HIV+ soldier accused of raping 75 boys

[Lucky mike]

7 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

are you suggesting he is sodomised multiple times?

 

7 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

are you suggesting he is sodomised multiple times?

As long as perpetrator hiv positive

[alex8912]

Completely take the HIV element out of this and this is a horrible crime. He seemed to pose as a 14/15/16 year old on line then when the horny teen arrived most likely raped  then. There are also videos of this and it sounds like several. So the posters claiming he’s not guilty right now might need to sit back and take a little break now. If about 25 of the victims were underage and he IS 43 that is quite a sick man! Very disturbed and must even be menally unstable as well. The other potential victims are 17/18 ish! That’s still too young an often innocent when it comes to sex. 

As far as the death penalty thing. Many posters think if one young lady in Issarn is raped it warrants the death penalty  so how could many posters not understand the outrage in this scenario?  There really are some STRANGE almost  ERIE posts on this thread. Really  makes you think which posters deserve respect in other threads. 

My only comment on the death penalty if  it matters or not is I think it’s there in some crimes so the victims and the victims loved ones feel better and not scared ( for simple terms) also if someone lets say murdered your wife or daughter or someone else you loved and you supported the death penalty BEFORE , most but not all support it after. Oh please spare me the links that disapprove that statement because we can always find perhaps the LITERAL bible bumper on some video saying he/she is praying for the murderer that killer his/ her father etc but that is NOT the norm at all!

[Crustyhk]

13 hours ago, Bluespunk said:

There is no evidence that the death penalty acts as a deterrent. 

 

I do feel that crime should be punished, and I have no problem with harsh sentencing, but I cannot support the death penalty. 

There is absolute proof that the death penalty would stop this evil trash from ruining another life again. 

[webfact]

HIV+  Army Sgt. May Have Raped Hundreds: Police

By Jintamas Saksornchai, Staff Reporter

 

Headquarters of the 3rd Cavalry Division in Khon Kaen province. Photo: 3rd Cavalry Division / Facebook

 

KHON KAEN — Hundreds of boys may have been victimized by an HIV-infected soldier now under arrest in Khon Kaen province, according to a police colonel investigating the case.

 

Col. Athiwit Kamolrat of the anti-trafficking force said Friday they have identified 28 potential victims of 43-year-old Sgt. Maj. Chakkrit Komsing, who so far has been accused of blackmailing and raping dozens of teenage boys.

 

Full story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2018/11/09/hiv-army-sgt-may-have-raped-hundreds-police/

 

-- © Copyright Khaosod English 2018-11-09

 

[Bluespunk]

32 minutes ago, Crustyhk said:

There is absolute proof that the death penalty would stop this evil trash from ruining another life again. 

That is not what I said.

 

I said there is no proof the death penalty acts as a deterrent.

 

What you are calling for is revenge, not punishment.

 

I support punishment {and have no problem with harsh sentencing}, but not revenge, therefore I do not support the death penalty.

[happy chappie]

1 hour ago, Essaybloke said:

"since the abolition of the death penalty in most countries the murder and serious crimes as this one have gone through the roof."

 

That's a big claim right there cowboy! Time for more specific information on "...most countries..." and "...have gone through the roof."  I think you'll find worldwide that murder and serious crimes show a significantly steady decline over time. Your emotional appeal (sorry it happened btw) does not justify sloppy thinking and claim-making.

 

If crime has declined its because they are bahind bars.so if your theory is right they must be closing jails,courts and lawyers are going out of business.i won't even go into detail but I will mention,South America,North America,Europe,Asia,the Middle East and Mediterranean.in fact I can only think of the north and south poles that seem to have a decline in crime.also lets just mention London where there's a crime epidemic or am I reading and watching bs tv and papers.

[Crustyhk]

6 minutes ago, Bluespunk said:

That is not what I said.

 

I said there is no proof the death penalty acts as a deterrent.

 

What you are calling for is revenge, not punishment.

 

I support punishment {and have no problem with harsh sentencing}, but not revenge, therefore I do not support the death penalty.

Couldn’t care less.

This POS needs his last breath extinguished by the state. Or if they’re busy I would be happy to do it for them. Nothing to do with revenge he simply does not deserve to share this planet with the rest of us. Once he’s gone he can’t hurt anyone else. 

