Leicester City football club owner's helicopter crashes outside stadium

[edwardandtubs]

16 minutes ago, Basil B said:

No reports from Leicester Royal Infirmary or ambulance control who would normally make a statement if there had been any persons treated.

 

highly unlikely anyone could walk away from that. 

I think all this speculation is a bit pointless and even distasteful. I mean, it seems very obvious what has happened. All those in the helicopter have been incinerated which makes identifying them particularly difficult. It will take time so just wait until that news comes out.

[manarak]

what's strange is that when the engine dies, a heli normally shouldn't crash immediately as it should go into autorotate.

[Basil B]

1 hour ago, irishken said:

Proper owners of a football club. Free beer, free food before some games and help give Leicester the most amazing team sports achievement in modern sports history. 

RIP to all on board. 

Yes, showing other clubs how they should be run, as far as the FA were concerned he was a "Fit and Proper Person", anyone who thinks differently is welcome to take to their soap box at Leicester market square if they really want to be the guest of honor at a lynching. 

[Media1]

5 hours ago, Thunder26 said:

Why so much secrecy about who was on the board? 

It's not confirmed that's why lol

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

The one positive is that the AAIB, Plod, Coroner, NHS etc will provide textbook 'how to' reports that might prove useful the next time an accident occurs here.

 

Rip to everyone caught up in this inc any on the ground.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/the-aaib-is-sending-a-team-to-leicester

[edwardandtubs]

3 minutes ago, Basil B said:

Yes, showing other clubs how they should be run, as far as the FA were concerned he was a "Fit and Proper Person", anyone who thinks differently is welcome to take to their soap box at Leicester market square if they really want to be the guest of honor at a lynching. 

That fit and proper test is notoriously worthless, allowing all sorts of rogues to own English clubs.

[Ctkong]

1 hour ago, Orton Rd said:

There is NO such thing as karma, if there was people like Pol Pot would not die in bed and vechai would still be here

Your manner of death in this life may or may not reflect your previous undertakings or previous karma but your current undertakings will have effect upon what you are reincarnated into in your next life. At least that is what I understand from Buddhism. 

[Rc2702]

Just now, edwardandtubs said:

I think all this speculation is a bit pointless and even distasteful. I mean, it seems very obvious what has happened. All those in the helicopter have been incinerated which makes identifying them particularly difficult. It will take time so just wait until that news comes out.

It's not distasteful. It's a very good question that seems extremely strange. News is circulating worldwide that the chairman is definitely deceased. So if that is clear why is there no other information on passengers or even an indication there were others on board. Pilot included. Odd reporting.

[Esso49]

7 minutes ago, manarak said:

what's strange is that when the engine dies, a heli normally shouldn't crash immediately as it should go into autorotate.

So clearly as a 'coptot pilot given your expertise,  what do think may have happened ?

[evadgib]

11 minutes ago, manarak said:

what's strange is that when the engine dies, a heli normally shouldn't crash immediately as it should go into autorotate.

Not if the reported loss of tail rotor proves accurate.

Edited October 28, 2018 by evadgib

[blackhorse]

So clearly as a 'coptot pilot given your expertise,  what do think may have happened ?

It wasn't high enough . You can Google "dead man's curve"

[Esso49]

2 minutes ago, blackhorse said:

4 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

So clearly as a 'coptot pilot given your expertise,  what do think may have happened ?

It wasn't high enough . You can Google "dead man's curve"

 

2 minutes ago, blackhorse said:

4 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

So clearly as a 'coptot pilot given your expertise,  what do think may have happened ?

It wasn't high enough . You can Google "dead man's curve"

I think the fact you mention songs when those currently unnamed persons who have perished in this accident is somewhat untasteful.

[manarak]

6 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

So clearly as a 'coptot pilot given your expertise,  what do think may have happened ?

got no idea beyond that.

 

but what could cause loss of engine + loss of tail rotor at the same time?

[poohy]

3 hours ago, Neeranam said:

He had hits such as, Jeepster and I'm in the mood for dancing ????

Hes actually called Marc Bolan!!

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._Rex_(band)

 

 

[ukrules]

38 minutes ago, Basil B said:

No reports from Leicester Royal Infirmary or ambulance control who would normally make a statement if there had been any persons treated.

 

highly unlikely anyone could walk away from that. 

I was up very late last night and watched some news footage of an ambulance leaving the scene what must have been 2 or 3 hours after the accident.

 

No blue lights were flashing and it was moving slow, police escort for the ambulance, also seemed to be crawling at about 20 mph.

 

They were not in any rush to get where they were going.

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by ukrules

[Esso49]

2 minutes ago, manarak said:

the fact that you rank songs higher than technical information says a lot.

