CanterbrigianBangkoker Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Why would you not get dual citizenship? Doesn't make sense to me, he'd be no less 'loyal' to Thailand by holding both passports, since he WAS born in the States. If it is not a prerequisite to gaining Thai citizenship, (which it isn't) why renounce US citizenship? Anyhow, good luck to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 He should keep his US citizenship as a safety net especially where he is staying in such country now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldrunner Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 I love Thailand, I love my Thai wife, her children and grand-children but I am an American, served 20 years under her flag and will remain an American as my Thai family lowers me into Thai soil for my final trip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Theory Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 This is a very unique case since only those dual or multi citizens give their citizenship to escape US tax, but those make lots of money out of US. Congratulations anyway, Hope it works for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 48 minutes ago, lemonjelly said: Would his kids still be able to apply for a US passport after he’s renounced his citizenship? Sent from my iPhone using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app No idea, but probably has it already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Good for him. I wish him the best of luck and hope his dream comes true. Seems to be easy enough to do if you're a foreign woman married to a Thai man, but being a foreign man married to a Thai woman, the bar is raised to 'almost insurmountable.' It should not be that way for those who wish to pursue a path toward citizenship. The Thai government seems to have zero compassion for foreign men who attempt to fully integrate into Thai society such as Udom. So good for him!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Thian said: I liked that movie of him and his ants.... It's Udom, not Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Chef Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Two words........DUMB A$$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, connda said: but being a foreign man married to a Thai woman, the bar is raised to 'almost insurmountable.' It should not be that way for those who wish to pursue a path toward citizenship. It's easier than many other countries. Working for 3 years, salary over 40k a month. 5,000 baht for application. It's barstool myth that's it's impossible. What makes you think it's so difficult? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Hope he enjoys his 500 baht pension when he gets older. What a **** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arin Chokphisit Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, GinBoy2 said: Pay the money and renounce your citizenship. Does anyone actually know who he is? I'd never heard of the guy, so for me it's yet another of the 'Oh Well' stories that I don't care about I have met with Udom some 13 years ago and can attest to the fact that he feels like a Thai, speaks and eats like a Thai and has never ever wanted anything else but to be a Thai. Where he lives near Phrae he went to Thai school, lived with Thais all his life and is in every regard (but his looks) a Thai. I wish him very best of luck in finally getting Thai citizenship. I moved here 35 years ago at the age of 25 and have received my Thai citizenship 11 years ago. He deserves (and needs) Thai citizenship more than I.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smotherb Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 8 hours ago, Thailand said: When he gets his citizenship first thing will be his army call up papers. He is 42, do you really think that will happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neeranam Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, BobBKK said: Hope he enjoys his 500 baht pension when he gets older. What a **** Why so bitter? You obviously know nothing about the Thai pension scheme. 500 baht is just what all old people get, nothing to do with what they have paid into the pension scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Neeranam said: Why so bitter? You obviously know nothing about the Thai pension scheme. 500 baht is just what all old people get, nothing to do with what they have paid into the pension scheme. I never said that. I said enjoy your 500 THB pension that you will get when OLDER. Most Thais I know would give and arm and a leg to get to Europe or the USA. Who cares anyway if he wants to do this let him do it and condemn his kids to it too. To me it's pathetic and damn his parents for doing this for the 'Lord'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atyclb Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 6 hours ago, worgeordie said: What happens if he gives up his US citizenship, then cannot get Thai citizenship, he's going to be a stateless and we know how they are treated in Thailand.he's got to think this through carefully. regards Worgeordie then he must wander into a cave with some schoolchildren before it floods Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZAKY Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 9 hours ago, ezzra said: Funny.. half of the people in Thailand will give their right arm to just do the opposite, renounce thai citizenship and become an american, go figure... No! He is very clever, by renouncing to his american citizenship he will have no tax to pay to america and also it will be easier for him to open a bank account im thailand without declaring that he is an american citizen. Due to the Fatca system, all banks are compelled to report the accounts of all american citizen to america. Some banks are even reticent to open an account for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 7 hours ago, Jimbo in Thailand said: LOL, no need to leave the kingdom stravers, just do like I do and pretend you can't speak/understand Thai when a local starts getting under your skin. Of course, I'm assuming it's not your Thai babe, but a stranger, or 2 or 3. Yep, I've long known that the "language barrier" can be a very