Visa based on marriage Renewal in Khon Kaen Question

[shaemus]

I Need to renew my visa based on marriage for the first time, my current visa (the 1st) was granted overseas in Australia.

 

It is coming up to renewal time and i want to clarify exactly what i am going to need and what the current status quo is in Khon Kaen. 

 

I would happily use a visa agent if its going to save  me a load of hassle 

 

can anyone help or point me in the right direction

 

Thanks in advance

 

Shaemus

 

[ubonjoe]

You cannot renew a visa at immigration.

I assume you have a single or multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage.

You could apply for a one year extension of the 90 day permit to stay from the visa during the last 30 days of it. To apply based upon marriage you will need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only for 2 months or proof of 40k baht income.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife at immigration with no financial proof.

[shaemus]

3 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You cannot renew a visa at immigration.

I assume you have a single or multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage.

You could apply for a one year extension of the 90 day permit to stay from the visa during the last 30 days of it. To apply based upon marriage you will need 400k baht in a Thai bank in your name only for 2 months or proof of 40k baht income.

You could also apply for a 60 day extension to visit your wife at immigration with no financial proof.

 

 

Thanks Ubonjoe

 

Yes correct i have a multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage.

 

Are you saying there are 2 options for a years visa with multiple 90 day entries?

 

I might have slipped up with the 400K As my funds are overseas.

 

What does the classifcation of 40K income cover?

 

The 60 day Extension: that is an onshore (thai) application?

 

 

[ubonjoe]

20 minutes ago, shaemus said:

Yes correct i have a multiple entry non-o visa based upon marriage.

Are you saying there are 2 options for a years visa with multiple 90 day entries?

I might have slipped up with the 400K As my funds are overseas.

What does the classifcation of 40K income cover?

The 60 day Extension: that is an onshore (thai) application?

When does your visa expire? You could get another 90 day entry or or before it expires to get a new 90 day entry.

If you want a new multiple entry non-o visa you could go to the consulate in Savannakhet Laos and get another one with no financial proof.

The only one year visa is a multiple entry non-o visa issued by an embassy or consulate. A one year extension applied for at a immigration office allows you to stay in the country without leaving unless you want to which requires a re-entry permit if you want to travel.

You can use any income earned outside the country to meet the 40k baht income proven by doing a statutory declaration at the Australian embassy.

As I wrote the one year and 60 day extensions are applied for at your local immigration office.

You can apply for the 60 day extension during the last couple of weeks of your 90 entry for a fee of 1900 baht. You wife will need to be with you when you apply.

[Tanoshi]

You have two options:

1. Apply for another Non Imm O ME Visa (only available from a Thai Embassy/Consulate) OR

2. Apply to extend your period of stay based on marriage at local Immigration. (A permit, not a Visa).

 

A multi entry Non Imm O Visa. Valid 1 year. Can be issued to those who are 65 and over in receipt of the 'state pension' or married to a Thai, or have Thai family. This Visa allows unlimited 90 day entries before the ‘enter before’ date of the Visa, at which point this Visa is ‘used’. You cannot make 90 day reports at Immigration, you must leave and re-enter Thailand to obtain another 90 days permission to stay. You can extend each 90 day permission to stay one time by 60 days (at Immigration) for the purpose of visiting a Thai wife or child and the relationship is de jure and defacto.If used correctly, you can stay in Thailand for almost 17 months with this Visa type with only 3 border crossings.

 

Extensions of Stay based on ‘Retirement’ or ‘Marriage’, are ‘Permits’, not Visas.                                                                  They are a rubber inked stamp posted in your passport and obtained from internal Immigration offices, not Thai Embassies/Consulates.

They extend your permission to stay from the entry of a Visa after it's expiry. You must hold a Non Immigrant type Visa in order to make annual extensions. You can apply for an extension of permission to stay based on retirement or marriage (subject to meeting the financial requirements) within the last 30 days of any of the 90 day permission to stay periods of the above Visa types.                     An extension, unlike a Visa, does not allow entries into Thailand. It is not an extension to your Visa, which expires on the ‘enter before’ date. It only extends your permission to stay in Thailand, for 365 days, subject to making 90 day reports.                                     Above the ‘extension stamp’ a separate stamp stating either ‘retirement’ or ‘marriage’ denotes the purpose on which the extension was issued. The second line of each extension stamp reads as follows;                                                                         Extension of stay permitted until…………… (Note, not extension of a Visa.)

 

If you wish to leave and re-enter Thailand on an extension of your permission to stay, you must first purchase a re-entry permit to keep your extension valid. A single re-entry permit cost 1,000 baht, multiple entry 3,800 baht. They are only valid for the period the extension is valid and expire when your current extension expires.

