Video Foreign tourist assaulted by security guard after being denied entry at Don Mueang

[Shaunduhpostman]

It's a tall order to ask let alone expect that Chinese people will behave according to any civil standards that most adults in most  of the rest of of the world more or less follow, tho that said, I doubt much is done to coerce them via fines or even signs on the walls to behave. There should be people around to remove people who are completely out of control, pushing shouting acting like lunatics which I saw quite a bit of from Chinese in both the Thai and Indonesian airports I visited. Was at Don Muang international terminal a few days ago and also a few weeks before that. In the time since I was there previously, 4 years ago, the place has become something resembling a stockyard or a Chinese refugee camp. Chinese sleeping on the seats all over the airport, one person occupying 3-5 seats, snoring and hacking and drooling all over, literally, so that the few seats that are available have been soiled with snot, saliva, blood . So you have to stand and wait in the waiting room for your flight. I think the atmosphere of chaos starts there and the airport doesn't seem to recognize that and seems to feel perfectly fine that Don Muang now looks like a bus station full of winos and homeless people. The Chinese have overrun the international terminal at Don Muang and this incident shows that indeed they don't even have to respect being denied entry.

 

In the immigration line when I was leaving Thailand, this Chinese woman, starts shouting at the official, she's been asked for her exit form. She doesn't have it and instead of just conceding that she might want to fill one out or have someone help her do so, she creates a huge scene by dumping the entire contents of her bag all over the floor, literally a bag of trash she is carrying around and begins frantically scrambling around on all fours grabbing at her things, unwadding all the crunched up papers "looking" for the exit form. The official stoically acts as though nothing is going on at all and  beckons others in the queue to step up, the woman is flailing around bumping into people, yelling, there are lipstick containers, pencils, pens, baby pacifiers all there for people to slip and fall on. So to see the immigration official you have to go through the gauntlet of this woman have a complete spazz attack. Or the woman who slams into people and pushes through a queue instead of walking 3 more steps around it. And then turns right back around around and does the same thing going the other way. She's just aimlessly walking back and forth almost though out of boredom she has to start pushing and shoving people 100% needlessly. I wondered if she wasn't just intentionally trying to provoke a fight or a scene. Or at an airport self-service counter type restaurant a woman coughing her lungs out not only not covering her mouth but swaying with her cough so as to project it out all over everyone including her child asleep on her lap as though she is trying to infect all of us. She literally wont stop the most horrendous, non-reflexive kind of coughing. She's not ordered anything just sitting there taking up an entire table and  intentionally hacking and coughing from the time I arrived till 20 minutes later when I left. The restaurant just tolerates it all. Or the booming flight announcements on the Air Asia flight to Indonesia in Chinese while the Thai in English is barely audible. Chinese,Chinese Thais, and light skinned Asians seated at the front of the plane and all others assigned  to the back seats on the two flights I took. 

 

Immigration and the airport and the airlines are bringing this kind of behavior on themselves. If they don't make efforts to rein in things like using Don Muang as a crash pad they can only expect more emboldened Chinese "tourists".

Edited September 30, 2018 by Shaunduhpostman

[SammyT]

3 minutes ago, Shaunduhpostman said:

In the immigration line when I was leaving Thailand, this Chinese woman, starts shouting at the official, she's been asked for her exit form. She doesn't have it and instead of just conceding that she might want to fill one out or have someone help her do so, she creates a huge scene by dumping the entire contents of her bag all over the floor, literally a bag of trash she is carrying around and begins frantically scrambling around on all fours grabbing at her things, unwadding all the crunched up papers "looking" for the exit form. The official stoically acts as though nothing is going on at all and  beckons others in the cue to step up, the woman is flailing around bumping into people, yelling, there are lipstick containers, pencils, pens, baby pacifiers all there for people to slip and fall on. So to see the immigration official you have to go through the gauntlet of this woman have a complete spazz attack. Or the woman who slams into people and pushes through a queue instead of walking 3 more steps around it. And then turns right back around around and does the same thing going the other way. She's just aimlessly walking back and forth almost though out of boredom she has to start pushing and shoving people 100% needlessly. I wondered if she wasn't just intentionally trying to provoke a fight or a scene. Or at an airport self-service counter type restaurant a woman coughing her lungs out not only not covering her mouth but swaying with her cough so as to project it out all over everyone including her child asleep on her lap as though she is trying to infect all of us. She literally wont stop the most horrendous, non-reflexive kind of coughing. She's not ordered anything just sitting there taking up an entire table and  intentionally hacking and coughing from the time I arrived till 20 minutes later when I left. The restaurant just tolerates it all.

