Is 36k baht too much to pay for a new desktop

[atyclb]

to get some idea of aio (us site) thai prices should be similar.

 

https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/desktops-and-all-in-ones/ideacentre/aio-500-series/AIO-520-24-Intel/p/FFICF520277

[BigT73]

if you want w10 free, original version you can download it online.  if you want a free generic key pm me I made a self installing file.  You can download office as well not legit version.   Just not sure on legality with non certified licenses and your type of business with tax auditors back home they checked corporate businesses for pirated copies.

[phetpeter]

If you already have a PC with windows 10 you can transfer it to your new PC free, If you got it when Windows 10 was given out free. Save a fortune. Mine has been transferred to both my PC and laptop and it will do it for you, Both run Pro did so using  back up program installed

[fantom]

2 hours ago, seancbk said:

The spec looks pretty good.   Not sure why you need such a powerful graphics card, unless you are going to play games.  It also looks like you are getting a free 24" monitor?

You could save 11,000 THB by not using Windows and Office.  

Linux Mint is free and so is LibreOffice (which comes with Mint).   I've been using Mint exclusively for about 3 years and have never needed to use Windows.  I also don't have to worry about malware or viruses.
 

I agree entirely.

I also have used linux exclusively with free office software for my business for over 20 years. Latterly using linux Mint and libre Office. It works and is free and updates with ease. There are masses of free software such as scanning and photo manipulation as well.

[Moti24]

I've built my own desktop for less than 20000 Baht.  You won't need a graphics card if you get a cpu with intergrated graphics.  I use Linux Mint (Which is free), have done for a few years now.  I find that I can do more with Linux Mint than I could with Windows, and a lot quicker.  You've not been quoted for a monitor; I use a 32 inch tv, about 5/6000 Baht.  Just make sure that the mainboard, cpu and memory are compatible with each other; if you're not sure, get some advice.

[MarleyMarl]

Someone may of already said this, if it's an office PC you probably don't need the graphics card.

 

Instead you can just use the onboard and save yourself 5k.

 

The CPU + SSD is most important performance wise for an office PC, and at least 8gb ram minimum. 

[NoshowJones]

Not sure about the price, but JB computers have a great after sales service.

[snowgard]

On 8/25/2018 at 10:25 AM, robblok said:

Almost 1`/3 of th ecosts is for office and windows. You could have gotten a cheaper version of windows. 

 

But the prices don't seem to be to crazy of the parts and I would say all of the parts are good.. seems they forgot the price of the monitor.

 

I recently built a PC for myself at 3x your price.. (no monitor), the price really depends on what you get in the computer.

Windows and Office genuine license keys you can buy on ebay or Lazada between 200-600 THB.

Windows 10 Pro https://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?_keyori=ss&from=input&page=1&q=windows 10&sort=priceasc&spm=a2o4m.searchlistcategory.search.go.729b1f21C4MCBD

MS Office https://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?_keyori=ss&from=input&page=1&q=office 2016&sort=priceasc&spm=a2o4m.searchlist.search.go.169c1d3fExIctx

 

Edited August 27, 2018 by snowgard

[carken]

You should probably take a look at "Invadeit" computer sales. It is located in Hua Hin and ships all over Thailand. I have bought several things from them and always satisfied with product and service. The owner is English speaking and is really helpful with advice ... I would especially a look at the "Acer" all-in-one computers, great specs and pricing IMHO .... will also save you some Baht/money .... here is the URL/website for their all-in-one computers

 

https://www.invadeit.co.th/category/all-in-one-pcs/

[manarak]

sorry OP, but  " a reasonable build spec computer for our new business. "  is not a specification people can work with.

 

if you want to optimize costs, you need to specify the intended use of the computer and the software that it should be able to run.

 

if the box just needs to be able to do internet browsing and email, you would be ok with a 6000 baht second hand with linux slapped on and free software.

 

define "resonable build spec" and people might be able to help you save costs.

 

[atyclb]

"if the box just needs to be able to do internet browsing and email, you would be ok with a 6000 baht second hand with linux slapped on and free software."

