Chevrolet Change oil change times but why?

[kannot]

1 hour ago, transam said:

Folk look at HP numbers but don't look at torque (grunt) at LOW rpm where a truck wants it....????

Which is where the Isusu 1.9 is  lacking but people only see what they want to see

[kannot]

1 hour ago, Issanman said:

This is what they put in my 2017 High Country Storm earlier this year at Chevrolet in Udorn Thani:

The tag they put on the steering wheel says to return in 9 months or after adding an additional 15000 km.

Checking the dipstick tells me that it is using no oil.

My truck currently has 18500 km on it. The computer says that my average fuel economy is about 13.5 km/liter.

Thanks, wonder if theyll try to promote their new "service schedule" to you?

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, Issanman said:

This is what they put in my 2017 High Country Storm earlier this year at Chevrolet in Udorn Thani:

 

The tag they put on the steering wheel says to return in 9 months or after adding an additional 15000 km.

Checking the dipstick tells me that it is using no oil.

My truck currently has 18500 km on it. The computer says that my average fuel economy is about 13.5 km/liter.

It gets to 40 + air temperatures sometimes even hotter in direct sun, so I prefer a 5w40 or 10w40 fully synthetic oil. 

[kannot]

7 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

It gets to 40 + air temperatures sometimes even hotter in direct sun, so I prefer a 5w40 or 10w40 fully synthetic oil. 

Ive already asked them if I can use the fully synth 10w40 as  opposed to their 15w40 non synthetic, despite them saying its a semi synth their website shows it as "mineral oil"

The Fully synth non dexos is GM Tech SSS diesel, they have removed the oil cap "dexos2" use only in Australian models and changed the handbook to 15w40 but thats  the 2.8 model

[kannot]

7 hours ago, KittenKong said:

Maybe in AUS people dont overload their pickups with 10 tons of pineapples and the entire family sitting on top as they do here? Maybe in AUS overall usage is more sensible?

That would invalidate any warranty anyway and they wouldnt be concerned about that, its  just a  way to give dealers more work as I can see no other reason to change the interval to 10k from 15k

[kannot]

So asked  Vietnam Chevvy,  for their intervals 2.5 and 2.8 engines, its  pretty obvious the service interval has been changed for purely more dealer work for them in Thailand, Vietnam same climate as Thailand same "overloading" of vehicles guaranteed (Kitten Kong)

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your enquiry.

Please see below our standard schedule for Chevrolet Colorado maintenance and oil change. Depending on the condition of the vehicle, our authorized dealer may suggest you to conduct oil change earlier than standard timings.

[gunderhill]

22 hours ago, transam said:

Folk look at HP numbers but don't look at torque (grunt) at LOW rpm where a truck wants it....????

Well if you take the 2.5 Colorado at 180hp and 440nm and Toyotas 2.4  150hp and 400nm I think he has  a  point.

That's an  apples for apples basis although there is the 2.8 Toyota but then you'd  have nothing to compare that directly with unless you go to the Colorado's 2.8 (not currently offered in Thailand) which is 500nm and 200hp.

[gunderhill]

19 hours ago, kannot said:

So asked  Vietnam Chevvy,  for their intervals 2.5 and 2.8 engines, its  pretty obvious the service interval has been changed for purely more dealer work for them in Thailand, Vietnam same climate as Thailand same "overloading" of vehicles guaranteed (Kitten Kong)

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your enquiry.

Please see below our standard schedule for Chevrolet Colorado maintenance and oil change. Depending on the condition of the vehicle, our authorized dealer may suggest you to conduct oil change earlier than standard timings.

It does  appear Chevrolet are trying to increase work for dealers when you see these  figures especially as the Vietnamese interval is 12000 kms for the same oils in both cases and both models 2.8 and 2.5. and all Thai built.

[kannot]

Chevrolets answer as of today re WARRANTY and SERVICE intervals ...........end of discussion on warranty service interval times.

15k interval is FINE to all the people who said not.

Now  all I want is for them to bring the 2.8 back they used to have until 2016 and  still sold in surrounding countries Australia and America.

 

Dear Valued customer,

You can do the service every 15,000km by using Dexos 2 and if you use the engine oil which has standard's GM.
The warranty is ok for that. 

[gunderhill]

2 hours ago, gunderhill said:

It does  appear Chevrolet are trying to increase work for dealers when you see these  figures especially as the Vietnamese interval is 12000 kms for the same oils in both cases and both models 2.8 and 2.5. and all Thai built.