Well its the only thing it could be because your technical excuse is totally irrelevant to an air disaster.  So yes you do show appalling taste attempting to distort the tone of this thread, and the tragedy involved with snide comments. But hey ho carry on posting in poor taste if it makes you feel better.

[Mavideol]

5 hours ago, gjoo888 said:

I think you're on to something. The story of the crash has been out for quite awhile, but still no news about who was onboard.

agree, it happen last night (our time zone) by now we should know more details, hope all are safe and well

[Jonathan Fairfield]

Leicester City football club owner was on crashed helicopter - BBC

 

 

LEICESTER, England (Reuters) - Leicester City football club owner Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha was on board a helicopter that crashed outside the club's stadium, the BBC reported on Sunday, quoting a source close to his family.

 

The helicopter crashed in a ball of flames in the club's car park on Saturday after a Premier League match.

 

Officials from the club and Vichai's company, duty-free giant King Power International, declined to comment on whether he was in the helicopter when it spiralled out of control and crashed around an hour after the game.

 

According to eyewitnesses, the helicopter just cleared the top of the stadium before it started to spin. It then plummeted to the ground and burst into flames.

 

A spokesman for the Midlands club said on Saturday: "We are assisting Leicestershire Police and the emergency services in dealing with a major incident at King Power Stadium."

 

John Butcher, who was near the stadium at the time of the crash, told the BBC his nephew saw the helicopter spiral out of control apparently due to a faulty rear propeller.

 

"Within a second it dropped like a stone to the floor...Luckily it did spiral for a little while and everybody sort of ran, sort of scattered. As far as we are aware nobody around the car park was caught

up in this problem."

 

In Thailand, officials at King Power said they could not yet comment on the crash or say whether Vichai had been aboard.

 

Vichai is a huge favourite with the fans after he bought the unfancied side from central England in 2010 and they went on to stun the soccer world by winning the league title in 2016.

 

According to Forbes magazine he is the fifth richest person in Thailand with an estimated net worth of $4.9 billion.

Leicestershire Police said a team from the Department for Transport's Air Accidents Investigations Branch had taken charge of the investigation into the cause of the crash.

 

ENGLISH CHAMPIONS

 

After pumping millions of pounds into the club, he helped steer them back into the top flight in 2014 before they stunned the sport by beating the likes of Manchester United, Liverpool and Chelsea to become champions of England.

 

Leading players in the side, including Jamie Vardy and Harry Maguire, sent messages of support on Twitter while rival clubs including Manchester City also voiced their concern.

 

Freelance photographer Ryan Brown was covering the game and saw the helicopter clear the stadium before it crashed, the BBC reported.

 

"Literally the engine stopped and I turned around, and it made a bit of a whirring noise," Brown told BBC Radio 5 Live. "It turned silent, blades started spinning and then there was a big bang."

 

Leicester had played a league match at home against West Ham United earlier on Saturday, drawing 1-1.

 

The self-made businessman Vichai founded Thai duty-free giant King Power in 1989.

 

The duty-free business got a big boost in 2006 when it was granted an airport monopoly under the government of then prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, and it continued to prosper even after Thaksin's ouster in a coup that year.

 

The family's empire also includes Belgian football club, Oud-Heverlee Leuven.

 

(Reporting by William Schomberg; Editing by Elaine Hardcastle)

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-10-28

[Jonathan Fairfield]

"Humble and much loved" Thai billionaire football owner feared dead in helicopter crash

 

Image: Reuters

 

Thailand woke up to news that the country's fifth richest man is feared to have perished in a helicopter crash in the car park area of Leicester City football club in the UK. 

 

Vichai Srivaddhanaprabha was said to have been on the helicopter that took off just before 3am Thai times, BBC sources reported.

 

No official confirmation has been made but several people including a woman were seen on a video apparently getting on the helicopter in the center circle of the King Power stadium after the match against West Ham. 

 

Vichai is well known to come and go to matches in a helicopter from his Berkshire base. He has owned the club since 2010 pouring millions of dollars into investment in both the football side and the local community. 

 

The sixty year old Thai is immensely well-liked in the midlands town for buying drinks and food for all supporters on occasions like his birthday and Christmas. 

 

Leicester City won the English Premiership title in 2016 in one of the greatest fairy tales in world sport history defying 5000-1 odds. 

 

Vichai was named by Forbes as Thailand's fifth richest man with a $4.9 billion dollar fortune amassed as head of duty free giants King Power and other interests, reported the UK's Daily Telegraph. 

 

Matt Davis, a representative of fans' group the Foxes Trust told the BBC early Sunday morning in the UK of the supporters' huge respect and love for the Thai owner of the club.

 

He said that investment in Leicester City as well as the community in such areas as hospitals and child care had been "phenomenal".