 

 

https://www.linux.com/forums/applications/top-10-point-sale-pos-software-linux

Edited August 27, 2018 by atyclb

[gaff]

Really, people still buy desktop computers ?! Any good reason ? Maybe you enjoy the hassle of having to carry it when it has problems ? Too easy to carry a laptop, right ?!

 

 

[gaff]

20 minutes ago, carken said:

You should probably take a look at "Invadeit" computer sales. It is located in Hua Hin and ships all over Thailand. I have bought several things from them and always satisfied with product and service. The owner is English speaking and is really helpful with advice ... I would especially a look at the "Acer" all-in-one computers, great specs and pricing IMHO .... will also save you some Baht/money .... here is the URL/website for their all-in-one computers

 

https://www.invadeit.co.th/category/all-in-one-pcs/

 

Good idea ! Simply the most expensive computer show in whole country !

But maybe old men like to talk to old men ?!

 

 

[SteveK]

11 minutes ago, gaff said:

Really, people still buy desktop computers ?! Any good reason ? Maybe you enjoy the hassle of having to carry it when it has problems ? Too easy to carry a laptop, right ?!

 

 

Dumbest post ever. Lots of people need computers to have serious grunt for AutoCAD, video rendering, acoustic modelling, file conversion, statistical analysis, serious gaming, etc etc....

 

Laptops can never compete with desktops for raw compute power, but from the sounds of it, I doubt you'd ever be able to tell the difference.

Edited August 27, 2018 by pr9spk

[finnishmen]

i just vhas bkk buy new desctop pc, same cpu i5, no dvd because has old at home, same power, 750W has old pc, windows 8 better than 7 or apstabile 10, 200 B dvd  or what program you need all 100-200B my new  pc cost about 4000B only work user not game, but i have at home some gtx1050 display card if son need game pc too need only add gtx1050 and more memory ram then can play all games too,son have  too young now no need, 5555, i use autocad, aspire ,solidwork,cam softwares,etc work programs, all 200b, pc have cheap is some parts have old pc and no need game pc, normally good game pc cost abpout 30-45000b but work pc no need all this expensive components, ram memory need only 4-8gb max, displaycard not need can use motherboard own internal, have good today, dvd,power,hdd,no need or buy 1000b new 500gb hdd. no need workstation more, and can adding usb hdd if need store lot documents, dont be stupid and buy one shop all and ower prize, looking many shop and second hand parts too, pc parts not broken have new or 2-3 year old.mean dvd,power,display,hdd,caser,etc, old can use many parts and no proplem newer.i have worek statino at home 3 pc, 2 laptop, and build game later 3 pc flight simulator system, but money not go newer 40 000b i know. oh forget i have cnc machine 2 linux pc too because not need power lot only run cnc program run machine. 

 

Edited August 27, 2018 by finnishmen

[robblok]

2 hours ago, gaff said:

Really, people still buy desktop computers ?! Any good reason ? Maybe you enjoy the hassle of having to carry it when it has problems ? Too easy to carry a laptop, right ?!

 

 

Depends what you use it for, i prefer a desktop for real work and gaming. You just can't get a laptop with the same specifications as a desktop for the same amount of money. I would never buy a laptop because i prefer a good keyboard, and monitor. When you buy those things you can better buy a laptop. Sure you can connect a monitor to a laptop, but then its no longer a portable computer anymore and a desktop would be better.

 

I guess for day to day use a laptop might be ok, but not if you have to work or game behind it for a long period.

[manarak]

2 hours ago, pr9spk said:

Dumbest post ever. Lots of people need computers to have serious grunt for AutoCAD, video rendering, acoustic modelling, file conversion, statistical analysis, serious gaming, etc etc....

 

Laptops can never compete with desktops for raw compute power, but from the sounds of it, I doubt you'd ever be able to tell the difference.

 

well, I have to disagree here.

unless going into ultra high PC / workstation specs, Laptops have no problem keeping up with high spec gaming PCs.

