Florida orders vote recount in Senate, governor races

[rooster59]

Florida orders vote recount in Senate, governor races

 

FILE PHOTO: U.S. Senator Bill Nelson speaks in Orlando, Florida, U.S., June 12, 2016 and Florida Governor Rick Scott appears in Washington, DC, U.S., September 29, 2017 respectively. REUTERS/Kevin Kolczynski and REUTERS/Joshua Roberts/File Photos

 

(Reuters) - Florida will hold a machine recount of votes in its neck-and-neck races for the U.S. Senate and governor, with results due by 3 p.m. (2000 GMT) on Thursday, its secretary of state said on Saturday.

 

The two contests, along with those for governor in Georgia and for the U.S. Senate in Arizona, are the most high-profile races still undecided after Tuesday's congressional elections.

 

In Florida's election for the U.S. Senate, Republican Governor Rick Scott had seen his lead narrow over incumbent Democratic U.S. Senator Bill Nelson to about 12,500 votes, or 0.15 percent, by Saturday afternoon.

 

Nelson said his campaign would continue taking action to ensure every vote is counted without interference or efforts to undermine the democratic process.

 

"We believe when every legal ballot is counted we'll win this election," Nelson said in a statement.

 

Scott urged every sheriff in the state to watch for any violations during the recount process as outlined in Florida law, and to take appropriate actions.

 

"We will not let unethical liberals steal this election!" Scott wrote on Twitter.

 

In the gubernatorial contest, Republican Ron DeSantis' lead over Democrat Andrew Gillum had slimmed to about 33,700 votes, or 0.41 percent.

 

Gillum, who is trying become Florida's first African-American governor, told reporters his team has organized a cadre of hundreds of volunteers and lawyers to move across the state and fight against voter suppression and for a fair count.

 

"This process is not over until every single vote is counted," Gillum said. "The outcome of this election will have consequences beyond who wins and who loses. How we handle this election in this process will have reverberations for democracy, for an entire generation of voters."

 

ECHOES OF 2000 RECOUNT

 

Accusations of fraud and lawsuits have emerged over the Florida contests in recent days, conjuring memories of the state's 2000 presidential vote recount. In that election, the winner of the White House hung in the balance for weeks before the U.S. Supreme Court stopped the counting and Republican George W. Bush triumphed over Democrat Al Gore.

 

President Donald Trump has accused Democratic election officials in Florida's Broward and Palm Beach Counties of corruption, without providing any evidence.

 

"Trying to STEAL two big elections in Florida! We are watching closely!" Trump wrote on Twitter on Saturday during a visit to France.

 

Scott has filed lawsuits against Democratic election supervisors in the two counties, accusing them of violating election law and demanding access to their vote tallies.

 

Nelson also filed a motion in federal court asking that provisional and absentee ballots not be rejected because election officials deem that the signatures do not match voters' signatures on file.

 

Trump has noted the involvement of Nelson's lawyer, Marc Elias, a Washington-based Democrat who represented Hillary Clinton during her 2016 presidential race, describing him on Twitter as the Democrats' "best election stealing lawyer."

 

After the machine recount results are delivered, Florida Secretary of State Ken Detzner will order manual recounts if two candidates are separated by 0.25 percent of the vote or less.

 

The recounts and possible legal challenges mean it could be weeks until a winner is determined in either race.

 

In Tuesday's elections, Democrats won a majority in the U.S. House of Representatives after eight years in the minority, while Republicans expanded their two-seat advantage in the Senate.

 

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-11-11

[Lungstib]

A country in serious decline where organising a free and fair election seems to be beyond their capabilities. Gerrymandering and removal of people from voter roles is all now seen as legitimate ways of winning and to top it all a president makes accusations without a shred of evidence. No evidence of M.A.G.A. just a slow sure slide into dysfunctional politics. Brazil, on the other hand, ran a trouble free election.

[alfalfa19]

"We will not let unethical liberals steal this election!" Scott wrote on Twitter.

 

That's right!!  Only the vile Republicans are allowed to steal elections in Florida!  You tell 'em , Rick!

[Jonnapat]

Anyone see the images of many unopened ballot boxes in a warehouse somewhere in Florida?

And Trump accuses Dems of trying to steal elections.

[Phuket Stan]

And the USA races around the world spouting Democracy......yeah right mate

 

Sorry USA.... you are losing your mojo as a world leader really quickly

[rgraham]

Many of us living in Florida relocated here for the warm winters, fishing, and most of all no state income tax. The socialist Gillum wants more money for those who do not provide for themselves by way of imposing state income tax to support social programs. I escaped the liberal wasteland of Colorado and do not want to spend my retirement in a similar condition here.