 

The financial requirement for an extension based on marriage is either;                                                          400,000 baht deposited in a Thai bank for 2 months prior to the date of application, by means of a letter and updated passbook from your bank on the same day as the application, OR                                                      Proof of a monthly Income of 40,000 baht, by means of an affidavit made at your Australian Embassy in Bangkok. (Currently the Embassy do not require any proof of your income).

[shaemus]

24 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

When does your visa expire? You could get another 90 day entry or or before it expires to get a new 90 day entry.

If you want a new multiple entry non-o visa you could go to the consulate in Savannakhet Laos and get another one with no financial proof.

The only one year visa is a multiple entry non-o visa issued by an embassy or consulate. A one year extension applied for at a immigration office allows you to stay in the country without leaving unless you want to which requires a re-entry permit if you want to travel.

You can use any income earned outside the country to meet the 40k baht income proven by doing a statutory declaration at the Australian embassy.

As I wrote the one year and 60 day extensions are applied for at your local immigration office.

You can apply for the 60 day extension during the last couple of weeks of your 90 entry for a fee of 1900 baht. You wife will need to be with you when you apply.

 

 

Thanks again

 

My current  Entry Visa Expires 4 Nov 2018: Visa class

 

the date of Issue of the Non Imm O was the 20 Oct 2017

 

What is the difference between a New visa from Savannakhet and a 1 year  extension at my Local (khon Kaen) immigration office. apart from the burden of proof of income?

[ubonjoe]

2 minutes ago, shaemus said:

My current  Entry Visa Expires 4 Nov 2018: Visa class

the date of Issue of the Non Imm O was the 20 Oct 2017

You must leave the country on before November 4th unless you apply for an extension.

You could leave and re-enter the country on or before October 19th and get a new 90 day entry from your visa. Then you could apply for a 60 day extension of that 90 days or the one year extension of stay.

2 minutes ago, shaemus said:

What is the difference between a New visa from Savannakhet and a 1 year  extension at my Local (khon Kaen) immigration office. apart from the burden of proof of income?

The visa requires leaving the country every 90 days for a new entry. With the one year extension you could stay for that year without leaving the country unless you want to and then apply for another one year extension every year without ever leaving the country.

[Phuket Man]

Khon Kaen Immigration are friendly and easy to deal with.

When the time comes you can apply for a 12 month extension with 400,000 Baht in a Thai bank for 2 months or 40,000 Baht monthly income.

 

As Joe said, you wont have to do this for a few months yet.

[Tanoshi]

4 minutes ago, shaemus said:

 

 

Thanks again

 

My current  Entry Visa Expires 4 Nov 2018: Visa class

 

the date of Issue of the Non Imm O was the 20 Oct 2017

 

What is the difference between a New visa from Savannakhet and a 1 year  extension at my Local (khon Kaen) immigration office. apart from the burden of proof of income?

 

You currently have permission to stay until Nov 4th.

Your Visa will expire on 19th Oct (Enter before date)

 

If you cross the border and re-enter on 18th October, you will be given permission to stay for another 90 days, until Jan 15th and you can then extend that for 60 days at IO (1,900 baht) taking you to March 15th.

[shaemus]

1 hour ago, Tanoshi said:

 

You currently have permission to stay until Nov 4th.

Your Visa will expire on 19th Oct (Enter before date)

 

If you cross the border and re-enter on 18th October, you will be given permission to stay for another 90 days, until Jan 15th and you can then extend that for 60 days at IO (1,900 baht) taking you to March 15th.

 

 

So in essence

1. i can go to savannakhet and get a fresh 1 year Non O visa (sticker) based on marriage with no proof of income required (if so what documents will i require to do this)
2. or i can extend my current visa for another year at my local immigration office and then apply for a multiple entry permit (i require this). (if so what documents will i require to do this)
3. or i can leave the Country before my 90 Visa stamp expires and have another 90 days from my re entry date

many thanks

 

Shameus

 

 

 

 

 

[Tanoshi]

52 minutes ago, shaemus said:

i can go to savannakhet and get a fresh 1 year Non O visa (sticker) based on marriage with no proof of income required (if so what documents will i require to do this)

Yes, you would have to do this before Nov 4th, unless you extend your permission to stay for another 60 days at your local IO, then you wouldn't need to apply for a new Visa at Savannakhet until Jan 2nd. (Check closure dates).

Passport.

Copy of passport.

Copy of Marriage certificate.

Copy of wife's Tabien Baan and ID card.

 

52 minutes ago, shaemus said:

or i can extend my current visa for another year at my local immigration office and then apply for a multiple entry permit (i require this). (if so what documents will i require to do this)

You cannot extend a Visa. You will be applying to extend your permission to stay at your local IO.