 

3 years ago I bought a laptop from Origin, specs:

Intel Core i7 4790K (4.4 GHz), Nvidia  980 GTX 8GB (desktop chip, not 980M), 16 GB RAM, dual SSD on RAID-1 for system and 2 TB HDD.

this pretty much blew most desktops PCs away at the time.

 

if I want to do some gaming with it on a larger screen, I connect a keyboard and a monitor to it.

[gaff]

6 hours ago, finnishmen said:

i just vhas bkk buy new desctop pc, same cpu i5, no dvd because has old at home, same power, 750W has old pc, windows 8 better than 7 or apstabile 10, 200 B dvd  or what program you need all 100-200B my new  pc cost about 4000B only work user not game, but i have at home some gtx1050 display card if son need game pc too need only add gtx1050 and more memory ram then can play all games too,son have  too young now no need, 5555, i use autocad, aspire ,solidwork,cam softwares,etc work programs, all 200b, pc have cheap is some parts have old pc and no need game pc, normally good game pc cost abpout 30-45000b but work pc no need all this expensive components, ram memory need only 4-8gb max, displaycard not need can use motherboard own internal, have good today, dvd,power,hdd,no need or buy 1000b new 500gb hdd. no need workstation more, and can adding usb hdd if need store lot documents, dont be stupid and buy one shop all and ower prize, looking many shop and second hand parts too, pc parts not broken have new or 2-3 year old.mean dvd,power,display,hdd,caser,etc, old can use many parts and no proplem newer.i have worek statino at home 3 pc, 2 laptop, and build game later 3 pc flight simulator system, but money not go newer 40 000b i know. oh forget i have cnc machine 2 linux pc too because not need power lot only run cnc program run machine. 

 

 

Agree, cheap price is the only reason to buy a desktop.

Because a laptop as powerful as a desktop will be 10x more expensive at least.

 

 

[gaff]

6 hours ago, manarak said:

 

well, I have to disagree here.

unless going into ultra high PC / workstation specs, Laptops have no problem keeping up with high spec gaming PCs.

 

3 years ago I bought a laptop from Origin, specs:

Intel Core i7 4790K (4.4 GHz), Nvidia  980 GTX 8GB (desktop chip, not 980M), 16 GB RAM, dual SSD on RAID-1 for system and 2 TB HDD.

this pretty much blew most desktops PCs away at the time.

 

if I want to do some gaming with it on a larger screen, I connect a keyboard and a monitor to it.

 

Yes but cheap charlies always look for the cheapest things, so they do not buy powerful laptops, they buy crap desktops. Look at their cars, this is how they think about everything they buy.

 

 

[robblok]

2 hours ago, gaff said:

 

Yes but cheap charlies always look for the cheapest things, so they do not buy powerful laptops, they buy crap desktops. Look at their cars, this is how they think about everything they buy.

 

 

I would not call myself a cheap charlie especially when it concerns computers. I build one for myself last month that cost over a 100.000 bt. That is without the 3 monitors and special gaming keyboard (great for my work as i got a row of keys i can program for accounting).

 

It has the latest intel I7 processor, a 2TB SSD m.2, 1080 GT vga, liquid cooling, expensive casing, 32 GB ram (no normal HDD), legal windows 10, expensive mainboard. You just can't get something like that in a laptop. Laptops are for people who don't work behind it for longer periods. Because if you do you want a good monitor and a good keyboard and mouse. 

 

Sure then you can buy those and connect them to the laptop... but then you take away the only advantage of a laptop its mobility.

 

I actually have a laptop too a macbook (with windows 10) for when i travel and need to work just a bit. 

 

I would not buy a laptop if I went from place to place, but I have been living here in the same house in Thailand for 10 years, I even got a home gym here filled with stuff, a lot harder to move then a desktop.

 

Desktops just give more power for less money and are better configurable. Laptops are better for those of us who don't work behind it for extended periods of time and prefer to stay mobile.

[cucme]

19 hours ago, seancbk said:

Laptops lack the expandability of Desktops and they usually don't support dual monitor setups.