You think my opinion is wrong? I don’t care. 

[Bluespunk]

8 minutes ago, Crustyhk said:

Couldn’t care less.

This POS needs his last breath extinguished by the state. Or if they’re busy I would be happy to do it for them. Nothing to do with revenge he simply does not deserve to share this planet with the rest of us. Once he’s gone he can’t hurt anyone else. 

You think my opinion is wrong? I don’t care. 

Nonetheless I strongly disagree with your views on the death penalty.

[Crustyhk]

1 hour ago, Bluespunk said:

Nonetheless I strongly disagree with your views on the death penalty.

You’re entitled to your opinion but I couldn’t care less about what you think.

Your opinions will never change my view. 

Undoubtedly you’ll need the last word. 

[Bluespunk]

1 minute ago, Crustyhk said:

You’re entitled to your opinion but I couldn’t care less about what you think.

Your opinions will never change my view. 

Undoubtedly you’ll need the last word. 

Your views are yours, I do get you don’t care about how the state treats it's citizens, difference is I do. 

 

The state should not execute it’s citizens. 

[sambum]

20 hours ago, worgeordie said:

The only justice he deserves is a very,very, long time in prison,

he knew exactly what he was doing to these boys,many who

could now be infected.

regards worgeordie

But, but, but he's sick and needs help! 

[Rimmer]

Several baiting/bickering flames and replies have been removed

[Fairynuff]

Mentioning his HIV status is purely designed to sensationalise. It cannot be passed on if he is on medication. That however doesn’t change the fact that he is a rapist and should have the book thrown at him. He’s a lowlife piece of **** deserving nothing but contempt

[Essaybloke]

1 hour ago, happy chappie said:

If crime has declined its because they are bahind bars.so if your theory is right they must be closing jails,courts and lawyers are going out of business.i won't even go into detail but I will mention,South America,North America,Europe,Asia,the Middle East and Mediterranean.in fact I can only think of the north and south poles that seem to have a decline in crime.also lets just mention London where there's a crime epidemic or am I reading and watching bs tv and papers.

Hi happy chappie- You have changed the parameters of the discussion; your claim was based on the abolition of the death penalty and a supposed concomitant 'through the roof' rise in 'murder and other serious crimes'. I wondered how you determined that the abolition of one caused the other? (According to the WHO, the world wide murder rate has declined from 7.8 to 6.4 per 100k from 2000-2015 http://apps.who.int/violence-info/homicide/).  And I did not proffer any 'theory' as such and therefore will not respond to the spurious claims you make in response to it. I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by the apparent non-sequitur (sic) "i won't even go into detail but I will mention,South America,North America,Europe,Asia,the Middle East and Mediterranean." Re 'London' and your 'crime epidemic' claim- just in the period  October 2017 and September 2018, overall crime incidents fell from 797 incidents to 683. (https://www.police.uk/city-of-london/cp/crime/stats/) Yes, you may be ill-informed.  

[Patriot1066]

1 minute ago, Essaybloke said:

Hi happy chappie- You have changed the parameters of the discussion; your claim was based on the abolition of the death penalty and a supposed concomitant 'through the roof' rise in 'murder and other serious crimes'. I wondered how you determined that the abolition of one caused the other? (According to the WHO, the world wide murder rate has declined from 7.8 to 6.4 per 100k from 2000-2015 http://apps.who.int/violence-info/homicide/).  And I did not proffer any 'theory' as such and therefore will not respond to the spurious claims you make in response to it. I'm sorry but I don't understand what you mean by the apparent non-sequitur (sic) "i won't even go into detail but I will mention,South America,North America,Europe,Asia,the Middle East and Mediterranean." Re 'London' and your 'crime epidemic' claim- just in the period  October 2017 and September 2018, overall crime incidents fell from 797 incidents to 683. (https://www.police.uk/city-of-london/cp/crime/stats/) Yes, you may be ill-informed.

The death penalty may or may not be a deterrent but it finalises grief for the victim, saves the tax payer money, reduces the risk of re offending after release for the obvious reason, puts an end to press reports years after that destroy the family of the victim, and makes many of those liberal human rights layers obsolete which must be a good thing to end that gravy chain.

