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4 hours ago, webfact said:

to develop cheaper domestically produced immunotherapy cancer drugs within eight years.

eight, nine, ten, .........

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1 hour ago, Aussie999 said:

"Cancer Research Breahthrough" what bloody "breakthrough, from what I read they are only trying to produce a know product locally, or did I miss something.... wait, it's really about funds.... ah the baht.

 

You missed something, its about being able to produce the drug cheaper, ah the baht, your baht.

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46 minutes ago, mikebell said:

Now there's just malaria and rabies left for the Thais to crack.  There's much research going on in the latter field; the University is leaving rabid dogs outside a number of 7-11s.

For rabies they might get the funds soon from Holland where they're collecting money to stop rabies in poor countries...they show many very sad ad's on tv daily about soidogs who look like it's their last day alive and for sure the Dutch will donate because they can't stand the sight of dogs being treated that way....

 

 

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Thai logic at it's best - large scale production BEFORE clinical trials?
What if the trial fails?

 

It's the rice scheme all over again.

 

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4 hours ago, Darcula said:

 

I've got the solution to world hunger. Major funding needed.

Making less children doesn't require much funding. But you got the drift right.

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4 hours ago, Darcula said:

I've got the solution to world hunger. Major funding needed.

I'm working on a cure for stupidity, but I think I'll need more than 1.4 billion to crack it ????

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43 minutes ago, robblok said:

I disagree.. you must indeed go to large scale production to see if its viable and what kind of problems you run into. This is of course not as large a production as later on for sale.

 

At first there is almost no production you must scale that up for all the other tests that need to be run. I am quite sure other companies do the same. After a prototype they always start a larger scale production to see if its possible.. then after tests even larger scale.

Hmm yes, I'm not familiar with how Big Pharma works.

I suppose in this context they mean large-scale production to support (large-scale) clinical trials,

not mass-production for commercial distribution.


The timelines are way too optimistic though - they're probably looking at 10 years minimum.

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6 minutes ago, varun said:

Hmm yes, I'm not familiar with how Big Pharma works.

I suppose in this context they mean large-scale production to support (large-scale) clinical trials,

not mass-production for commercial distribution.


The timelines are way too optimistic though - they're probably looking at 10 years minimum.

Quite probably way to optimistic, can't really say anything about that. But it always takes real long to put something on the market.

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This sounds very similar to a drug tested in 2000 - Bexxar for the treatment of Non-Hodgkins Lymphoma. It was a radioactive mono-clonal drug using mouse antibodies. It was a one dose test with the trial and follow-up lasting 10 years. The end result - not a breakthrough.


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1 hour ago, Thian said:

For rabies they might get the funds soon from Holland where they're collecting money to stop rabies in poor countries...they show many very sad ad's on tv daily about soidogs who look like it's their last day alive and for sure the Dutch will donate because they can't stand the sight of dogs being treated that way....

 

 

Interesting. When I was last in Amsterdam you had to walk looking down the whole time to avoid the dog turds. I'd like to think this isn't the case any more - it was several years ago. Anyone know?

 

Sorry, this is very off-topic!

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1 hour ago, varun said:

Thai logic at it's best - large scale production BEFORE clinical trials?
What if the trial fails?

 

It's the rice scheme all over again.

 

 

likely they are just making a generic version of an already tested drug.  many cancer drugs and viral drugs are extremely expensive and are not covered by national healthcare so if you dont have cash "cest la vie"

 

the hepatitis treatment "harvoni" runs 84K usd in america. the same treatment in india about 900usd

 

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, madmitch said:

Interesting. When I was last in Amsterdam you had to walk looking down the whole time to avoid the dog turds. I'd like to think this isn't the case any more - it was several years ago. Anyone know?

 

Sorry, this is very off-topic!

Well there aren't many dogs in Amsterdam these days and it's illegal to let them shit on the streets...they even bring dogs inside the airport but for sure they're all vaccinated and registered, if you get bitten you can claim the owner and will always win..

 

 

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18 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Although they claim top 300 ranked in the world and top 50 in Asia I tend to think the Times rating more like it 800 at best and 164 in Asia

 

https://www.timeshighereducation.com/world-university-rankings/chulalongkorn-university

I would agree. Chula wouldn't compete with community colleges in the US or trade schools in Europe. Well, other than in the cuteness of the little ladies in their uniforms 

 

8 minutes ago, atyclb said:

 

likely they are just making a generic version of an already tested drug.  many cancer drugs and viral drugs are extremely expensive and are not covered by national healthcare so if you dont have cash "cest la vie"

 

the hepatitis treatment "harvoni" runs 84K usd in america. the same treatment in india about 900usd

The Indians are clever and have behemoths like Ranbaxy making legit off-label drugs. They were willing to learn from others. 

 

The Thais? Doubtful they have the expertise or necessary character do mass produce precision medicine. And, they are incapable of learning from others. 

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5 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

I would agree. Chula wouldn't compete with community colleges in the US or trade schools in Europe. Well, other than in the cuteness of the little ladies in their uniforms 

 

The Indians are clever and have behemoths like Ranbaxy making legit off-label drugs. They were willing to learn from others. 

 

The Thais? Doubtful they have the expertise or necessary character do mass produce precision medicine. And, they are incapable of learning from others. 

 

even though there are some thai's capable and some that have actually studied abroad, when they return they face their system that is often "self defeating" 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Kieran00001 said:

 

You missed something, its about being able to produce the drug cheaper, ah the baht, your baht.

Yes, it's an alleged economic breakthrough, not a medical breakthrough.

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Thai university research that gave us cures for Ebola and  HIV

Forgive me if i dont get too excited about this!

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