My Bad, 12  months 20000km not 12000km, anyway seems OP has his answer.

[KittenKong]

38 minutes ago, kannot said:

Chevrolets answer as of today re WARRANTY and SERVICE intervals ...........end of discussion on warranty service interval times. 

15k interval is FINE to all the people who said not.

I would only accept that to be correct if it clearly said so in the warranty pages of the service book. Also it doesnt address the time element of the service period at all.

 

But you are welcome to believe what they put in emails if you wish. Good luck.

[transam]

2 hours ago, gunderhill said:

Well if you take the 2.5 Colorado at 180hp and 440nm and Toyotas 2.4  150hp and 400nm I think he has  a  point.

That's an  apples for apples basis although there is the 2.8 Toyota but then you'd  have nothing to compare that directly with unless you go to the Colorado's 2.8 (not currently offered in Thailand) which is 500nm and 200hp.

My point was that advertised HP is just the result of an equation. The thing that does the work in that equation is the torque. A diesel truck is designed for work and so the high torque numbers coming in at low rpm for me is great. No use having to rev the nuts off the thing to do it's job.

 

For instance, my 3.0 Vigo max torque is there from 1400 to 3600 rpm, that is the idea rpm range for a work ride..Especially my auto trans...????

 

If I was looking for a ride I would first look at the low rpm torque numbers..

[zaZa9]

Just as aside , I was talking about a late model Chev Trailblazer to a Chev mechanic I actually trust and he said it wasnt his , it was his friends and it was on the market. When I asked how much , he said he wouldnt sell it to anyone he knew , as that model ,  "Have too many faulty thing , not good model !"

[gunderhill]

1 hour ago, transam said:

My point was that advertised HP is just the result of an equation. The thing that does the work in that equation is the torque. A diesel truck is designed for work and so the high torque numbers coming in at low rpm for me is great. No use having to rev the nuts off the thing to do it's job.

 

For instance, my 3.0 Vigo max torque is there from 1400 to 3600 rpm, that is the idea rpm range for a work ride..Especially my auto trans...????

 

If I was looking for a ride I would first look at the low rpm torque numbers..

I do understand how it works.

[kannot]

13 minutes ago, zaZa9 said:

Just as aside , I was talking about a late model Chev Trailblazer to a Chev mechanic I actually trust and he said it wasnt his , it was his friends and it was on the market. When I asked how much , he said he wouldnt sell it to anyone he knew , as that model ,  "Have too many faulty thing , not good model !"

Some more specifics would be nice?

When you say "late  model" what year would that be as major changes were done in 2016.

[kannot]

2 hours ago, KittenKong said:

I would only accept that to be correct if it clearly said so in the warranty pages of the service book. Also it doesnt address the time element of the service period at all.

 

But you are welcome to believe what they put in emails if you wish. Good luck.

If (and thats a big  if at the moment) I buy, I will get written confirmation from the dealer I buy from as well as that from Chevrolet I never accept any oral confirmation, the old interval was 15k and 9  months and thats what they say they can do with the new  model year 2019 if I use the synthetic.

 

 

[kannot]

1 hour ago, transam said:

My point was that advertised HP is just the result of an equation. The thing that does the work in that equation is the torque. A diesel truck is designed for work and so the high torque numbers coming in at low rpm for me is great. No use having to rev the nuts off the thing to do it's job.

 

For instance, my 3.0 Vigo max torque is there from 1400 to 3600 rpm, that is the idea rpm range for a work ride..Especially my auto trans...????

 

If I was looking for a ride I would first look at the low rpm torque numbers..

Ive  looked at everything am well aware of Torque V Bhps, Bhp for top speeds, Max  torque is from 1600 to 2800 rpm 440nm pretty decent.

[transam]

I really don't understand blokes buying rides with daft issues....Can buy a Toyota or Isuzu and just drive it...

The Toyota and Isuzu have adjustable driver seat and steering wheel...Unless you are a die hard drag racer the all do their job...Reliability remains with Toyota and Isuzu....FACT...

[Lacessit]

Buy a Hilux diesel and fit an aftermarket turbo on it.

IMHO Fords and Chevvies are a bit like Russian Roulette.

[kannot]

2 minutes ago, transam said:

I really don't understand blokes buying rides with daft issues....Can buy a Toyota or Isuzu and just drive it...