 

This guy has tried to infect 75 Children with HIV. Can you really defend his right to life?

[Essaybloke]

16 minutes ago, Patriot1066 said:

The death penalty may or may not be a deterrent but it finalises grief for the victim, saves the tax payer money, reduces the risk of re offending after release for the obvious reason, puts an end to press reports years after that destroy the family of the victim, and makes many of those liberal human rights layers obsolete which must be a good thing to end that gravy chain.

 

This guy has tried to infect 75 Children with HIV. Can you really defend his right to life?

Not really. But I can push back against the highly emotional, unsubstantiated and on occasion fallacious generalisations that seem to arise out of and inflame a thirst for revenge. And you'll need to qualify your meaning on "those liberal human rights layers". Perhaps you're suggesting they're all moral cowards?? ????  

[Elreeco]

Needs to be put down .......

[Patriot1066]

21 minutes ago, Essaybloke said:

Not really. But I can push back against the highly emotional, unsubstantiated and on occasion fallacious generalisations that seem to arise out of and inflame a thirst for revenge. And you'll need to qualify your meaning on "those liberal human rights layers". Perhaps you're suggesting they're all moral cowards?? ???? 

Well there slow down!

 

There is a whole industry of what appear parasitic rights lawyers if your a Peodo, or murderer and have violets so badly someone else's rights then you should no longer have any of the normal right other people have. And yes their is a large Cabal of very left leaning human rights types who live off law abiding people by  helping these scum.

 

I would suggest we should be able to take all 'human rights of paedophiles and murderers due to the horrendous acts they commit. They often get better legal support than the victims and that can not be right.

 

Like this guy if guilty has taken the right to life off most of his 75 victims so should loose his? (According to Thai law) - Which I respect

[anterian]

A no death penalty is based on the assumption that people can redeem and reform, eventually to be released back into society. I would suggest that this person's past behaviour shows that he is incapable of remorse and regret, he is a predator pure and simple. As such he should be destroyed, not as punishment, there are many things worse than death, but simply not to waste the time and money keeping him alive. 

[khundon]

21 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

Appalling crime. The only upside is that the chances of passing on the disease are negligible if he was on medication. 

Didn’t it say that he was diagnosed in 2009 but started treatment in 2015. 

I know that with modern treatments he should be virus free (virus load undetectable) but I’m not sure on that. Either way, he should be locked up for life. Hope they trace all the boys involved and ensure they all get the correct treatment. 

[Essaybloke]

2 hours ago, Patriot1066 said:

Well there slow down!

 

There is a whole industry of what appear parasitic rights lawyers if your a Peodo, or murderer and have violets so badly someone else's rights then you should no longer have any of the normal right other people have. And yes their is a large Cabal of very left leaning human rights types who live off law abiding people by  helping these scum.

 

I would suggest we should be able to take all 'human rights of paedophiles and murderers due to the horrendous acts they commit. They often get better legal support than the victims and that can not be right.

 

Like this guy if guilty has taken the right to life off most of his 75 victims so should loose his? (According to Thai law) - Which I respect

Oh sorry mate, I thought by you referring to them as being 'human rights layers' you were making a pun about them being 'chickens'. Anyhow, even though I am instinctively opposed to killing human beings to make a legal point, I fully understand the call of others to ensure these people lose their lives.  

[Essaybloke]

1 hour ago, anterian said:

A no death penalty is based on the assumption that people can redeem and reform, eventually to be released back into society. I would suggest that this person's past behaviour shows that he is incapable of remorse and regret, he is a predator pure and simple. As such he should be destroyed, not as punishment, there are many things worse than death, but simply not to waste the time and money keeping him alive. 

"A no death penalty is based on the assumption that people can redeem and reform, eventually to be released back into society." No, that's not necessarily the case. It's an assumption you're making.

[SoNowWhat]

4 hours ago, Patriot1066 said:

This guy has tried to infect 75 Children with HIV. Can you really defend his right to life?

This is erroneous, he didn't try to infect anyone, since he was clearly on medication and if taken regularly he is unable to transmit the virus. The addition of HIV was simply to sensationalize the story it's as relevant as if he were a diabetic. 

[Jingthing]

15 minutes ago, SoNowWhat said:

This is erroneous, he didn't try to infect anyone, since he was clearly on medication and if taken regularly he is unable to transmit the virus. The addition of HIV was simply to sensationalize the story it's as relevant as if he were a diabetic. 