Document requirements:

 

Extension of Stay based on Marriage.pdf

 

52 minutes ago, shaemus said:

or i can leave the Country before my 90 Visa stamp expires and have another 90 days from my re entry date

Before the 'enter before' date of your current Visa (Oct 19th) as explained in post 9.

[sometimewoodworker]

25 minutes ago, shaemus said:

or i can extend my current visa for another year at my local immigration office and then apply for a multiple entry permit (i require this). (if so what documents will i require to do this)

You do not extend a visa, you extend a permission to stay a subtle but very important difference 

 

you will need:

 1)your wife 

2)her ID Card and copy

3)her house book copy (maybe original as well)

4)marrage certificate and copy 

5)KR 2

6)1 local Thai person who knows you (often a village headman) with copies of his house book and ID card

7)map to your house (often hand drawn)

8 ) 4 or more pictures of you in and in front of your house

9) copies of your passport.

10) bank letter showing your 400k deposit and recent transactions in your account 

11) bank book referred to in no.10

[shaemus]

4 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

You do not extend a visa, you extend a permission to stay a subtle but very important difference 

 

you will need:

 1)your wife 

2)her ID Card and copy

3)her house book copy (maybe original as well)

4)marrage certificate and copy 

5)KR 2

6)1 local Thai person who knows you (often a village headman) with copies of his house book and ID card

7)map to your house (often hand drawn)

8 ) 4 or more pictures of you in and in front of your house

9) copies of your passport.

10) bank letter showing your 400k deposit and recent transactions in your account 

11) bank book referred to in no.10

 

 

Yes thanks, 

 

i was searching for clarification of the definitions of the 2 items

 

the Visa is the Stamp in the Passport

 

and the Permission to stay is the sticker..

 

or maybe i am wrong....

 

it seems to me that going to Savannakhet would be easier or more still. Just paying a lawyer to deal with the hole thing. there is not a chance we would use the Village leader for anything as it would be hard to drag him away from the microphone, plus a few more reasons. 

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, shaemus said:

the Visa is the Stamp in the Passport

 

and the Permission to stay is the sticker..

The sticker is your visa. 

Your permission to stay is the admitted until date on the entry stamp you got when you arrived.

[ubonjoe]

28 minutes ago, sometimewoodworker said:

6)1 local Thai person who knows you (often a village headman) with copies of his house book and ID card

That is not required at all offices. In fact very few ask for it.

[Phuket Man]

48 minutes ago, shaemus said:

there is not a chance we would use the Village leader for anything as it would be hard to drag him away from the microphone, plus a few more reasons. 

Not required at Khon Kaen.

You definitely do not need a lawyer or an agent.

Pop along to KK Immigration and ask them what you will need.

They are very helpful.

 

[Phuket Man]

A Visa from Savanakhet requires no financial proof but would need you to leave Thailand every 90 days.

An extension of stay from Immigration requires financial proof but you can stay for 12 months without leaving the country.

 

The choice is yours.

[sometimewoodworker]

51 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

1 hour ago, sometimewoodworker said:

6)1 local Thai person who knows you (often a village headman) with copies of his house book and ID card

That is not required at all offices. In fact very few ask for it.

 

I apreciate that point I was going from my recent experience in Udon Thani, an office that is usually quite relaxed and reasonably fast.

[Tanoshi]

1 hour ago, shaemus said:

i was searching for clarification of the definitions of the 2 items

 

the Visa is the Stamp in the Passport

 

and the Permission to stay is the sticker..

 

Maybe this will help.

http://www.mfa.go.th/main/en/services/4908/15405-General-information.html 

Please note that the period of visa validity is different from the period of stay.  Visa validity is the period during which a visa can be used to enter Thailand.  In general, the validity of a visa is 3 months, but in some cases, visas may be issued to be valid for 6 months, 1 year or 3 years.  The validity of a visa is granted with discretion by the Royal Thai Embassy or Royal Thai Consulate-General and is displayed on the visa sticker. 

On the other hand, the period of stay is granted by an immigration officer upon arrival at the port of entry and in accordance with the type of visa.  For example, the period of stay for a transit visa is not exceeding 30 days, for a tourist visa is not exceeding 60 days and for a non-immigrant visa is not exceeding 90 days from the arrival date.  The period of stay granted by the immigration officer is displayed on the arrival stamp.  Travellers who wish to stay longer than such period may apply for extension of stay at offices of the Immigration Bureau

[Russell17au]

I did my Single Entry Non-Imm "O" in Vientiane and my extension on the basis of marriage in December last year at Khon Kaen.

What was needed then was:

My wife had to be present with me for the application.