The Toyota and Isuzu have adjustable driver seat and steering wheel...Unless you are a die hard drag racer the all do their job...Reliability remains with Toyota and Isuzu....FACT...

Whats the daft issue? that I dont like the look of the Toyota or Isuzu or that I dont want short unnecessary  service intervals?  Youve already said that they are all much of a muchness these days earlier, so for me styling and service intervals are important issues.

Thankfully Thailand doesnt have DPf in the Toyota as they are having huge failure rates with that in Oz.

[kannot]

2 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Buy a Hilux diesel and fit an aftermarket turbo on it.

IMHO Fords and Chevvies are a bit like Russian Roulette.

Dont like them too boring.

[Billthekiwi]

Hi.

My advice is to continue to use Dexos2 5W-30 fully synthetic oil.

There is a world of difference between it and 15W-40 semi.

 

To me it is just crap compared to Dexos2.

 

Just don't do it. I could wax on about the technical differences but I will hold off.

 

Why can I say this? I am a tradesman auto parts guy from Australia.

 

Holden (GM) and Ford were my specialist areas. I was 2IC Counter sales for the largest dealership (not selling cars) in Australia.

 

What does your handbook say? Take a look before you buy.

Because no dealer can overule what the handbook says.

 

Because I am out of the loop now there may have been a technical issue with the engine type and they thought it better to reduce the service interval.

 

If you are going to spend 1.2 million it's best to follow the 10k interval advice but don't do the cheap oil.

 

The 5W oil protects your engine better because it moves around the engine faster on start up. Plus a whole lot of other benefits from it's quality.

 

It also gives better fuel economy.

I got 1 or 2 litres per 100 kms fuel savings by changing from 10W to 5W oil.

Of course I paid a lot less than you will for the oil.

 

I always changed early and no vehicle of mine has ever failed. I even use the best fully synthetic trani oils too.

[kannot]

3 minutes ago, Billthekiwi said:

Hi.

My advice is to continue to use Dexos2 5W-30 fully synthetic oil.

There is a world of difference between it and 15W-40 semi.

 

To me it is just crap compared to Dexos2.

 

Just don't do it. I could wax on about the technical differences but I will hold off.

 

Why can I say this? I am a tradesman auto parts guy from Australia.

 

Holden (GM) and Ford were my specialist areas. I was 2IC Counter sales for the largest dealership (not selling cars) in Australia.

 

What does your handbook say? Take a look before you buy.

Because no dealer can overule what the handbook says.

 

Because I am out of the loop now there may have been a technical issue with the engine type and they thought it better to reduce the service interval.

 

If you are going to spend 1.2 million it's best to follow the 10k interval advice but don't do the cheap oil.

 

The 5W oil protects your engine better because it moves around the engine faster on start up. Plus a whole lot of other benefits from it's quality.

 

It also gives better fuel economy.

I got 1 or 2 litres per 100 kms fuel savings by changing from 10W to 5W oil.

Of course I paid a lot less than you will for the oil.

 

I always changed early and no vehicle of mine has ever failed. I even use the best fully synthetic trani oils too.

Thanks Ill checkout  the handbook when I call round to the dealers "before" buying.

What reliability issues did you have? read about some 2.8s drinking oil down to batch of poor  bores piston rings clearances etc

[kannot]

1 minute ago, kannot said:

Because I am out of the loop now there may have been a technical issue with the engine type and they thought it better to reduce the service interval.

Maybe but they dont/wont say and neighbouring countries s till go 20ks for service on Dexos 2 and they are made in Thailand exactly the same and tell me 15k changes with Dexos 2  type is ok.

[transam]

25 minutes ago, kannot said:

Whats the daft issue? that I dont like the look of the Toyota or Isuzu or that I dont want short unnecessary  service intervals?  Youve already said that they are all much of a muchness these days earlier, so for me styling and service intervals are important issues.

Thankfully Thailand doesnt have DPf in the Toyota as they are having huge failure rates with that in Oz.

Toyota does not have service issues in LOS...There are no reported big issues with them in LOS regarding trucks...I cannot understand folk buying stuff with question marks in LOS, you are not in the USA, you are in LOS....

[kannot]

7 minutes ago, transam said:

Toyota does not have service issues in LOS...There are no reported big issues with them in LOS regarding trucks...I cannot understand folk buying stuff with question marks in LOS, you are not in the USA, you are in LOS....