good thing at times. haha...I use the ''MUTE routine often ,and I am one step away from the''white cane '' when it comes to dealing with some thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Jingthing said: Bull. Septic is an explicit slur. Yank is corny and dated and generally not used by Americans except ironically when taking to Brits. Citizens of the USA are called Americans. Duh. Yes, only in Latin America you might want to be diplomatic and say estadounidense. Not relevant elsewhere. Sent from my Lenovo A7020a48 using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Septic is not widely used and is cockney rhyming slang (septic tank - yank) mostly used in Southern England area in a good natured way to mean an American. It is no more derogatory than an American calling an Englishman a limey or an Aussie calling him a pommie (POME). As a Canadian I don't get all bent out of shape being called a Canuck. Funny how New York has a baseball team called NY Yankees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 2 hours ago, sanemax said: People from Central and South America , resent citizens from the USA claiming to be "Americans". America is the whole continents The two continents are differentiated by the words North and South. Canadians are not American but are North American. Mexicans are not American but are North American. South America with 12 countries uses the individual name of the country, but American has historically been someone from the United States of America. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPatrickThai Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 7 minutes ago, ratcatcher said: but American has historically been someone from the United States of America. Only in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, ratcatcher said: Septic is not widely used and is cockney rhyming slang (septic tank - yank) mostly used in Southern England area in a good natured way to mean an American. It is no more derogatory than an American calling an Englishman a limey or an Aussie calling him a pommie (POME). As a Canadian I don't get all bent out of shape being called a Canuck. Funny how New York has a baseball team called NY Yankees? I'm aware of the origin. But septic and similar are indeed derogatory and so are limey and pommie. Quote http://www.rsdb.org/race/americans Seppo Americans Cockney rhyming slang for septic tank = yank, shortened. Seppo/Zeppo Americans Short for Septic, see Septic, Septic Tank. Septic Americans Short for Septic Tank, which is rhyming slang for "Yank." Commonly used in Ireland. May also be used in the UK. Septic Tank Americans Cockney rhyming slang for "yank", often abreviated to "Seppo" Yankee, Yank is NOT used by Americans among ourselves to describe our nationality. Yankee is about an American REGION -- North / Northeast but still dated and corny even in that usage. It has a lot of connotations of the civil war era (1860s), Yankees vs. Rebels.The New York Yankees were named LONG AGO. Americans are Americans. Like it or not. Like us or not. Even Canadians get that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 1 hour ago, MrPatrickThai said: Only in the USA. No, even in Canada, as much as we love Americans, we still refer to those from the lower 49th as Americans. Eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Splash210 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 Ok, well enjoy Thai pay lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweedledee2 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 4 hours ago, Neeranam said: I was told that Yank was a derogatory term. I never know what to call people from the US. You can call me Mr, Sir or by my first name if we are friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunFred Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 11 hours ago, Thailand said: When he gets his citizenship first thing will be his army call up papers. Not at 42. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gecko123 Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 My diagnosis? Obsessive compulsive nationality disphoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
micmichd Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 11 hours ago, gk10002000 said: well, giving up USA citizenship may sound like a good idea now, but later, now lets assume the USA still exists, he won't be eligible for any Medicare or any other federal benefits. Americans can hold dual citizenship, but if the Thais are expecting or demanding him to give up USA allegiance, well, so be it. One makes their bed, one sleeps in it. Guess Medicare or Medicaid are not much worse than Thai Universal Healthcare or NHS. Private Health Insurances in Asia are cheaper than in the U.S.A. And if he's worked for his pension he should well be able to take it with him and spend it in Thailand. I'm naturalized German, and I do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ostyan Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 As an American teacher, he can get 40K and up. As a Thai teacher, he can get as much as 20K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duanebigsby Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 5 hours ago, Emster23 said: I'm a Yank and pay US taxes on my pension & social security. As they are US based, I would still be required to pay taxes regardless of citizenship. Medicare is useless here. Expats don't have political power, so easy to cut us out of coverage. I suppose they think we wouldn't ever need health care once we moved out of USA.... still get to pay into it or get dinged. Article said he spent his first 2 years in US, so probably is more Thai than Yank. Doesn't seem to consider future very well.... hmmm My "Tarzan's first law of the jungle: don't let go of one vine til you have hold of another" There is no "vine" for a 42 year old who has lived here since he was 2. He has considered his future very well. It's to be in Thailand and not go to the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCC1701A Posted September 18, 2018 Share Posted September 18, 2018 very short sighted person putting all his eggs in a Thai basket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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