Video: Another seven illegal hotels raided in Pattaya - now 100 in all

[webfact]

Video: Another seven illegal hotels raided in Pattaya - now 100 in all

 

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Pattaya Online News posted a video on Facebook of a joint police and Bang Lamung authority raid on seven hotels in the Pattaya area. 

 

The hotels were contravening 2004 legislation by offering daily rentals. 

 

The raid was conducted by Bang Lamung official Praphan Prathumchomphu and chief of Pattaya's tourist police Lt-Col Piyapong Ensarn. 

 

The force was seen entering two properties the first of which was Joy Residence. The second could not be clearly ascertained. 

 

Pattaya Online News said that more than 100 illegal hotels had now been visited as part of the crackdown. 

 

The exact nature of charges and who would face them was not clearly articulated in the story. 

 

Source: Pattaya Online News

 

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[YetAnother]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

The exact nature of charges and who would face them was not clearly articulated in the story. 

so the whole thing was for show

[Borzandy]

3 hours ago, YetAnother said:

so the whole thing was for show

They could get some brown envelop.

[PETERTHEEATER]

.......The second could not be clearly ascertained. 

 

Due to the view being obstructed by a brown envelope?

[sam neuts]

This has been going on since 2016 and full compliance is expected by 2021.

If you take a walk around Pattaya you will see many closed that used to offer daily rentals.

[BestB]

None of the small places or even medium size places could ever comply with this Act and will never be able to obtain hotel license.

 

This brainiacs need to use brain for a change and comprehend that if a place is safe for 30 day rentals, there is absolutely no reason why it would not be safe for daily rentals.

 

Just print new license, charge 10 times more for it and problem solved but NOOOOOOO

 

Just like with everything else, they will first kill all and then wonder what has happened and how to revive it.

 

I also think someone in Pattaya online news, needs to catch up instead of just posting any rubbish they can.

 

Not only 7 were raided, but 7 get raided twice per week every week for the past at least 3-4 months, so do the math, no where near 100, more like 200 if not more.

 

Though 1 positive, if you listen to the head of Banglamung talking to reception, he says signs for daily rental and prices still up. so one could take from this, remove "daily" signs and prices and you should be ok ?

[Bangkok Barry]

 

7 hours ago, webfact said:

 

The exact nature of charges and who would face them was not clearly articulated in the story. 

 

 

7 hours ago, YetAnother said:

so the whole thing was for show

No, it means that the news source couldn't be bothered to find out what the charges are.

[BestB]

Just now, Bangkok Barry said:

 

 

No, it means that the news source couldn't be bothered to find out what the charges are.

Pretty obvious, operating hotel without a license

[sam neuts]

None of the small places or even medium size places could ever comply with this Act and will never be able to obtain hotel license.
 
This brainiacs need to use brain for a change and comprehend that if a place is safe for 30 day rentals, there is absolutely no reason why it would not be safe for daily rentals.
 
Just print new license, charge 10 times more for it and problem solved but NOOOOOOO
 
Just like with everything else, they will first kill all and then wonder what has happened and how to revive it.
 
I also think someone in Pattaya online news, needs to catch up instead of just posting any rubbish they can.
 
Not only 7 were raided, but 7 get raided twice per week every week for the past at least 3-4 months, so do the math, no where near 100, more like 200 if not more.
 
Though 1 positive, if you listen to the head of Banglamung talking to reception, he says signs for daily rental and prices still up. so one could take from this, remove "daily" signs and prices and you should be ok [emoji6]

Full agreement with many of your points.

Also about tax and registration of all Hosts making money from short term rentals, and ensuring TM30's are in order.

Currently little or no control.

They are in "negotiations" with companies like airbnb who earned $US 97 million from Thailand tourism in 2017, but pay very little in tax, and have thousands of illegal listings on the website.

Multiply that by the number of Global OTA's and you can see how much money the government is losing each year.

There are a few changes apparently being made to the Hotel Act, which will be released in the near future.

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[BestB]

2 minutes ago, sam neuts said:

Full agreement with many of your points.

Also about tax and registration of all Hosts making money from short term rentals, and ensuring TM30's are in order.

Currently little or no control.

They are in "negotiations" with companies like airbnb who earned $US 97 million from Thailand tourism in 2017, but pay very little in tax, and have thousands of illegal listings on the website.

Multiply that by the number of Global OTA's and you can see how much money the government is losing each year.

There are a few changes apparently being made to the Hotel Act, which will be released in the near future.

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By the time they make the changes, there would be no small places standing. lol

 

Just like Kaosan road, first they butchered it, killed it and now brainstorming how to revive it

 

 

[newnative]

Have they raided The Base yet?

[nong38]

What Pattaya needs is a BUTLINS HOLIDAY CAMP!

[BestB]

3 hours ago, newnative said:

Have they raided The Base yet?

Can not , too hard to chase down individual owners ?

[The manic]

Non of the targetted hotels have done any harm. Such police actions just stifle smalls businesses. All a rubbish waste of time.

[The manic]

3 hours ago, BestB said:

Can not , too hard to chase down individual owners ?

No need. Just Block the doors of individual units and put warning notices up in Chinese and Russian.

[volsfan]

3 hours ago, The manic said:

Non of the targetted hotels have done any harm. Such police actions just stifle smalls businesses. All a rubbish waste of time.