I mentioned Australia not USA, "Oz" ....being a Brit I thought you  might have known that but thats my  fault for not spelling it in full, totally different engines there in America inc a nice v6,

You mentioned "Toyota reliability", YES I AGREE , but they do have a big  issue with DPF  filters right now in Australia just  pointing out they arent indestructable or fallible and by all account doing bugger  all about it, this is  commenting on "reliability" only and " In general" and Ive already said Toyota treat me well with the current Hilux but the  Revo is ferk ugly

PS.............I know where I am????

Theres no "real" question mark over the Chevvy pick up for me   except the service interval they changed for no apparent reason, hence the topic "why".

If I can do the old service interval and time its fine. Chevvy say I can.

https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/toyota-refuses-to-fix-hilux-fault-118750

[kannot]

Berrima Diesel Service - The Diesel Experts added 3 new photos from 18 March — feeling shocked at Berrima Diesel Service - The Diesel Experts.

 

18 March · Berrima, NSW, Australia · 

 

 · 

TOYOTA RECALL?- Diesel Particulate Filter problems in Hilux, Prado and Fortuner

Could this be the Official word! We've been posting up loudly the issues OUR customers that come to us have been having. Finally..... are Toyota are fixing what could only be called a disregard for Australian Warranty Laws?? Failing DPFs on the Hilux, Prado and Fortuner range of the new common rail 2.8 Diesels. We have loads of customers that we don't even know, calling by the shop asking for help!

One week back we had a customer drop by. One of many we get in our shop that drop in for a chat. He told us the problem story he had had with his 2.8 with DPF. He'd had 3 DPF replacements and still playing up. He also showed us a letter that "looked like" a recall notice explaining that they have been experiencing 'some minor issues' and that the 'fix' will entail a 'reflash of the ECU Engine computer (ooppss there goes any remap tune you just had done), and this time, the installation of a 'manual DPF burn button'.

If you own a Toyota equipped with a DPF DIesel Particulate Filter then you may want to call your dealer on Monday morning to ask them, "Please tell me about the recall for my Toyota 2.8..."

You might want to alert https://www.facebook.com/lemonlaws4aus/… if your on the 3rd or 4th DPF like a lot are.

It might be worth alerting the EPA #EPA as the pollution pouring out is akin to worse than the VW scandal. Lets face it this means your ADR compliant vehicle is breaking the law.

Better yet contact Toyota themselves and let them know if you're having issues www.facebook.com/toyota.aus/ and if you don't have any luck there you can always contact the ACCC https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/complaints-problems

Last time a customer spoke to us they were heading back in for their 4th "Customer Satisfaction Update"...... Interesting use of the English Language.

As the Anti-Diesel lobby groups continue to scream and cry about Diesels, we dont need companies, like Toyota, ignoring their important part in Diesel story.

Glad to finally hear, for OUR customers sake, a fix is now underway. Lets hope they get it right. The European makers so far have DPFs pretty much under control, lets hope the Japanese makers can get over these iitial issues.

######EDIT#####
So.... we have seen the usual sideline screamers all crying 'fowl' over this post. Yet from looking through the thousands of comments we see many owners who have had this 'latest fix' done or are booked in to get it done. Of course, as usual, many people screaming that they called the dealer and maker who both denied any issues or special fixes. Some dealers saying "if you ask for the manual burn button you get one". Hmmm since when is the owner of a vehicle equipped with enough skill to decide if they need a manual DPF burn button or not? Let alone if they even know what its for. How crazy?
Meanwhile back in the World of Reality for the owners suffering under 3 or 4 DPF replacements, they stay confused and suffering.
Thank you to the customer who showed us his letter.
To the many Toyota techs on this thread that have commented and stated there is a fix and it includes a manual burn button, thanks for the confirmations.
To the many suffering owners still trying to get their failing DPF fixed keep up the pressure, like we are doing, on the manufacturer and dealer.
Call the ACCC or the EPA and see what they say?

W: www.berrimadiesel.com

[transam]

1 minute ago, kannot said:

I mentioned Australia not USA, "Oz" ....being a Brit I thought you  might have known that but thats my  fault for not spelling it in full, totally different engines there in America inc a nice v6,

You mentioned "Toyota reliability", YES I AGREE , but they do have a big  issue with DPF  filters right now in Australia just  pointing out they arent indestructable or fallible and by all account doing bugger  all about it, this is  commenting on "reliability" only and " In general" and Ive already said Toyota treat me well with the current Hilux but the  Revo is ferk ugly

PS.............I know where I am????

