed and 13 other people were wounded by a gunman, the suspect was identified by the independent Special Investigations Unit (SIU) as Faisal Hussain, a 29-year-old Toronto resident. He was found dead shortly after the shooting, authorities said.

 

"We do not know why this happened," Toronto Police Chief Mark Saunders told reporters on Monday, adding that he would not speculate about the gunman's motive. "It's way too early to rule out anything."

 

The suspect, armed with a handgun, opened fire at 10 p.m. EDT on Sunday (0200 GMT Monday) on a stretch of Danforth Avenue filled with restaurants and family-friendly attractions in the city's Greektown neighbourhood, the SIU said.

 

"We are utterly devastated by the incomprehensible news that our son was responsible for the senseless violence and loss of life," Hussain's family wrote in a statement, adding that he suffered from severe mental illness as well as from "psychosis and depression his entire life."

 

"While we did our best to seek help for him throughout his life of struggle and pain, we could never imagine that this would be his devastating and destructive end," the statement said.

 

Police did not identify the two young women killed in the shooting spree. A local politician Nathaniel Erskine-Smith confirmed the 18-year-old victim was Reese Fallon, a recent high school graduate who planned to study nursing.

 

"The family is devastated," Erskine-Smith said in a statement, adding that they have asked for privacy while they mourn a young woman who was "smart, passionate and full of energy."

 

The gunman exchanged fire with police, fled and was later found dead, according to the SIU, which investigates deaths and injuries involving police.

 

The suspect had a gunshot wound, authorities said, but would not elaborate on the circumstances or cause of his death. An autopsy on the suspect will be conducted on Tuesday, SIU spokeswoman Monica Hudon said.

 

Hours after the fatal shooting, in an apparently unrelated incident, a man with a knife was arrested during a military ceremony on Parliament Hill in Canada's capital, Ottawa. The Defense Ministry said no one was injured and gave no further details.

 

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau wrote on Twitter on Monday: "The people of Toronto are strong, resilient and brave - and we’ll be there to support you through this difficult time."

 

Toronto Mayor John Tory told reporters the city has a gun problem, with weapons too readily available to too many people.

 

"Why does anyone in this city need to have a gun at all?" he asked in an address to city councillors early on Monday.

 

Bill Blair, Canada's newly appointed minister of border security and organised crime who has been given the job of tackling gun violence, met with Tory on Monday afternoon.

 

To own a gun in Canada an individual must apply for a licence, pass a background check and pass a firearm safety test. Guns must be kept locked and unloaded and can only be legally carried outside the home with a special permit. Handguns and other restricted firearms require passing an additional course.

 

Canada's crime rate rose by 1 percent in 2017, the third consecutive annual increase, according to Statistics Canada. The murder rate jumped by 7 percent, due largely to killings in British Columbia and Quebec, while crime involving guns grew by 7 percent.

 

Toronto is grappling with a sharp rise in gun violence as gun deaths jumped to 26, up 53 percent so far this year from the same period in 2017. The number of shootings has risen 13 percent.

 

Toronto has deployed about 200 police officers since July 20 in response to the recent spate in shootings, which city officials have blamed on gang violence.

 

Saunders said the police presence would be increased in the Danforth area following the shooting.

 

In April, a driver deliberately ploughed his white Ryder rental van into a lunch-hour crowd in Toronto, police said, killing 10 people and injuring 15 along a roughly mile-long (1.6-km) stretch of sidewalk thronged with pedestrians.

 

(Reporting by Anna Mehler Paperny and Danya Hajjaji in Toronto; additional reporting by Denny Thomas in Toronto and David Ljunggren in Ottawa; editing by Paul Tait, Jeffrey Benkoe and Jonathan Oatis)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-07-24

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[pegman]

Seems a run of the mill nut somehow got hold of a handgun. He may have been targeting females like the van driver in Toronto last April. 

[canuckamuck]

Interesting phrase, 'run of the mill nut'. Is that your attempt to blend the shooter into a, it could have been anyone narrative?  Trying to do an preemptive on the Muslim angle perhaps to soothe your progressive angst.

I would say he was not a run of the mill nut, but a rare and dangerous nut. Now whether or not his mania was fueled by religion, or culture, or just voices in his head is hard to know without any extra facts.

His name does begin to nudge some preconceptions though eh?.

[pegman]

28 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Interesting phrase, 'run of the mill nut'. Is that your attempt to blend the shooter into a, it could have been anyone narrative?  Trying to do an preemptive on the Muslim angle perhaps to soothe your progressive angst.

I would say he was not a run of the mill nut, but a rare and dangerous nut. Now whether or not his mania was fueled by religion, or culture, or just voices in his head is hard to know without any extra facts.

His name does begin to nudge some preconceptions though eh?.

No doubt for some run of the mill racist types.

[canuckamuck]

31 minutes ago, pegman said:

No doubt for some run of the mill racist types.

