After fight that split U.S., Kavanaugh wins place on Supreme Court

[sirineou]

2 minutes ago, Mikeasq60 said:

You talking about the sexual predator former president Bill Clinton. Wheres his scrutiny, the guys a bum. Crickets from the left.

Bill Clinton is nominated for the supreme Court?

[Morch]

3 hours ago, farcanell said:

Problem is... this is what the rabid right doesn’t understand, or choose to ignore, when “winning” is the ultimate goal, vs the concept of serving the people, regardless of the cost

 

Yes, but on the other hand, I do agree that if the tables were turned, the current opposition would be quite willing to push its own partisan agendas. They might do so more "politely", but nevertheless.... Partisanship is a serious issue for the US, and there doesn't seem to be much of a cure on the horizon.

[DavidB1960]

7 hours ago, CanuckThai said:

Not that they want any money, fame or media attention,

What are you talking about?

book deal on the way, then movie rights.....

[utalkin2me]

Assuming he is a man of his word, I suppose we can look foward to the injustices he seemed to want to take part in during his testimony: "what goes around comes around". 

 

I can't think of any worse judge than one who has publicly stated he will use his position to unjustly accuse opponents of crimes. But, that is what he did, and there he sits. 

[farcanell]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

 

2. If you dont understand why I mentioned Harry Reid, then you shouldnt have raised procedural issues

Oh, I read the procedural stuff... and surely you don’t think I wouldn’t have quickly googled Reid, before replying....

 

I think your simply defecting to by pointing a finger at someone else and saying but what about... who cares what about.

 

once upon a time, there was no law West of the pesos.... once upon a time,... etc.... way back when... how about today?

 

reid didn’t filibuster... ok... not fillibusting allowed the republicans to change the voting criteria... ok.... these things, or variants thereof, aren’t really a great issue.... republicans still changed stuff for their benefit.

 

 

if you have a specific point to make, perhaps you should be clearer than asking something like... have you ever heard of Harry Potter? because without context, or the ability to mind read, it’s hard to actually see where your going vs the clarity afforded by a sensible question chewbacker.

[DM07]

1 hour ago, Nyezhov said:

No because I see Merrick Garland as having nothing to do with the issue at hand. Im sad because you dont realize that.

 

1. Its called irony.

2. If you dont understand why I mentioned Harry Reid, then you shouldnt have raised procedural issues

So as per usual, you a) didn't bother to read, what I was answering to and hinting at or b ) you are hiding the fact, that you don't understand it, behind big words and flowery sentences! 

Nothing new here! 

Edited October 7, 2018 by DM07

[David Walden]

1 hour ago, farcanell said:

The real story, as far as I’m concerned, as an outsider looking in, is the trending decisions and attitudes of the current administrations.

 

kavanaugh... plus another republican justice, if another is needed, is a non issue.... its about the WH supporting and promoting division....division in justice nominations... in world trade... in international treaties... in attitudes to women... in unilateral actions that impact both enemies and allies... in applying sanctions against others.... you have a proven liar in chief, who is loosing the trust of the world and creating instability.... that’s the real story

 

who really cares if Clinton got a consensual blow job.... a non issue

 

europe? Even less of an issue.

From another outsider from the land of Aus (=Australia).  I have changed my view about Trump I thought he was an idiot when elected (perhaps still is) but I'm not so sure now.  The wall is going up (soon) the US dollar is going up ( I hate it ).  Seems to be sorting out the North Korea issues, a bit of trade will fix that.  Banks are starting to pay interest in the US and Thai Bht is going up and sending Aussie dollar down (blast).  The economy is looking better.  It looks like the 2 best Presidents you have had in recent times Clinton and Trump appreciate that warm lovely fuzzy feeling that can only provided by a woman for a man and the other way around ( that needs to get back on track).  It has always been that 10% of people in the world prefer partners from their own gender, we can live with that nothing new there, so what is new.  Another 2 years and you can have another go at sorting out who will lead your country.  The biggest problem in that in the US is that you have too many educated people and many of them want to be President and will stop at nothing.

Edited October 7, 2018 by David Walden

[Becker]

54 minutes ago, DavidB1960 said:

What are you talking about?

book deal on the way, then movie rights.....

Contracts already written? Please provide a link or slink back under your bridge. 

[Nyezhov]

14 minutes ago, DM07 said:

So as per usual, you a) didn't bother to read, what I was answering to and hinting at or b ) you are hiding the fact, that you don't understand it, behind big words and flowery sentences! 

Nothing new here! 

In other words...you cant respond.

 

21 minutes ago, farcanell said:

you have a specific point to make, perhaps you should be clearer than asking something like... have you ever heard of Harry Potter? because without context, or the ability to mind read, it’s hard to actually see where your going vs the clarity afforded by a sensible question chewbacker.

In other words, you cant respond either.