 

He said that Vichai was very close to the fans and had a special connection with supporters unlike other wealthy club chairmen. 

 

Despite his great wealth he said that Vichai and his family were "humble and lovely people".

 

Vichai, 60, is married and has four sons. One report in the UK said that a vice-chairman son was not at the match on Saturday. 

 

Thai Rath reported, quoting the BBC, that police had tried to break through the windows of the crashed helicopter before an explosion forced them back. 

 

Referring to the billionaire as "Sia Vichai" they too have yet to confirm that he was killed but the BBC in England said that sources said he was on the ill-fated helicopter. 

 

Videos posted to YouTube showed UK TV pundits commenting on the take-off of the helicopter behind them. Moments later the crash occurred after the helicopter was reportedly seen to hover above the ground before plunging.

 

Ominously after the flames were extinguished an ambulance was seen leaving the scene going slowly without its lights flashing.

 

No statement regarding Vichai has yet been made by either the club or King Power.

 

The match against West Ham ended 1-1 and was shown live on television in Thailand. 

 

A fan on the BBC standing outside the ground said that this was "the darkest day in Leicester City's history".

 

He said that a steady stream of tearful fans had been laying flowers and shirts outside the ground as dawn broke in the UK. 

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2018-10-28

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, Thian said:

Me think the news will come after the stockmarkets are open....so they can be the first to sell....

Enough of this conspiracy nonsense ! In the UK it is standard practice to withold the names of victims until the next of kin have been informed.

If the accident had involved a coach load of ordinary working class supporters there would also be no names released immediately .

[manarak]

10 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

Well its the only thing it could be because your technical excuse is totally irrelevant to an air disaster.  So yes you do show appalling taste attempting to distort the tone of this thread, and the tragedy involved with snide comments. But hey ho carry on posting in poor taste if it makes you feel better.

google "deadman's curve helicopter" and you will have learned something

[stevemac]

This is a modern sleek, very likely well maintained Helicopter - they don’t just fall out of the sky.

And yes as somebody said here already this investigation will be interesting.






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Unfortunately they do just fall out of the sky, and all too often. Too many moving parts and one failure can make them as aerodynamic as a brick. They were my "bus to work" for many years in the oil industry. I had 2 near misses that were really scary. My last chopper ride is already behind me fortunately. I'm in semi - retirement now just doing some contract work, but onshore only.
RIP to all those involved in this tragic incident and sympathies to all families, friends and those in the football fraternity who who'll be grieving at this time.

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[kevin612]

it is bad to hear this kind of news

[stevemac]

what's strange is that when the engine dies, a heli normally shouldn't crash immediately as it should go into autorotate.

It needs (considerable)height and action from the pilot to to this

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[Basil B]

20 minutes ago, manarak said:

what's strange is that when the engine dies, a heli normally shouldn't crash immediately as it should go into autorotate.

Yes, but forward momentum is required to stop it rotating when the tail rotor blades fail and cause the main rotor blades to continue to spin (auto-rotation) giving some form of controlled landing, the heli was taking off vertically from an enclosed area, witnesses said the heli was spinning out of control.

[Esso49]

6 minutes ago, manarak said:

google "deadman's curve helicopter" and you will have learned something

Clearly no need to when there are armchair experts like you who can conclude the cause of the crash without even witnessing it or examining the crash site.  Perhaps you should contact the AAIB to advise them that TVF has the full spectrum of armchair experts and that the next few months of close examination by the AAIB, to determine the actual cause of the accident, may not be needed ????

 

[Enoon]

31 minutes ago, ukrules said:

 and it was moving slow, police escort for the ambulance, also seemed to be crawling at about 20 mph.

 

 

 

 

Which often indicates a patient on board in extremely fragile condition.

 

 

[Mickmouse1]

The sixty year old Thai is immensely well-liked in the midlands town for buying drinks and food for all supporters on occasions like his birthday and Christmas. 

Cheap gits..

[Mickmouse1]

Can you list his Charitable work in the Midlands and in Thailand please?

[Enoon]

11 minutes ago, Esso49 said:

Clearly no need to when there are armchair experts like you who can conclude the cause of the crash without even witnessing it or examining the crash site.  Perhaps you should contact the AAIB to advise them that TVF has the full spectrum of armchair experts and that the next few months of close examination by the AAIB, to determine the actual cause of the accident, may not be needed ????

 

 

Very simple really.

 

Below a certain height/airspeed combination there's no safe way to contact the ground.

 

A similar instance in a fixed wing aircraft would be a stall/spin below minimum recovery height.

 

One doesn't have to be an "expert".

 

Just an ordinary, everyday......"skydriver" (pilot).

 

It's as simple as safe stopping distance in a car.

 

 

 

 

Edited October 28, 2018 by Enoon