18 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

Whereas the MU-X comes with the dynamics of an agricultural vehicle

The MGB zs with the 1.5 can barely pull itself, but it looks good doing it . it gets 46 mpg petrol

Yet the MUX drives 7, is 4x4 and can tow 3000 kg which is two MGB zs's and do all of it at 30 mpg diesel which is cheaper than petrol  so cost per mile close.

But I will concede the ZS does make a pretty paperweight.

Edited October 28, 20187 yr by sirineou
typo

People can slag them all they like but they have been at numerous events in the past couple of years and the Thais are all over them. 

 

Edited October 28, 20187 yr by Kadilo

3 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

People can slag them all they like but they have been at numerous events in the past couple of years and the Thais are all over them. 

 

Stats for Sep 18; MG sales are 2.0% of 2.0% of passenger car market.

 

https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics/flash_sales/salesfig_thailand_2018

 

That is 674 passengers cars sold in September.

 

 

15 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The MGB zs with the 1.5 can barely pull itself, but it looks good doing it . it gets 46 mpg petrol

Yet the MUX drives 7, is 4x4 and can tow 3000 kg which is two MGB zs's and do all of it at 30 mpg diesel which is cheaper than petrol  so cost per mile close.

But I will concede the ZS does make a pretty paperweight.

I guess with ignorant comments such as that indicates the reasons you see nothing wrong in a tarted up truck. But I can see nothing wrong in farmers wanting commercial vehicles which after all is exactly what they are designed to do.

 

And this thread is about the MG3 , not farm vehicles.  Start your own thread if you wish to extoll the virtues of trucks or truck based vehicles entering towing competitions !

Just now, Esso49 said:

I guess with ignorant comments such as that indicates the reasons you see nothing wrong in a tarted up truck. But I can see nothing wrong in farmers wanting commercial vehicles which after all is exactly what they are designed to do.

 

And this thread is about the MG3 , not farm vehicles.  Start your own thread if you wish to extoll the virtues of trucks or truck based vehicles entering towing competitions !

This whole thing started with true and tried vs new and unproven, hence my comment on the MU-x, everything else came after attacks on true and tried vs new and unproven argument. Now because you cant attack my argument you attack me, 

And you call me ignorant pal ?

16 minutes ago, Briggsy said:

Stats for Sep 18; MG sales are 2.0% of 2.0% of passenger car market.

 

https://www.marklines.com/en/statistics/flash_sales/salesfig_thailand_2018

 

That is 674 passengers cars sold in September.

 

 

You can throw stats at me mate all you want. It makes not odds to me. I’m just saying what I see. 

MG are targeting a particular market and starting from nothing and doing very well. 

I have no doubt from what I see that the Thais are warming to them. 

For sure, they got a long way to go. 

5 minutes ago, sirineou said:

This whole thing started with true and tried vs new and unproven, hence my comment on the MU-x, everything else came after attacks on true and tried vs new and unproven argument. Now because you cant attack my argument you attack me, 

And you call me ignorant pal ?

And you consider that your statement " The MGB zs with the 1.5 can barely pull itself" is based on fact and your knowledge of the said vehicle ? clearly you know nothing about the vehicle at all.  For your education the meaning of ignorant is "lacking knowledge, information, or awareness about something in particular.".

1 minute ago, Kadilo said:

You can throw stats at me mate all you want. It makes not odds to me. I’m just saying what I see. 

MG are targeting a particular market and starting from nothing and doing very well. 

I have no doubt from what I see that the Thais are warming to them. 

For sure, they got a long way to go. 

I am not "throwing stats at you". I am just shedding light on the discussion. Wind your neck in.

1 minute ago, Briggsy said:

I am not "throwing stats at you". I am just shedding light on the discussion. Wind your neck in.

I wasn’t looking for an argument I was just saying what I observe. 

Apologies if it came across abrupt. No offence intended. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, Kadilo said:

I wasn’t looking for an argument I was just saying what I observe. 

Apologies if it came across abrupt. No offence intended. 

 

 

Cars, football and religion are subjects one needs to tread carefully trough LOL

Oh wait,,,, to make it Thread relevant, MG zs is aerodynamic LOL 

Edited October 28, 20187 yr by sirineou

5 minutes ago, sirineou said:

Cars, football and religion are subjects one needs to tread carefully trough LOL

Lol, yeah reading back I can see how it could of been taken wrongly hence the apology. 

