Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: OK, I think I get it now. You need to state an intention. Then after you become a Thai citizen, you don't need to actually honor that. Now, that is funny! Not really, seeing that many high up government officials have dual or multi citizenship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, Puccini said: Is it an official government form the applicant for naturalisation as a Thai national needs to sign, or does the applicant have to compose his own text? Yes it is. However, at the moment the UK consulate have stopped doing it since about 4 months ago until the home office have a meeting with the Thai authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane Dough Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jingthing said: OK, I think I get it now. You need to state an intention. Then after you become a Thai citizen, you don't need to actually honor that. Now, that is funny! Indeed...stating an intention and then not doing anything about it. What could be more Thai ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 What about his kids? If he’s a US citizen, they’re entitled to a US passport no?If he revokes his US citizenship, how will that affect their possible future in the US?Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Jingthing said: Not that I'm interested or could ever qualify for Thai citizenship Strange how almost all the people I hear saying that they are not interested or wouldn't want it, couldn't get it anyway. Please give one reason why you wouldn't want to have two passports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esso49 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Just when you think Thailand has enough comedians, another comes along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jane Dough said: Indeed...stating an intention and then not doing anything about it. What could be more Thai ? It's not a Thai thing it's a US form done at the US embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeakeasyThai Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 It's actually a very difficult thing to do - renouncing American citizenship. Many have tried and been refused to let it go. Then appealing and taking it through the US courts is going to set you back possibly hundreds of thousands of dollars, with no guarantee of winning your case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 minutes ago, lemonjelly said: What about his kids? If he’s a US citizen, they’re entitled to a US passport no? If he revokes his US citizenship, how will that affect their possible future in the US? Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect His kid doesn't need to renounce it just because he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jane Dough said: Indeed...stating an intention and then not doing anything about it. What could be more Thai ? Exactly. I didn't want to state it that explicitly to avoid being accused of bashing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Exactly. I didn't want to state it that explicitly to avoid being accused of bashing though. You would be bashing the US authorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yougivemebaby Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 3 hours ago, zaphod reborn said: Renouncing US citizenship is increasing in popularity, because the IRS demands ex-pats to file tax returns and pay taxes on income in excess of the Treaty on Dual Taxation limits. I can't blame this guy at all. I would do the same, if I could get a passport from another country. If you’re of Italian decent, it’s actually quite easy. Some clauses exist but I have many Italian American friends that have both Italian and American passports. Clauses exist but many are qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I'm a Yank and pay US taxes on my pension & social security. As they are US based, I would still be required to pay taxes regardless of citizenship. Medicare is useless here. Expats don't have political power, so easy to cut us out of coverage. I suppose they think we wouldn't ever need health care once we moved out of USA.... still get to pay into it or get dinged. Article said he spent his first 2 years in US, so probably is more Thai than Yank. Doesn't seem to consider future very well.... hmmm My "Tarzan's first law of the jungle: don't let go of one vine til you have hold of another" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1dayumay Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, ezzra said: Funny.. half of the people in Thailand will give their right arm to just do the opposite, renounce thai citizenship and become an american, go figure... Nope, what I find in thais compared to Filipinos are they don’t seems desperate to leave Thailand, while Filipinos will do everything to leave their country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fvw53 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, ezzra said: Funny.. half of the people in Thailand will give their right arm to just do the opposite, renounce thai citizenship and become an american, go figure... May-be he has a serious health condition for which he cannot afford treatment in the USA while as a Thai citizen he can get help at government owned hospitals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, Emster23 said: I'm a Yank and pay US taxes on my pension & social security. As they are US based, I would still be required to pay taxes regardless of citizenship. Medicare is useless here. Expats don't have political power, so easy to cut us out of coverage. I suppose they think we wouldn't ever need health care once we moved out of USA.... still get to pay into it or get dinged. Article said he spent his first 2 years in US, so probably is more Thai than Yank. Doesn't seem to consider future very well.... hmmm My "Tarzan's first law of the jungle: don't let go of one vine til you have hold of another" I was told that Yank was a derogatory term. I never know what to call people from the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinobot Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Yank is not derogatory, unless you’re still fighting for the southern confederacy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbbbooboo Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Isn’t there a parable about a boy swapping a lump of gold for a lump of coal ?.. Depends on what you see as valuable I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand J Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Easy to give up US citizenship. You have to have citizenship in another country . There are two appointments, one to understand what you are giving up, one to formally renounce. Form 81607 and Form 97025. Then wait for a letter from the state department to confirm. You will also need to file Form 8854 tell IRS to kiss your a** goodbye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTuner Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Jingthing said: OK, I think I get it now. You need to state an intention. Then after you become a Thai citizen, you don't need to actually honor that. Now, that is funny! It's the last test to check if you're truly Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, DrTuner said: It's the last test to check if you're truly Thai. He has to sign it in the US embassy, witnessed by the embassy staff, who are US people. Save your Thai bashing for something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Yanks or Septics. Whatever ....as they are generally loud and ignorant once you scratch the surface.Bull.Septic is an explicit slur.Yank is corny and dated and generally not used by Americans except ironically when taking to Brits. Citizens of the USA are called Americans.Duh. Yes, only in Latin America you might want to be diplomatic and say estadounidense. Not relevant elsewhere. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 7 hours ago, ezzra said: Funny.. half of the people in Thailand will give their right arm to just do the opposite, renounce thai citizenship and become an american, go figure... I am sure half the Thai population doesnt want to become USA citizens . Maybe a small percentage do, but 99 % of Thais are happy in Thailand being Thai . Yeah, quite a few prostitutes would like a rich husband and they would happily move to the USA fora better life , but half of the Thai population doesnt want to become USA citizens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanemax Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Jingthing said: Bull. Septic is an explicit slur. Yank is corny and dated. Citizens of the USA are called Americans. Duh. People from Central and South America , resent citizens from the USA claiming to be "Americans". America is the whole continents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmrichsw Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Be careful what you wish for comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand J Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 oops...the State Department has renamed and added new forms: DS-4079, DS-4080, DS-4081 and DS-4082. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand J Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Imagine the world without America. Cna you live without Netflix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Most accurate story ever on Thaivisa " STUPID " don't let the door hit you on the way out of the Embassy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonjelly Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 His kid doesn't need to renounce it just because he does.Would his kids still be able to apply for a US passport after he’s renounced his citizenship?Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerkinsCuthbert Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 8 hours ago, ezzra said: Funny.. half of the people in Thailand will give their right arm to just do the opposite, renounce thai citizenship and become an american, go figure... I guess that's why he's so funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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