oldlakey Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 4 hours ago, MaksimMislavsky said: There is. Prosecute the killer full-time and don't blame the victim publicly as it encourages future violence against "prostitutes who play their clients" by implying that the shooter was actually not so much in the wrong thus contributing to upholding the convention that his act was somewhat socially acceptable as "she was asking for it" If you want to quote me then at least quote the whole sentence my man This young woman made her choices This young woman decided against short time rentals This young woman's "MO" was to play the mark for a monthly income which necessitated a semi - permanent arrangement This young women then decided to play her marks against each other, but found it impossible to alight from this particular merry - go - round when she wanted to I will say to you again my man - It is impossible to protect prostitutes who play their marks against "EACH OTHER ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD" She alone put herself in the position of looking down the barrel of that gun, because she was involved by choice in the world of vice 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyberfarang Posted September 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, MaksimMislavsky said: This rather applies to ai Sia Lop as he tried to intimidate an independent woman of certain walk of life (which fact was known to him) into being his exclusive property. Failing with that, he resorted to gunning her down in a desperate possessive greed fuelled bid of not letting anyone else ever enjoy her company. Through his action he has caused significant harm to others and landed himself in trouble. Sorry, she wasn`t an independent woman because she had to resort to extorting money from men to support her promiscuous lifestyle. Being independent is someone that can life their life without being financially supported by other people. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 16 minutes ago, cyberfarang said: Sorry, she wasn`t an independent woman because she had to resort to extorting money from men to support her promiscuous lifestyle. Being independent is someone that can life their life without being financially supported by other people. So it's only if you inherit a large sum of money, or self-employed that makes you truly independent? Everybody else is dependent on earning wages every week. So I imagine she fell into the self-employed category. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, oldlakey said: It is impossible to protect prostitutes who play their marks against "EACH OTHER ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD" It's pretty much impossible to protect a woman against a determined, deranged stalker as well, even though they may have done nothing wrong. Edited September 6, 2018 by giddyup 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hobz Posted September 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2018 So many sick ppl posting here. Sad. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 minute ago, giddyup said: It's pretty much impossible to protect a woman against a determined, deranged stalker as well, even though they may have done nothing wrong. Try to stay on topic my good man, or is that also beyond your comprehension 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post giddyup Posted September 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, oldlakey said: Try to stay on topic my good man, or is that also beyond your comprehension Trying to follow your sanctimonious rant was a bit testing. Edited September 6, 2018 by giddyup 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetetique Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 If you are jealous, or vexed, or vain, or stupid, or drunk, but rich just kill the bitch and call the police to negotiate your freedom. She was beautiful, he is an ugly, fat, pig. I hope he will be hung by the balls, with his weight death should be prompt ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaksimMislavsky Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, oldlakey said: This young woman decided against short time rentals This young woman's "MO" was to play the mark for a monthly income which necessitated a semi - permanent arrangement Where does this knowledge come from? Her having monthly arrangement with the Dutchman tells nothing exactly about the nature of her other relationships. We can't even say for sure how much of "rental" was there if at all in each case. In fact we are getting down to a looped discussion. I've got nothing essential to add. Sorry if you find my not quoting your entire (lengthy) sentenses offensive. I'm qouting the points I'am trying to reply to, for clarity. I do take care to make sure the meaning is not altered by short quoting. Edited September 6, 2018 by MaksimMislavsky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted September 6, 2018 Share Posted September 6, 2018 1 hour ago, MaksimMislavsky said: Where does this knowledge come from? Her having monthly arrangement with the Dutchman tells nothing exactly about the nature of her other relationships. We can't even say for sure how much of "rental" was there if at all in each case. In fact we are getting down to a looped discussion. I've got nothing essential to add. Sorry if you find my not quoting your entire (lengthy) sentenses offensive. I'm qouting the points I'am trying to reply to, for clarity. I do take care to make sure the meaning is not altered by short quoting. Nothing essential to add you say, 555555555 yes I had noticed 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post cyberfarang Posted September 6, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2018 6 hours ago, giddyup said: So it's only if you inherit a large sum of money, or self-employed that makes you truly independent? Everybody else is dependent on earning wages every week. So I imagine she fell into the self-employed category. Let me make this clearer for you, as it seems that I have already said goes way above your means of understanding. Being an independent person, means looking after yourself by honest means. Being self employed or working for a living is obtaining money by giving something back, not by poncing off others, scamming and deceiving people. Coming into an inheritance or winning the lottery is by luck and has nothing to do with independence or gaining money by ill repute. There is no such thing as a free ride in this world and we strive to work hard by honest deeds, we give something and we get something back, that`s how it is. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 7:42 PM, Naamblar2014 said: Agree with some other posters that this woman was obtaining money by deception of at least 2 people. Who knows how many more ? IMHO she is committing fraud and this should be treated as any type of fraud, criminal charges laid. Not an option in this case but absolutely necessary in thefuture to stop this type of behavior. This type of deception to obtain money needs to stop. How many foreigners having lost their lifes savings as a result of these scammers, proceed to end their own lives. Why are these bar girls with multiple people sending them money not charged with fraud? How is that in any way different to the Nigerian romance scams, which are investigated, with prosecution of the scammers. How is it that one poster here thought it OK to assist these bar girls in drafting love letters in order to obtain funds from someone by lying to them? They may very well be gullible but don't deserve to be scammed. Not every person has a reason to distrust others. In fact isn't it the dishonest that think others are dishonest. As for the killer, he has been identified as a Thai. Right or wrong in his mind, his actions are likely the result of the frustration of having a corrupt system of law enforcement, where he would have no recourse, so unfortunately snapped because of a loss of face and took this unfortunate course of action. References to his looks etc should be left out. Not all relationships are based on the way someone looks believe it or not. I don't believe we can justmove on or just walkaway as you might in a broken relationship as this was straight out deception to obtain money. If you were scammed out of your home would you just walk away? It is not simply the right of the women to have as many relationships as she wishes, unless she was totally upfront with all concerned. one of the more sensible comments here so far... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 7:52 PM, Bluespunk said: Your repugnant, callous views contain no interest for me. I think we`ve got your point.... other people have theirs too.... you dont have to correct them every post.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, jeffreysearch said: Really ?? deceiving many men out of big money and lying about relationships... your a cold man ... been there have you .... without her doings .. there would be no crime that happened .... Yes, really. If the guy didn’t like her choices he should have walked. He didn't own her and had no say in her choices. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 5 minutes ago, jeffreysearch said: I think we`ve got your point.... other people have theirs too.... you dont have to correct them every post.. I will respond to posts as I choose. It’s not your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 8:24 PM, Vacuum said: Oh, ok, just because you've done it makes it a universal law? If I feel the urge to lie and cheat, I would just leave my wife and forget about her. You can't have your cake and eat it. yes some foolish comments on here .... makes me wonder about people sometimes ?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jeffreysearch Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 8:34 PM, newatthis said: If your worldview causes any sort of pain or suffering to others, you must expect ramifications. There is no such reality as turn the other cheek, forgive and forget, shake hands and walk away. Many of us may have those mindsets but, truthfully, those Victorian ideals will not thrive in the 21st century. Why do you think movies like "Punisher" and "Equalizer" are popular? Because it's payback time!!! Yes, this young lady was a victim of a final solution and that is devastating. Logically, the man should have walked away but human beings are emotional creatures as well as logical. She suffered the consequences of playing with human emotions and her children will have to live with the result. Yes i totally agree with what you say .. but do Thai men every walk away from what we Farangs would .. never in Thailand... Different World. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 9/5/2018 at 9:12 PM, mizou198 said: It's not about justify. It's trying to explain and share opinions about what leads her to her death. This is crystal clear for me : If you always drive too fast, expect one day to get an accident If you like to fight, expect one day to get beaten If you use drugs, expect one day to make an overdose And if you repeatedly scam people, expect one day to meet a bad one... She is partly responsible, for what happen to her. It's not victim blaming, it s statistics. The more dangerously you live, the more problems you get Totally agree...... thats life ... especially in Thailand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 36 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Yes, really. If the guy didn’t like her choices he should have walked. He didn't own her and had no say in her choices. Although is there any posters saying that he did the right thing and was correct to kill her ? I think that we are all in agreement that he should not have killed her and he should have just walked away 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, sanemax said: Although is there any posters saying that he did the right thing and was correct to kill her ? I think that we are all in agreement that he should not have killed her and he should have just walked away Many are victim blaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Many are victim blaming. I really do not have the time or inclination to have yet another "No they're not" , "Yes they are" , "No they're not", "Yes they are" discussion with you 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 Just now, sanemax said: I really do not have the time or inclination to have yet another "No they're not" , "Yes they are" , "No they're not", "Yes they are" discussion with you Then stop initiating them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Then stop initiating them. Im not "initiating them" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 On 9/6/2018 at 10:12 AM, giddyup said: Judging by some of the comments, there is obviously a very large percentage of woman haters on this forum, guys who think that this young woman deserved what happened to her, had it coming in fact. I can understand why these guys ended up in Thailand, their misogynist views and attitudes wouldn't have got them a first date in a western country, yet they put down the very women they probably came here for in the first place. Hypocrites all. Why ? just because you dont agree with them ... they just dont like Scamming women.. they dont condone the murder ... stop reading out of context ... and thinking your the rules boss here .. its their opinion.. nothing to do with what you said.... Fool ! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffreysearch Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) On 9/6/2018 at 1:56 PM, giddyup said: One house, understandable, two houses, unforgivable. Some people never learn. I know a guy here who has lost 3 houses to 3 different women, now he is penniless and surviving on a meager pension. Was he exploited, hardly. You must be a `Good guy.. if you didnt convince him to not buy all them houses etc ... well done ... or did you think he deserved it ... ?? Edited September 8, 2018 by jeffreysearch added comment 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
giddyup Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, jeffreysearch said: You must be a `Good guy.. if you didnt convince him to not buy all them houses etc ... well done ... or did you think he deserved it ... ?? He never asked my advice, besides, he is a grown man, he can make his own decisions, and I doubt if he would have listened to me anyway. Happy with the explanation? Edited September 8, 2018 by giddyup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 12 hours ago, Bluespunk said: Yes, really. If the guy didn’t like her choices he should have walked. He didn't own her and had no say in her choices. He had no say in her choices quite correct, but he made his own choice as regards her choices because she was involved with him and her choices affected him This is a case of human behaviour / nature in the raw He made his own choice and hopefully will pay the penalty for that He is quite obviously not a clone of yourself Bluespunk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, oldlakey said: He had no say in her choices quite correct, but he made his own choice as regards her choices because she was involved with him and her choices affected him This is a case of human behaviour / nature in the raw He made his own choice and hopefully will pay the penalty for that He is quite obviously not a clone of yourself Bluespunk Good we agree. She was blameless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted September 8, 2018 Share Posted September 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bluespunk said: Good we agree. She was blameless. I am sorry you can't comprehend my last contribution, but nevermind Her actions cannot be divorced from what took place here, as much as you continue to insist they can it's not unheard of in the profession she choose This is real life Bluespunk and involves fallible people, she has to share some of the responsibility for what happened that's the way life is, no matter how much you dislike it Its clearly one of the sins is it not "revenge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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