Back on subject, I do see a lot of MG3’s on the road now. Seem to be particularly popular with the younger ones. I spend a lot of time around Udon and where you used to see the odd one they are every where now and MG are often in Central with a demo. The biggest attraction is the price I guess and stylish if you’re a young impressionable. 

Granted they are, and still at a very low point. 

Totally impractical out in the sticks on pot holed roads. 

Edited October 28, 20187 yr by Kadilo

1 hour ago, Esso49 said:

Whereas the MU-X comes with the dynamics of an agricultural vehicle

to bring this back in topic.

 the MG zs has a drug collision of .32 and the MU-x .39 an insignificant difference given proportions.

 

59 minutes ago, sirineou said:

The MGB zs with the 1.5 can barely pull itself, but it looks good doing it . it gets 46 mpg petrol

Yet the MUX drives 7, is 4x4 and can tow 3000 kg which is two MGB zs's and do all of it at 30 mpg diesel which is cheaper than petrol  so cost per mile close.

But I will concede the ZS does make a pretty paperweight.

Why quote mpg when juice is sold in litres and Thailand uses kilometers and the diagnostic display usually shows km/litre or litres/100km. 12 k/l = 33.75 mpg roughly. But as it is half the price of UK, it is same as getting 67 mpg !  Which leads to ,why do they quote mpg in UK, when they use litres? 

Edited October 28, 20187 yr by wgdanson

Just now, wgdanson said:

Why quote mpg when juice is sold in litres and Thailand uses kilometers and the diagnostic display usually shows km/litre or litres/100km. 12 k/l = 33.75 mpg roughly. Which leads to ,why do they quote mpg in UK, when they use litres? 

 I am American and i cant get my head around the masonic code you guys use LOL

Here is a conversion calculator link I use 

https://carrentsale.com/calculators/convert-l-100-km-to-mpg.htm 

3 minutes ago, sirineou said:

 I am American and i cant get my head around the masonic code you guys use LOL

Here is a conversion calculator link I use 

https://carrentsale.com/calculators/convert-l-100-km-to-mpg.htm 

But it all goes tits up when you Yanks have a different gallon to our Imperial one, and I think you have different length miles   lol 

 

 

Went onto your site where it says........

One american (US) Mile Per Gallon (MPG) is defined as 235.214583 liters per 100 KM (kilometers). You've either got small litres or big kilometres

I think something got lost in the mathS, short for mathematic S.

 

Edited October 28, 20187 yr by wgdanson

11 minutes ago, sirineou said:

to bring this back in topic.

 the MG zs has a drug collision of .32 and the MU-x .39 an insignificant difference given proportions.

 

Gibberish rubbish.  What is a drug collision ?   2 asprins having an accident ?  ???????????? 

 

Think you should give up trying to justify anything in this post.  If you really meant a drag coefficient then  the difference between 0.32 and 0.39 is huge when it comes to automobile aerodynamics .

 

Please stop the futility by bringing trucks or their derivatives into a car thread. This thread is specifically the MG 3 which  you now consider is also the MG ZS (above), do you actually know the difference ? !!!!

Edited October 28, 20187 yr by Esso49

3 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

This thread is specifically the MG 3 which you have now consider is also the MG ZS above, do you actually know the differance ? !!!!

About 150,000 baht. ????

Sorry couldn’t resist. 

1 minute ago, Esso49 said:

Gibberish rubbish.  What is a drug collision ?   2 asprins having an accident ?  ???????????? 

 

Think you should give up trying to justify anything in this post.  If you really meant a drag coefficient then  the difference between 0.32 and 0.39 is huge when it comes to automobile aerodynamics .

 

Please stop the futility by bringing trucks or their derivatives into a car thread. This thread is specifically the MG 3 which you have now consider is also the MG ZS above, do you actually know the differance ? !!!!

relax and be kind, so far I have being accused of giberisnes and ignorance. 

auto correct problem I did not notice . it should say drag coefficient . 

 

 

15 minutes ago, sirineou said:

to bring this back in topic.

 the MG zs has a drug collision of .32 and the MU-x .39 an insignificant difference given proportions.