You can live in denial all you want, but I expect that when you saw the story and heard the name you thought what everybody thought, but then corrected yourself and did a bit of virtue signalling.

I have decided to wait for more information to make my decision, but this is walking and talking like a duck so it's probably a duck.  Could be wrong of course. This is what people with a grasp on reality do.

[Stargeezr]

A middle eastern name on the shooter, could be a religious reason for the shooting.  The idea that this guy had mental issues, and the people who knew about it did not bother to tell the police, is unacceptable. This whole event did not have to happen.

[allane]

Apparently , Canadian born, to parents from Pakistan.

[Baerboxer]

4 hours ago, pegman said:

No doubt for some run of the mill racist types.

 

Faisal Hussain - does tend to suggest a non North American ethnicity. 

 

Now, were all his innocent victims racially diverse, or was he only targeting people of specific racial types?

 

That might help indicate if he was a nut case or if he was motivated by some thoughts he considered rational and justified.

 

I doubt any media in Canada will comment.

[blazes]

Weird. I was sure the shooter was going to be Meyer Horowitz, who owns a kosher butcher shop on Danforth.  Go figure.

 

 

[balo]

Another muslim going berserk in the western world. 

 

I feel safer in Thailand , believe it or not, even if we've had a couple of incidents in the past .

 

 

[sirineou]

 I don't know what the motive was but,

Muslims have as much mental disease as anyone else, as many psychological problems , social pressures etc. Not everything that happens in the muslim world happens as a result of terrorism.

[geriatrickid]

On 7/23/2018 at 4:31 PM, Colabamumbai said:

Spate of killings in Toronto this summer, hot weather brings the guns out.

Is that a euphemism to describe the black community, because the vast majority of  drive by shootings and gun related murders& assaults are black community related. The local media, especially CBC refuses to  acknowledge this. It is a full blown cover up by the media and the implicated governments. The police no longer release  full description of  assailants, specifically leaving out ethnic references.

[pegman]

7 minutes ago, geriatrickid said:

Is that a euphemism to describe the black community, because the vast majority of  drive by shootings and gun related murders& assaults are black community related. The local media, especially CBC refuses to  acknowledge this. It is a full blown cover up by the media and the implicated governments. The police no longer release  full description of  assailants, specifically leaving out ethnic references.

I come from the murder capital of Canada. Most years there are zero blacks involved. Funny that, or Muslims for that matter. There is a common denominator in most murders though, but it doesn't fall in with your narrative. Most murders in Canada, like the rest of the world, happen in poor neighbourhoods. A couple generations ago it was mostly Eastern Europeans and before that the Irish committing the most murders. Happening in the same poor neighbourhoods. 

[pegman]

21 hours ago, canuckamuck said:

You can live in denial all you want, but I expect that when you saw the story and heard the name you thought what everybody thought, but then corrected yourself and did a bit of virtue signalling.

I have decided to wait for more information to make my decision, but this is walking and talking like a duck so it's probably a duck.  Could be wrong of course. This is what people with a grasp on reality do.

So what kind of duck? I was born and raised in Canada and in my country we have NEVER had a Islamist mass murder take place. Therefore it is not front of mind for rational, non-racist Canadians like myself. Most cases lately it's a nut which was my first thought this time and looks to be the case here. This one appearrently of south Asian ethnicity and the last of European. 

We do have a problem that we need to keep an eye on with right wingers targeting peacefull Muslims. 

 

• January 29, 2017 - During evening prayer at the Islamic Cultural Centre mosque in Quebec City, Quebec, one gunman entered and opened fire on Muslim worshipers killing 6 people and injuring 19 (5 critically).^[28] The gunman called police from a second location about 20 minutes after the shooting and was arrested by Quebec police without incident. The gunman, Alexandre Bissonnette from Quebec City, reportedly inspired by extreme right-wing French nationalists views, that he shared online and at Laval University.^[29][30]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_Canada

[canuckamuck]

Like I said, we don't have the info. Of course if it is an inconvenient truth, we might never get the info.

[stevenl]

28 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

Like I said, we don't have the info. Of course if it is an inconvenient truth, we might never get the info.

We don't have the info, but still you push it in your direction.

[canuckamuck]

2 minutes ago, stevenl said:

We don't have the info, but still you push it in your direction.

Yes people often discuss their suspicions when there is a mystery involved.

[stevenl]

1 minute ago, canuckamuck said:

Yes people often discuss their suspicions when there is a mystery involved.

Then stop using the argument 'we don't have the info'.

[canuckamuck]

Just now, stevenl said:

Then stop using the argument 'we don't have the info'.

That would be dumb.

[robblok]

If they can prove the psychosis and mental health issue with doctors statements the religious reason for killing is then out of the window and its just an nutcase with a gun. I bet that would make quite a few people unhappy. Its much nicer to blame it on islam.

[stevenl]

4 minutes ago, canuckamuck said:

That would be dumb.

Smarter than your present speculations without having the info.