The single biggest productivity boost is having 2 identical displays to work on.   Using the laptop screen and an external display works but isn't as aesthetically pleasing as matching displays.
 

My Lenovo Legion supports multiple eternal laptops. Expandable via USB C also, whatever you want.

[wgdanson]

On 8/26/2018 at 11:46 AM, Stocky said:

What sort of business is it for? 

If just emails, word processor and spreadsheets - general admin, and you're not needing some specialist software that only runs on Windows, then ditch Windows and MS Office for Linux Mint and Libre Office. That takes 10K off the bill, as said in previous posts, you can lose the graphics card taking a further 5K off the total.

Libre Office is GREAT and FREE. Does everything Mr Gate's product will do.

[wgdanson]

9 hours ago, manarak said:

 

well, I have to disagree here.

unless going into ultra high PC / workstation specs, Laptops have no problem keeping up with high spec gaming PCs.

 

3 years ago I bought a laptop from Origin, specs:

Intel Core i7 4790K (4.4 GHz), Nvidia  980 GTX 8GB (desktop chip, not 980M), 16 GB RAM, dual SSD on RAID-1 for system and 2 TB HDD.

this pretty much blew most desktops PCs away at the time.

 

if I want to do some gaming with it on a larger screen, I connect a keyboard and a monitor to it.

Or get an Intel NUC i7

[guzzi850m2]

I am also into desktop PC's, have a office in the house next to the living room, so I sit there quite a lot, edit photos, my son does some of his homework from the school, watch a movie in 4K, invest some money and so on.

As already mentioned a desktop pc can easily be configured to your needs or upgraded & easy to work on should something happen and a major component needs changing/upgrading.

Sure laptops are useful, we currently have 2 in the household, 1 is mine and goes with me for overseas work & holidays, my son uses the old one for YouTube and stuff. 

We also have 2 tablets, they are handy for sitting out on the patio and surfing the net on.

 

I also find Libre office very good.

[atyclb]

15 hours ago, gaff said:

15 hours ago, carken said:

You should probably take a look at "Invadeit" computer sales. It is located in Hua Hin and ships all over Thailand. I have bought several things from them and always satisfied with product and service. The owner is English speaking and is really helpful with advice ... I would especially a look at the "Acer" all-in-one computers, great specs and pricing IMHO .... will also save you some Baht/money .... here is the URL/website for their all-in-one computers

 

https://www.invadeit.co.th/category/all-in-one-pcs/

 

Good idea ! Simply the most expensive computer show in whole country !

But maybe old men like to talk to old men ?!

 

 

out of curiousity i priced same model hp that is on invadeit for 16,990 . and it is same price  at https://www.jib.co.th/web/product/readProduct/30288/ALL-IN-ONE--ออลอินวัน--HP-22-C0030D

[BritManToo]

3 hours ago, guzzi850m2 said:

watch a movie in 4K, invest some money and so on.

Watching a movie in 4k isn't all that much, most cheap android boxes can do that.

[robblok]

52 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Watching a movie in 4k isn't all that much, most cheap android boxes can do that.

Depends on the screen / tv your watching it on. That a android box can do it does not mean a thing if the TV / monitor is not capable.

[atyclb]

1 hour ago, robblok said:

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Watching a movie in 4k isn't all that much, most cheap android boxes can do that.

Depends on the screen / tv your watching it on. That a android box can do it does not mean a thing if the TV / monitor is not capable.

 

 

his point was not whether or not you need a 4k (obvious) tv, but that nowadays most android boxes that usually have  less powerful cpu's then desktop computers can do it.

[robblok]

47 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

 

his point was not whether or not you need a 4k (obvious) tv, but that nowadays most android boxes that usually have  less powerful cpu's then desktop computers can do it.

My point is that you do have to invest some money.. as its not on the computers side.. but the screen itself. 

[guzzi850m2]

My 4k monitor was mainly bought for editing photos on.

 

The topic was about buying a PC for a business and an Android TV box is hardly of any use for that, 555.