 

I wonder what the drag coefficient is for both of them?

Traveling over Thailand and you will see Large MG show rooms being built everywhere, the Chinese owners are pouring a lot of money into the Thai market to promote and sell these cars. Personally I would not buy one. Prefer Japanese cars 

1 minute ago, sirineou said:

relax and be kind, so far I have being accused of giberisnes and ignorance. 

auto correct problem I did not notice . it should say drag coefficient . 

 

 

OK I will be kind.  Now just relax, have another beer and enjoy the show.  Don't take part until you feel better and fully refreshed sufficiently  to face reality again. Now have a good night, best regards.

Just now, stupidfarang said:

Traveling over Thailand and you will see Large MG show rooms being built everywhere, the Chinese owners are pouring a lot of money into the Thai market to promote and sell these cars. Personally I would not buy one. Prefer Japanese cars 

That’s what I was alluding to earlier. 

I read somewhere that the marketing is second to none. 

2 minutes ago, stupidfarang said:

Traveling over Thailand and you will see Large MG show rooms being built everywhere, the Chinese owners are pouring a lot of money into the Thai market to promote and sell these cars. Personally I would not buy one. Prefer Japanese cars 

Not to diversify to much from the MG3 thread but as it is a Chinese manufactured car are you also aware that Aston Martin partnered by a Chinese company will manufacture EV cars in China in the future ?   

MG just opened a showroom next to my work, seems to be doing brisk business, a lot of girlies driving them about town now!

12 hours ago, Esso49 said:

For your information the MG3, when launched, won a European design award in 2014. You do understand that the European crash testing, NCAP, is some of the most onerous in the world do you ? Mass produced cars such as the MG can not be sold in Europe without NCAP certification.

For your information, the MG3, when launched in 2014, scored pretty BAD for safety according the NCAP results:

https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/mg/3/7878 

3 hours ago, Kadilo said:

People can slag them all they like but they have been at numerous events in the past couple of years and the Thais are all over them. 

 

I wouldn't take that as a sign of collective intelligence. it's a bit like people who have Windows on their laptops.

4 hours ago, sirineou said:

I am looking at the Isuzu MUX , solid proven platform, reliable,bulletproof  3.0 diesel that had being around for a few years, and every mechanic is familiar with.Solid no nonsense trany. Top of the line  4x4  1.474,000 bht.

1,5 million baht, for an Isuzu??? No, thanks.

2 hours ago, wgdanson said:

Went onto your site where it says........

One american (US) Mile Per Gallon (MPG) is defined as 235.214583 liters per 100 KM (kilometers). You've either got small litres or big kilometres

I think something got lost in the mathS, short for mathematic S.

 

Though I agree with your mathS statement, I can't see much wrong with the conversion.  If you have a car that does 1 mpg (US)  you will do 0.425km/L, which uses 235.2L/100km.  At 1mpg, a 20 US gallon tank will only get you 20 miles, and a 60L tank will get you 25.5 km.  It will therefore take almost 4x 60L tanks to do 100km, and last time I was at school 4 x 60 = 240L/100km.

 

Dividing 235.2 by 30, a car that does 30 mpg (US) will use 7.8 L/100km, or get 12.8 km/L. 

 

1 US gallon = 0.832674 imperial (real) gallons.  So 1 mpg (imperial) = 282.5L/100 km, and 30 mpg (imperial) = 10.62 km/L = 9.4L/100km 

3 hours ago, sirineou said:

The MGB zs with the 1.5 can barely pull itself, but it looks good doing it . it gets 46 mpg petrol

Yet the MUX drives 7, is 4x4 and can tow 3000 kg which is two MGB zs's and do all of it at 30 mpg diesel which is cheaper than petrol  so cost per mile close.

But I will concede the ZS does make a pretty paperweight.

Diesel cheaper than Petrol??? So you don't live in Thailand I guess, since in Thailand Diesel is more expensive than gasoline:

http://www.pttplc.com/en/getoilprice.aspx

6 minutes ago, Cheops said:

1,5 million baht, for an Isuzu??? No, thanks.

It is identical to the Chevy Trailblazer LTZ 4x3 but with the 2.5 diesel that produces slightly more HP than the MU-x

Chevy has a special sale on it for 1.280.000