 

This is one of the best things I've ever read.

 

DMK reminds me of an old mental hospital, especially the international terminal. Last time I flew out of there internationally (18 months or so ago), the "foodcourt" was about 60 square metres in size, with 400 people trying to get food. Ugly paint peeling off the walls, decaying lino and carpet. If Thai airports were part of a family, it seems Suvarnabhumi Airport is like the child who is the captain of the football team and gets all the love and praise from the parents, whereas DMK is the red-headed stepchild that is forgotten about and gets nothing. 

[Nice Boyd]

Must not annoy Are Chinese Masters

[Tchooptip]

14 hours ago, baansgr said:

The outright nastiness is oozing from the middle to the outer boundaries and has now even reached outside of immigration. Are we in despot banana republic as my views on this place are becoming more jaded everyday with the rudeness, laziness, blatant racism and feeling of not being wanted here at all.

We do not live in the same Thailand, I am here full time for six years, never ever I felt not being wanted, nowhere by no one, we are not on the same planet.

I would even say that I have warmer contacts with the majority of Thais than with most of the expats that I have crossed, such a  difference for me is, therefore, a deep mystery? Exemple my daughter in law is very social, she worked for an air comp[any now she owns her own business, once two times a year she makes a small party in my house inviting let's say, ten people, more or less her age in their thirties, they always insist for me to come, they do that on the terrace, if  I do not come they come to fetch me in the house jokingly. All of them talk to me in more or less good English, I also answer in Thai and the whole evening is really warm. My wife brothers and sister are very friendly, her grandchildren called me dtaa and asked all the time when I will come. ....I'm not a sweet dreamer it's my everyday reality, and no one borrows me money in case want to know LOL

[SammyT]

11 minutes ago, Tchooptip said:

We do not live in the same Thailand, I am here full time for six years, never ever I felt not being wanted, nowhere by no one, we are not on the same planet.

I would even say that I have warmer contacts with the majority of Thais than with most of the expats that I have crossed, such a  difference for me is, therefore, a deep mystery? Exemple my daughter in law is very social, she worked for an air comp[any now she owns her own business, once two times a year she makes a small party in my house inviting let's say, ten people, more or less her age in their thirties, they always insist for me to come, they do that on the terrace, if  I do not come they come to fetch me in the house jokingly. All of them talk to me in more or less good English, I also answer in Thai and the whole evening is really warm. My wife brothers and sister are very friendly, her grandchildren called me dtaa and asked all the time when I will come. ....I'm not a sweet dreamer it's my everyday reality, and no one borrows me money in case want to know LOL

 

I'm in the same boat, even though we clearly have different lifestyles here (as in, I'm not married to a Thai or have extended Thai family). 95% of my interactions with Thai officials are warm and helpful. Sure, I've been stopped by the arrogant cop looking for a bribe, but I've also been stopped at checkpoints where cops are friendly, respectful and are genuinely interested in speaking English to me, perhaps to practice their English. Immigration officials I've found are generally friendly and helpful, but then I'm not like the guy I sat behind the other day who insisted on yelling at the lady at immigration because she told him he could do his 90 day check in two weeks early. 

 

Likewise with Thais in general. Sure, there are <deleted> in every society and Thailand has them too, but even with taxi, tuktuk and moto drivers I've never really had any issues in the three or so years I've been here aside from the odd guy trying to charge me 50b more than I should probably pay (in the end its NZ $2 so I'm not gonna lose sleep over it or dwell on it). I suspect because I go out of my way to be friendly to everyone, I'm not patronising, threatening and I try my hardest to speak Thai, even though I suck at it, so they afford me the same respect. 

 

The way I see a few (note: a minority of) westerners treat bar and restaurant staff, 7/11 workers, taxi drivers and street vendors, I'm unsurprised that some of those people feel unwelcome here. My dad used to say "judge a man by the way he treats the waiter" and I've found that pretty fitting over here, both with westerners and Thais and the way they interact with people in lowly paid positions.