Stifling small business is the POINT of the exercise. The hotel association WANTS the small guys put out of business. And, since the BIB are beholden to those with the most cash, that is what is happening. 

[sanemax]

Well, that's inflation for you .

20 years ago, they used to raid hotels that charged by the hour .

Now they are raiding hotels that charge by the day .

Wonder whether that's anything to do with viagra now being available over the counter ?

[newnative]

8 hours ago, BestB said:

Can not , too hard to chase down individual owners ?

Just follow the long stream of Chinese dragging their suitcases to their rooms every day, then get the owner names from Juristic. 

[BestB]

46 minutes ago, newnative said:

Just follow the long stream of Chinese dragging their suitcases to their rooms every day, then get the owner names from Juristic. 

Yes and then need to find the owner?

[newnative]

37 minutes ago, BestB said:

Yes and then need to find the owner?

Not really.  As The Maniac says, just block the doors.  Put a door knob cover on to deny access to the illegal room. Then it's up to the owner to get in touch with the police.  

[BestB]

6 minutes ago, newnative said:

Not really.  As The Maniac says, just block the doors.  Put a door knob cover on to deny access to the illegal room. Then it's up to the owner to get in touch with the police.  

Need a court order for that, takes time and effort . Not justifying it just explaining. They go for easy, soft targets 

[mlmcleod]

7 hours ago, The manic said:

Non of the targetted hotels have done any harm. Such police actions just stifle smalls businesses. All a rubbish waste of time.

Sadly, I disagree.  These small hotels make it far more difficult to collect all the brown envelopes and they offer lower prices.  Lower prices mean unwelcome competition for the BIG hotels that faithfully deliver their brown envelopes every week.  Competition is not welcome here!

[Rimmer]

Off topic post attempting to hijack the topic removed

[The manic]

10 hours ago, mlmcleod said:

Sadly, I disagree.  These small hotels make it far more difficult to collect all the brown envelopes and they offer lower prices.  Lower prices mean unwelcome competition for the BIG hotels that faithfully deliver their brown envelopes every week.  Competition is not welcome here!

Speculation and fantasy. And innacurate. 

[sanemax]

10 hours ago, mlmcleod said:

Sadly, I disagree.  These small hotels make it far more difficult to collect all the brown envelopes and they offer lower prices.  Lower prices mean unwelcome competition for the BIG hotels that faithfully deliver their brown envelopes every week.  Competition is not welcome here!

Did you just make that up ?

[BestB]

1 hour ago, The manic said:

Speculation and fantasy. And innacurate. 

 

1 hour ago, sanemax said:

Did you just make that up ?

Actually guys, he is not wrong, It was Hotel Association who forced, possibly paid the government to start this madness.

 

The big boys club of 800 members, who happen to be 4-5 star hotels are the ones who started and pushing this agenda.

 

I am guessing in their narrow heads they believe this will get them more guests, sadly they do not realize, 500 baht room guests do not book into 5000 baht rooms and vice versa 5000 baht room guests, do not go stay in 500 baht rooms.

 

This only happens on Thai visa, in reality, those who go 4-5 star, always go ONLY 4-5 star and those who do budget, will ONLY do budget and if budget is not available, they simply will not go at all, that is IF they could afford it to start with

[champers]

19 minutes ago, BestB said:

 

Actually guys, he is not wrong, It was Hotel Association who forced, possibly paid the government to start this madness.

 

The big boys club of 800 members, who happen to be 4-5 star hotels are the ones who started and pushing this agenda.

 

I am guessing in their narrow heads they believe this will get them more guests, sadly they do not realize, 500 baht room guests do not book into 5000 baht rooms and vice versa 5000 baht room guests, do not go stay in 500 baht rooms.

 

This only happens on Thai visa, in reality, those who go 4-5 star, always go ONLY 4-5 star and those who do budget, will ONLY do budget and if budget is not available, they simply will not go at all, that is IF they could afford it to start with

Also worth noting that many top end hotels give discounted rates to groups, especially in low season i.e. now. It is the growing number of independant travellers organising their own accommodation via the likes of airbnb who are skewing the market and at plenty of condo complexes other than the Base.

Edited September 19, 2018 by champers

[BestB]

2 minutes ago, champers said:

Also worth noting that many top end hotels give discounted rates to groups, especially in low season i.e. now. It is the growing number of independant travellers organising their own accommodation via the likes of airbnb who are skewing the market and at plenty of condo complexes other than the Base.

May well be so, but keep in mind, all those groups were never interested in staying in 2 star hotels. Westerners never  really traveled in groups, which leaves only Chinese, Indian and Russians and these groups always stayed in 4-5 star hotels, never a 2 star.

 

 

[pattayadude]

On 9/18/2018 at 10:08 AM, webfact said:

The exact nature of charges... was not clearly articulated in the story. 

500baht and a wai...

Edited September 21, 2018 by pattayadude

[fforest1]

On 9/19/2018 at 10:15 AM, mlmcleod said:

Sadly, I disagree.  These small hotels make it far more difficult to collect all the brown envelopes and they offer lower prices.  Lower prices mean unwelcome competition for the BIG hotels that faithfully deliver their brown envelopes every week.  Competition is not welcome here!

This is correct...