Theres no "real" question mark over the Chevvy pick up for me   except the service interval they changed for no apparent reason, hence the topic "why".

If I can do the old service interval and time its fine. Chevvy say I can.

https://www.drive.com.au/motor-news/toyota-refuses-to-fix-hilux-fault-118750

Please don't post links related to Oz fixtures  when we are dealing with LOS ride stuff...????..

[transam]

2 minutes ago, kannot said:

Berrima Diesel Service - The Diesel Experts added 3 new photos from 18 March — feeling shocked at Berrima Diesel Service - The Diesel Experts.

 

18 March · Berrima, NSW, Australia · 

 

 · 

TOYOTA RECALL?- Diesel Particulate Filter problems in Hilux, Prado and Fortuner

Could this be the Official word! We've been posting up loudly the issues OUR customers that come to us have been having. Finally..... are Toyota are fixing what could only be called a disregard for Australian Warranty Laws?? Failing DPFs on the Hilux, Prado and Fortuner range of the new common rail 2.8 Diesels. We have loads of customers that we don't even know, calling by the shop asking for help!

One week back we had a customer drop by. One of many we get in our shop that drop in for a chat. He told us the problem story he had had with his 2.8 with DPF. He'd had 3 DPF replacements and still playing up. He also showed us a letter that "looked like" a recall notice explaining that they have been experiencing 'some minor issues' and that the 'fix' will entail a 'reflash of the ECU Engine computer (ooppss there goes any remap tune you just had done), and this time, the installation of a 'manual DPF burn button'.

If you own a Toyota equipped with a DPF DIesel Particulate Filter then you may want to call your dealer on Monday morning to ask them, "Please tell me about the recall for my Toyota 2.8..."

You might want to alert https://www.facebook.com/lemonlaws4aus/… if your on the 3rd or 4th DPF like a lot are.

It might be worth alerting the EPA #EPA as the pollution pouring out is akin to worse than the VW scandal. Lets face it this means your ADR compliant vehicle is breaking the law.

Better yet contact Toyota themselves and let them know if you're having issues www.facebook.com/toyota.aus/ and if you don't have any luck there you can always contact the ACCC https://www.accc.gov.au/consumers/complaints-problems

Last time a customer spoke to us they were heading back in for their 4th "Customer Satisfaction Update"...... Interesting use of the English Language.

As the Anti-Diesel lobby groups continue to scream and cry about Diesels, we dont need companies, like Toyota, ignoring their important part in Diesel story.

Glad to finally hear, for OUR customers sake, a fix is now underway. Lets hope they get it right. The European makers so far have DPFs pretty much under control, lets hope the Japanese makers can get over these iitial issues.

######EDIT#####
So.... we have seen the usual sideline screamers all crying 'fowl' over this post. Yet from looking through the thousands of comments we see many owners who have had this 'latest fix' done or are booked in to get it done. Of course, as usual, many people screaming that they called the dealer and maker who both denied any issues or special fixes. Some dealers saying "if you ask for the manual burn button you get one". Hmmm since when is the owner of a vehicle equipped with enough skill to decide if they need a manual DPF burn button or not? Let alone if they even know what its for. How crazy?
Meanwhile back in the World of Reality for the owners suffering under 3 or 4 DPF replacements, they stay confused and suffering.
Thank you to the customer who showed us his letter.
To the many Toyota techs on this thread that have commented and stated there is a fix and it includes a manual burn button, thanks for the confirmations.
To the many suffering owners still trying to get their failing DPF fixed keep up the pressure, like we are doing, on the manufacturer and dealer.
Call the ACCC or the EPA and see what they say?

W: www.berrimadiesel.com

Now show me the LOS ploblems...?

[kannot]

16 minutes ago, transam said:

Please don't post links related to Oz fixtures  when we are dealing with LOS ride stuff...????..

Was talking "in general"  ( as mentioned)but im sure I could dig some ploblems up.......if u really want.

Then again as we all know you cant complain much in Thailand for the libel laws which really dont help.

All irrelevant though, I have my answer from Chevrolet.............now lets see what Ford say .....Am sure you just "cant wait" for that thread???

U may need Kwsakis spanner