Edited September 30, 2018 by SammyT

[hansnl]

Shame on the authorities to punish the man that did his job.

Just to tickle the Chinese.

Shameful.

[Howiehotspur]

Will this affect the future of Chinese tourism to Thailand ? ???????????????????? especially where I live . Pratumnak Hill , or Chinese coach park as it’s otherwise known ????

[Ks45672]

13 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

After the Phuket mass drownings, the Thais are, so to speak, bending over backwards to keep the Chinese tourist flow and money happily coming.

 

From the article, it sounds like the Chinese guy was correctly denied entry and may have been otherwise misbehaving. But regardless, I don't think any of that justifies an airport security guard taking a swing at the guy.  In that regard, he probably deserves to lose his job, but not because the Chinese guy was in the right.

 

 

Makes a change from them bending over forwards for them for years I suppose.... 

[Destiny1990]

4 minutes ago, Howiehotspur said:

Will this affect the future of Chinese tourism to Thailand ? ???????????????????? especially where I live . Pratumnak Hill , or Chinese coach park as it’s otherwise known ????

Their boats can sink.

They can be filmed at shrimp buffet restaurants.

They can be slapped at airports.

Will it stop the Chinese for coming?

i doubt it probably in their home country things are worse.

[soalbundy]

16 hours ago, Argus Tuft said:

 

Nobody was bowing backwards, but the guard lost his cool.  Could have been handled better methinks

an example please

[Ks45672]

5 minutes ago, tomazbodner said:

Quite honestly - had the Chinese man done that in US, he'd be shot dead.

Deservedly so.... 

[natway09]

He was just doing his job, unfortunately he was not trained properly to do it effectively 

(employers fault) The Chinese guy should have been taken to the ground , handcuffed 

& taken to the holding pen for further action. Apologies through the Embassy,,, come on

the guy was flouting the entry restrictions

In America & some other countries he may have been shot

[animalmagic]

5 minutes ago, Artisi said:

When China says bend over to the Thais, their response is how far? 

Confucius say, "When emperor says sh*t!  All the ar**holes bend and take the strain."

 

[Burma Bill]

Why an apology to the Chinese Embassy? This idiot was trying to enter Thailand illegally. I hope he was deported and not shown a "back door" entry as compensation. Unfortunately I have met many Chinese who think they are the best thing since "sliced bread" or should I say "flied lice"

[Ks45672]

1 hour ago, steve73 said:

Yet again, a TV topic that generates totally opposing views.

Who was right, Tourist or Security Guy?

Musk or Unsworth?

Kiwi or Motorcyclist in Rayong?

Brexit, leaver or remainer?

The list is endless, but I wonder, do the same people always fall on the same side of the divide from my own position..?

The kiwi should charge the motorcycle family for repairs 

[Thaidream]

According to the report- the man was denied entry and as we all know one must then go to the holding area and await the next flight out.  The guard was within his right to stop the man and escort him back to the secure holding area. The Chinese must have said something that really angered the Thai guard hence the guard action.  He should be counselled on ho to handle  these situations but not fired.

 

I don't know what happened to the Chinese but I will bet he was allowed to enter Thailand and got an apology.

 

As one poster mentioned- the Chinese need to be  controlled- Thai guards need to stop these people from destroying waiting areas. It is only a matter of time before there is a physical confrontation.

[schvonsky1]

23 hours ago, worgeordie said:

So the guard will lose his job, for doing his job,he had been denied 

entry to Thailand ,so goes on walkabout in airport,he refused to stay

in the detention room!,sounds like he was trying to enter Thailand anyway.

regards worgeordie

Omg he’s doing his job yes but he doesn’t do his job by assaulting folk are you ????deed ????????????????

[steve73]

6 hours ago, schvonsky1 said:

Omg he’s doing his job yes but he doesn’t do his job by assaulting folk are you ????deed ????????????????

 

Correct.. He should have used his formally issued and authorized weapon, whether that was a baton, taser, or firearm.

[FitnessHealthTravel]

Biting the hand that feed them.  Typical of Thailand.  The world has been very forgiving of Thailand but many nations don't come here anymore.  Can't they see they are running out of new Countries?