1: Passport plus signed copy

2: Marriage Certificate plus signed copy

3: Kor Ror 2 plus signed copy (mine was only 6 weeks old but I was sent to get an updated one from Amphur office)

4: wife's ID and signed copy

5: wife's house book and signed copy

6: hand draw street map of access to house

7: Proof of finance,

If using income then you require a Statutory Declaration from the Australian Embassy in Bangkok (1700B).

If using bank account then money must be seasoned for 2 months before your application for your extension and you must obtain a letter from the bank with a signed stamped copy of your bank book.

8: 6 photos of you and your wife. 1 photo must be of you both together outside your house showing the number of your house, then the remainder of the photos are inside your house with you and your wife together but you must wear different clothes in each of the photos inside the house.

9: 2 local witnesses that know you to verify that you are actually living as husband and wife. These 2 witnesses will be interviewed by Immigration.

We did have a visit to our home by the Immigration investigator that handled our application who also took extra photo's including photo's of us with him inside the house.

Really it was easy, the staff at Khon Kaen office is much like Udon, They are very good.

I am due next month to apply for my renewal of my extension.

[shaemus]

On 10/5/2018 at 12:23 AM, Russell17au said:

I did my Single Entry Non-Imm "O" in Vientiane and my extension on the basis of marriage in December last year at Khon Kaen.

What was needed then was:

My wife had to be present with me for the application.

1: Passport plus signed copy

2: Marriage Certificate plus signed copy

3: Kor Ror 2 plus signed copy (mine was only 6 weeks old but I was sent to get an updated one from Amphur office)

4: wife's ID and signed copy

5: wife's house book and signed copy

6: hand draw street map of access to house

7: Proof of finance,

If using income then you require a Statutory Declaration from the Australian Embassy in Bangkok (1700B).

If using bank account then money must be seasoned for 2 months before your application for your extension and you must obtain a letter from the bank with a signed stamped copy of your bank book.

8: 6 photos of you and your wife. 1 photo must be of you both together outside your house showing the number of your house, then the remainder of the photos are inside your house with you and your wife together but you must wear different clothes in each of the photos inside the house.

9: 2 local witnesses that know you to verify that you are actually living as husband and wife. These 2 witnesses will be interviewed by Immigration.

We did have a visit to our home by the Immigration investigator that handled our application who also took extra photo's including photo's of us with him inside the house.

Really it was easy, the staff at Khon Kaen office is much like Udon, They are very good.

I am due next month to apply for my renewal of my extension.

Many thanks for the info. Very helpful.

 

I did a visa run to Laos the other day. I can apply for my years extension after 45 days. Whilst I was in Kk I popped. Into immigration and got myself a multiple entry travel permit.

 

I am curious as to whether or not I could have done this in Vientiane.

 

Thanks again for the detailed reply

[ubonjoe]

9 minutes ago, shaemus said:

I did a visa run to Laos the other day. I can apply for my years extension after 45 days. Whilst I was in Kk I popped. Into immigration and got myself a multiple entry travel permit.

I assume got a multiple re-entry permit that will only be valid up to date your current permit to stay ends.

What is the admitted until date on your entry stamp? What kind of visa do your have?

9 minutes ago, shaemus said:

I am curious as to whether or not I could have done this in Vientiane.

Only immigration can issue re-entry permits.

[shaemus]

13 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

I assume got a multiple re-entry permit that will only be valid up to date your current permit to stay ends.

What is the admitted until date on your entry stamp? What kind of visa do your have?

Only immigration can issue re-entry permits.

I have a Non O based on marriage. I had to get a fresh stamp as the visa expired on the 18 of Oct. Current stay ends in January. I needed the multiple entry so I can leave and go to work should I require. 

 

I am now curious about the stat Dec I can do at the Aus consulate. What info do they require for proof of finance? 

 

Thanks again all

 

https://thailand.embassy.gov.au/bkok/Notarial_Services.html

 

 

 

I just answered my own question. 

[Phuket Man]

15 minutes ago, shaemus said:

I have a Non O based on marriage. I had to get a fresh stamp as the visa expired on the 18 of Oct. Current stay ends in January. I needed the multiple entry so I can leave and go to work should I require. 

 

I am now curious about the stat Dec I can do at the Aus consulate. What info do they require for proof of finance? 

 

Thanks again all

 

https://thailand.embassy.gov.au/bkok/Notarial_Services.html

 

 

 

I just answered my own question. 

They don't require any proof.

That is assuming  they are will still be offering this service in a few months time.

[ubonjoe]

18 minutes ago, shaemus said:

I am now curious about the stat Dec I can do at the Aus consulate. What info do they require for proof of finance? 

They don't require any. They removed the requirement shortly after it was posted on the website.

 

[shaemus]

5 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

They don't require any. They removed the requirement shortly after it was posted on the website.

 

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