I don't think it's that clear cut at all on viral loads for people on meds, but I have also questioned the assumption that he was intentionally trying to infect people. That's a separate question from the pedo crimes he sounds guilty of. Yes the story is sensationalized. I suppose it's inevitable for a story like this. 

 

I think in some localities of the world it's the law to inform sexual partners of your HIV status. Not in Thailand, I assume, and assuming he did at least some rapes (sex with minors is rape under Thai law even consensually) it's hard to imagine that he was so responsible as to disclose his medical status. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Jingthing

[Trouble]

There is no doubt this creature is a despicable person. He seems to have preyed on young guys he met on social media which brings up another fact of life parents must now face. It goes to show the dangers of social media for youth. There is not going to be anything done about it but social media has definitely changed society. When I was growing up you were not allowed to purchase a Playboy or Penthouse magazine until you were 18. Now the internet allows youth of all ages to view the most graphic porn.  As much as I am pretty liberal on things like this I don't necessarily consider it is in the best interests of society at large to allow children to view just anything. That's why they have ratings for movies.  The world certainly has changed and I am not sure it's always been for the better.  In my mind, it's a bit unfortunate that children have unlimited access to social media in ways that lead to risky behavior with adults.  There is little that can be done at this point but you got to wonder what things will be like 20 years from now as it is not going to get any better. 

[sawadee1947]

On 11/8/2018 at 3:43 PM, Bluespunk said:

Me.

Me too !!

[cyberfarang]

What are 13 year olds doing on sites chatting with gay men in the first place? Whatever, those young boys still believed they were going to have a sexual encounter with another male. How do they know that even if meeting up with youths that who they meet still don`t have STDs or aids?

 

Where are he parents and why are they not keeping watch on their children? Not victim blaming here, but children should be taught the dangers of meeting people on the social media.

[Patriot1066]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

I don't think it's that clear cut at all on viral loads for people on meds, but I have also questioned the assumption that he was intentionally trying to infect people. That's a separate question from the pedo crimes he sounds guilty of. Yes the story is sensationalized. I suppose it's inevitable for a story like this. 

 

I think in some localities of the world it's the law to inform sexual partners of your HIV status. Not in Thailand, I assume, and assuming he did at least some rapes (sex with minors is rape under Thai law even consensually) it's hard to imagine that he was so responsible as to disclose his medical status. 

Hard to disagree with your post. Even taking away the HIV status he appears to have raped many children if guilty?

 

Hard to defend him in any way isn’t it?

Edited November 9, 2018 by Patriot1066
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[lamyai3]

5 hours ago, khundon said:

Didn’t it say that he was diagnosed in 2009 but started treatment in 2015. 

I know that with modern treatments he should be virus free (virus load undetectable) but I’m not sure on that. Either way, he should be locked up for life. Hope they trace all the boys involved and ensure they all get the correct treatment. 

It would take about six months of medication for the viral load to become undetectable, assuming he was taking it properly. Although it says he started with the meds though, he may have subsequently lapsed, or taken them haphazardly. Nonetheless, unless he was a super-spreader with a disproportionately high viral load, the chance of infection from a one off encounter isn't high for the victims. Any treatment required for them would more likely be for the emotional and psychological damage inflicted.

[Jingthing]

Also keep in mind the boys and men he allegedly met (reportedly about a third were underage) were freely seeking male to male sex but were deceived about who they were to meet in a very major way. That happens all the time in online hookups but this was an extreme case. So as far as HIV risk one would hope that these boys and men have been educated about safer sex methods. Obviously if they were forcibly raped in a literal way (again, that is not clear from the news report) they wouldn't be in a position to insist on safer sex. But we don't know such details. What I'm getting at here  is that these are boys and men seeking sex with males and as far as their HIV risk in life it's a lot broader than being about one incident with one person (which I agree the risk is low from one incident). So as they're being talked to about these alleged crimes, I hope especially the younger ones are also talked to about safer sex practices in GENERAL. 

 

While we're at it -- how about encouraging people to meet online hookups in a PUBLIC setting first. Common sense often ignored. No, I am not blaming the victims. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Jingthing