 

I set forth a whole series of questions that remain unanswered. Ce la vie

[Lacessit]

8 hours ago, CanuckThai said:

Well, I hope I'm not brought in front of a court of law, for an ass I might have pinched when I was in my teens.  To be accused of being some sort of miscreant, sexual predator, or rapist, based on a 20-30-40 yr memory of a woman feeling scorned by life, will have courts/media brimming with juicy accusations and filings.  Not that they want any money, fame or media attention, purely seeking social justice of course.

It's not very likely you are going to be confirmed as a Supreme Court judge, so I suggest you stop worrying.

[Lacessit]

9 hours ago, pmarlin said:

Now this some pure fiction here. You can't back up any of this.

There's a Latin term in jurisprudence, "Res ipsa loquitor". Translated, "The thing speaks for itself". It means the fact the FBI did not interview any of the complainants by definition means the investigation was limited.

[DM07]

16 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

In other words...you cant respond.

 

In other words, you cant respond either.

 

I set forth a whole series of questions that remain unanswered. Ce la vie

Respond to what?

You didn't ask anything, nor did you make any valid point!

So...good evening!

[farcanell]

14 minutes ago, Nyezhov said:

In other words...you cant respond.

 

In other words, you cant respond either.

 

I set forth a whole series of questions that remain unanswered. Ce la vie

So... having just quickly scanned through the seven pages on this thread, I fail to see “a whole series of questions” so that “they” are unanswered, doesn’t surprise me.

 

you deflect and answer by saying “ you can’t respond”

 

pathetic at best.... reiterate unanswered questions, and I will happily respond.... although I might use your tactics, unless you’ve patented them

 

 

[Dumbastheycome]

If  not the "Civil War' then at very least the  war of  civility has  not  ceased !lol????

[Nyezhov]

13 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

There's a Latin term in jurisprudence, "Res ipsa loquitor". Translated, "The thing speaks for itself". It means the fact the FBI did not interview any of the complainants by definition means the investigation was limited.

No it means that the agents determined that interviewing a person who already testified under oath would be a waste of resources OR alternatively, were CORRECTLY prevented from doing so by the "complainants" counsel.

 

 

[farcanell]

1 hour ago, David Walden said:

From another outsider from the land of Aus (=Australia).  I have changed my view about Trump I thought he was an idiot when elected (perhaps still is) but I'm not so sure now. 

Lmao.... I had the flip side of that.

 

during trumps first 100 days, I repeatedly posted that he should be given the first 100 days without all the attack attack attack.... not believing that the American people’s would elect an idiot.

 

Now I freely admit my mistake.

[Penicillin]

12 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Guilty or innocent of the sexual assault charges is a mute point as it cant be proven or disproved.

What I found disappointing was the un judge like behaviour during the process to see if he would make a good judge, a judge should be above emotion, anger, outrage etc. (the blindfold on the statue of justice).

What happens in a couple of years when the guy is deciding an important legal issue and he lets emotion. anger, outrage enter the decision making.

 

Judges are not punching bags nor should they be treated as such as was the case here. 

[Tug]

He is wayyyy to partisan to sit on the Supreme Court it is a blow to all Americans this man was seated the sexual allegations have not been properly investigated that being said you can’t hang a guy on an allegation but quoting (you democrats have sown the wind and now you shal reap the whorl wind) that’s a quote from bomber Harris that’s partisan big time

[Trouble]

13 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

We know it was limited because Trump was caught limiting it.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/05/us/politics/trump-kavanaugh-fbi.html

 

Read the article you referenced.  The scope was limited to the sexual allegations which are at the center of the controversy.  As the article stated, the FBI can't go rummaging around into a persons life endlessly looking until it finds something else.  It has to stick to the allegations made.  Further what possible use would there be to interviewing Ford or Kavanaugh again.  Her lawyers are upset.  Maybe they should be happy as she is such a flaky witness she might  not recall things she has already testified to in the Senate hearings and make more of an issue out of her sketchy memory.  The fact that her former boyfriend issued a statement about her giving some details about her character and the fact that her girlfriend (the former FBI agent who Ford coached for a polygraph but claims she did not) seems to be at the center of helping Ford write her original letter seem to cast some doubt on the veracity of Fords allegations. Ford came off too me a shaky witness at best. Put her on a real witness stand and she would have collapsed. I honestly feel sorry for Ford but if nothing else is taken from this episode, it is that women better speak up at the time or forget it because bringing up something 35 years later without proof is not going to cut it. 

[Srinivas]

12 minutes ago, Trouble said:

Ford came off too me a shaky witness at best. Put her on a real witness stand and she would have collapsed. I honestly feel sorry for Ford but if nothing else is taken from this episode, it is that women better speak up at the time or forget it because bringing up something 35 years later without proof is not going to cut it. 

Especially if you're going to do a creepy little girl voice act with conveniently selective fear of flying and selective memory on top. ????

 

 

[lostlink]

Kavanaugh should have been seated weeks ago.

 

The Democrat "wrap-up smear" didn't work.

 

[howbri]

On 10/7/2018 at 6:31 AM, lovelomsak said:

I cannot understand the mentality of most Americans.