 

People in these positions need to be trained correctly and understand other cultures and the way they react.  Just another day in Thailand with some embarrassing themselves in public, on social media.

[sandmonster]

2 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

At the very beginning of the clip the security guard has his hand up in the passengers face pushing him away from him when the man swings his arm over the security guards' and toward his head, that is when the security guard tries to strike the passenger. 

 

I must be blind ( but I did get new specs last week so I doubt it ), but I see the tourist bring his arm to stop the security guard shoving this forceful hand into his face, and he was successful by pushing it down and away. Towards his head ? Ummm, maybe u need new specs too ? The tourist might be an AH, but in no way did he attempt to strike the guard during that clip.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 30, 2018 by sandmonster
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[SammyT]

18 minutes ago, FitnessHealthTravel said:

Biting the hand that feed them.  Typical of Thailand.  The world has been very forgiving of Thailand but many nations don't come here anymore.  Can't they see they are running out of new Countries?

 

 

Care to elaborate on the "many" countries that don't go to Thailand anymore?

[Ks45672]

1 minute ago, SammyT said:

 

Care to elaborate on the "many" countries that don't go to Thailand anymore?

Way less farangs come here than even just a decade ago

[Mickmouse1]

For the past 26 years I have been going in and out of many Airports in Thailand .Not a single time was I asked to show any onwards tickets or hotel reservation. All my trips to BKK were on one way tickets.

Maybe because I far too handsome ????

[SammyT]

12 minutes ago, Ks45672 said:

Way less farangs come here than even just a decade ago

Go check out the actual statistics online and see just how wrong you are. Arrival numbers are more than double what they were 10 years ago. 

Look at the "arrivals by country" table. Not one "farang" country has numbers down on where they were in 2008.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand#Annual_statistics

Edited September 30, 2018 by SammyT

[Ks45672]

7 minutes ago, SammyT said:

Go check out the actual statistics online and see just how wrong you are. Arrival numbers are more than double what they were 10 years ago. 

 

Where are they all hiding? 

The bkk bar scene is dead and pattaya is not much better

Even khao San Road is a shell of its former self

[PEE TEE]

How did immigration let him walk away while being questioned . shame the guard had to try to give him a slap. but the chinese guy is most likely pulling a fast one to get into the country.   

[SammyT]

5 minutes ago, Ks45672 said:

 

Where are they all hiding? 

The bkk bar scene is dead and pattaya is not much better

Even khao San Road is a shell of its former self

Yeah, dunno. But those are presumably accurate numbers. I guess the majority of tourists probably don't frequent red light bars or Khaosan Road these days?

[Kieran00001]

28 minutes ago, sandmonster said:

 

I must be blind ( but I did get new specs last week so I doubt it ), but I see the tourist bring his arm to stop the security guard shoving this forceful hand into his face, and he was successful by pushing it down and away. Towards his head ? Ummm, maybe u need new specs too ? The tourist might be an AH, but in no way did he attempt to strike the guard during that clip.

 

 

 

 

 

His arm comes from being down by his side to being next to the security guards head, it looks as though he actually touches his shoulder, the police in the US have the right to kill you if you touch them like that, that is all I am saying.

[atyclb]

3 hours ago, Spidey said:

 

And you are an affront to all logic. How does the Tiannaman square incident relate to a security guard swinging a punch in an airport? It was you that used a tragedy to make a cheap point.

 

Why don't you try comparing the security guard's action to 9/11? that might impress your pals.

 

 

i thought tianamen square comment was levity.  i dont know about security guards at 9/11 but police and firemen were heroes, many of them making the ultimate sacrifice. the planners behind 9/11 were no heroes.

[meinphuket]

I am extremely sorry for the security guard for exposure to this Chinese drama Queen who was denied entry by immigration, and the resulting groveling by the authorities to protect arrivals . Same drama rubbish happened in Sweden at a hotel last week where the guests arrived at 1am or so for a stay booked from 2pm onwards, and expected to nevertheless check in early FOC. Personally, I have had to also deny entry several times to those who booked for a stay from 2pm onwards , but deliberately arrived 14 hours early expecting not having to pay, and threating with the police, which is meaningless to me. These travelelers also tend to show up with more people than booked, who 'sneak in' sometime later.