  A woman alleges a man sexually assaulted her makes problems for the country and divides the country. The man is found innocent  of allegations. But the man is still to blame for the problems crated. What a bunch of  crap.

  Ford should be held accountable for the damage she did to the unity of her country. She caused the trouble  that divided America and is not held accountable. But no still every one goes after Kavanagh. Pure bullying of men.Also the lowest politics can go.

 

Ford was a tool "used" by the lying, corrupt democrats to further corrupt our judicial system. Justice won out over leftist mob rule.

[Ahab]

17 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

It seems you didn't understand it. Are you by any chance a Trump supporter?

Did not vote for him. He says things that I would not. He exaggerates and gets things wrong. However, I like what he is doing on trade, the economy, reducing government red tape and regulations, the supreme court and other lower court picks, and not getting America involved in any more conflicts. I also love to watch him at campaign rallies, he cracks me up and talks like a normal person.

 

He is also very likely to be re-elected in two years as long as the economy doesn't tank. So the short answer, yeah I like him (let the European trashing begin).

[Ahab]

8 hours ago, Tug said:

He is wayyyy to partisan to sit on the Supreme Court it is a blow to all Americans this man was seated the sexual allegations have not been properly investigated that being said you can’t hang a guy on an allegation but quoting (you democrats have sown the wind and now you shal reap the whorl wind) that’s a quote from bomber Harris that’s partisan big time

But Justice Ginsburg, Justice Sotomayer, and Justice Kagen are not partisan if you in the left.

 

She had zero evidence supporting her claim, every witness she said was there said it did not happen, she refused to turn over therapy records that she said supported her version of events, but we are supposed to believe her. The sexual assault has been investigated as well as any uncorroborated, nearly four decade old, accusation can be investigated. You need to at least have some shred of evidence or a pattern of the alleged behavior and Ms. Ford had neither. Also in the USA there is a presumption of innocence that applies to all due process and especially potential criminal charges.

 

The simple fact is that the left does not like Justice Kavanaugh because he is a strict constitutionalist and will rely on that founding document when judging whether laws are constitutional, or not. That is kind of the job description of a Supreme Court Justice, he will be a good one.

[Ahab]

18 hours ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Did you read the article which I linked in my post?

Because what you write has nothing to do with that article. Maybe you should read it to open your mind.

I actually do have an open mind, but I can also detect dribble when I read, or hear it. 

[Ahab]

10 hours ago, farcanell said:

Lmao.... I had the flip side of that.

 

during trumps first 100 days, I repeatedly posted that he should be given the first 100 days without all the attack attack attack.... not believing that the American people’s would elect an idiot.

 

Now I freely admit my mistake.

He is still entertaining and although you think him an idiot, he is getting things done that no one thought he could. So I am OK with an idiot for a President (your belief), that keeps the USA out of armed conflicts, lowers taxes, renegotiates unfair trade treaties, reduces unnecessary regulations, nominates judges that will use the constitution as a guide to rulings, and believes that the United States is a force for good in the world. I will take him any day of the week, year, or decade over a leftist that wants to see America remade in the image of Europe. Now I am sure that places in Europe are nice enough, but they have caused more problems throughout world and the USA could never duplicate the amount of death and misery even if it tried.

[AsianAtHeart]

It's just sad to see anyone who willfully lies to the public, under oath at that, occupy such a high position in government, seemingly thus rewarded by means of those lies.  A man given to intemperance and love of intoxicating beverages, who poorly governs his own emotions in speaking to others, seem unfit for any court, much less the supreme court of his country.

[CharlieH]

Off topic and responses removed.

[melvinmelvin]

5 hours ago, Ahab said:

Did not vote for him. He says things that I would not. He exaggerates and gets things wrong. However, I like what he is doing on trade, the economy, reducing government red tape and regulations, the supreme court and other lower court picks, and not getting America involved in any more conflicts. I also love to watch him at campaign rallies, he cracks me up and talks like a normal person.

 

He is also very likely to be re-elected in two years as long as the economy doesn't tank. So the short answer, yeah I like him (let the European trashing begin).

 

agree,

he has good chances of being re-elected, especially if next month goes the GOP way

[farcanell]

3 hours ago, Ahab said:

over a leftist that wants to see America remade in the image of Europe. Now I am sure that places in Europe are nice enough, but they have caused more problems throughout world and the USA could never duplicate the amount of death and misery even if it tried.

Ummm..... your constitution is based on British law... your founding fathers modeled America on Europe... and you even speak a version of English... so.... that ships sailed. Y’all need to unmake americas English / European identity.

 

your last sentence, given americas track record, perhaps starting with killing 2% of your own population during the civil war ( vs 0.3% during WW2), or its willingness (historically supported... by using them!) to use nuclear weapons, unlike other nations, is indicative of extreme ignorance

 

extreme ignorance.... which brings us back to the rest of your post, under the accepted standard of a lie in one thing is a lie in all things. (Mmmm.... before I get confused emojis... substitute lie with ignorance ????)

 

but credit were credit is due.... he is entertaining.