[bristolboy]

2 minutes ago, rgraham said:

Many of us living in Florida relocated here for the warm winters, fishing, and most of all no state income tax. The socialist Gillum wants more money for those who do not provide for themselves by way of imposing state income tax to support social programs. I escaped the liberal wasteland of Colorado and do not want to spend my retirement in a similar condition here.

Well, I'm sure that when the state retallies the vote, they will take your opinion into account.

[Becker]

8 minutes ago, rgraham said:

Many of us living in Florida relocated here for the warm winters, fishing, and most of all no state income tax. The socialist Gillum wants more money for those who do not provide for themselves by way of imposing state income tax to support social programs. I escaped the liberal wasteland of Colorado and do not want to spend my retirement in a similar condition here.

Then I'm sure Texas will welcome you with open arms.

[Jingthing]

And the USA races around the world spouting Democracy......yeah right mate
 
Sorry USA.... you are losing your mojo as a world leader really quickly

It's self inflicted which makes it more tragic.

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[Jingthing]

Florida in its wisdom has opened up future votes to most people with felony convictions. About a million people. The Republicans may well narrowly win these important recounts for governor and senator. But this will be the last time. Florida be blue y'all!

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[Phuket Stan]

1 hour ago, rgraham said:

Many of us living in Florida relocated here for the warm winters, fishing, and most of all no state income tax. The socialist Gillum wants more money for those who do not provide for themselves by way of imposing state income tax to support social programs. I escaped the liberal wasteland of Colorado and do not want to spend my retirement in a similar condition here.

Shift.....easy solution.....HAwaii is a great place for sun, surf and fishing and oh beer

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Phuket Stan said:

Shift.....easy solution.....HAwaii is a great place for sun, surf and fishing and oh beer

And the highest cost of living of any state.

[Phuket Stan]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

And the highest cost of living of any state.

You can't have everything in life.....unless u r one of the 1%

[Tug]

I think the republicans are having a tantrum re count honor the result 

[Scott]

Off-topic posts removed.  

 

[janclaes47]

11 hours ago, Jonnapat said:

Anyone see the images of many unopened ballot boxes in a warehouse somewhere in Florida?

And Trump accuses Dems of trying to steal elections.

Why would Trump hide ballots that may be loaded with Republican votes?

Edited November 11, 2018 by janclaes47

[Damrongsak]

57 minutes ago, janclaes47 said:

Why would Trump hide ballots that may be loaded with Republican votes?

Right-wing, conservative illegal immigrant votes?  

[helpisgood]

[attrayant]

9 hours ago, janclaes47 said:

Why would Trump hide ballots that may be loaded with Republican votes?

 

If they are ballots from Broward, Palm Beach or Miami-Dade, they'll be heavily democratic votes.

[attrayant]

17 hours ago, Phuket Stan said:

And the USA races around the world spouting Democracy.

 

The US has no business doing that ever since they were downgraded to a "flawed democracy" last year.  The country barely makes the list of functioning democracies.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, helpisgood said:

Not ever again.

Quote

Over 1 Million Florida Felons Win Right To Vote With Amendment 4

 

https://www.npr.org/2018/11/07/665031366/over-a-million-florida-ex-felons-win-right-to-vote-with-amendment-4

 

BTW, to the "trump" fans tempted to hurl insults that the democrats need to scrape the bottom of the barrel to win elections, I would say, ex-felons are U.S. citizens and after they have served their time they should not have their voting rights crushed by cynical racist voter suppression. 

Edited November 12, 2018 by Jingthing

[billd766]

On 11/11/2018 at 1:36 PM, Jonnapat said:

Anyone see the images of many unopened ballot boxes in a warehouse somewhere in Florida?

And Trump accuses Dems of trying to steal elections.

I haven't seen any of those images.

 

Do you have a link to anything?

[MyFriend You]

18 hours ago, Phuket Stan said:

Shift.....easy solution.....HAwaii is a great place for sun, surf and fishing and oh beer

and Hawaii doesn't tax and Govt Retirement Income, Military, State Govt, Fed Govt or Social Security - it only taxes money earned in the State, like rental income............great place to retire, I've been there since 2005.

Edited November 12, 2018 by TunnelRat69

[MyFriend You]

2 hours ago, billd766 said:

I haven't seen any of those images.

 

Do you have a link to anything?

They found a number of them that contained Office Supplies, and ONE in a post office that had not been delivered on time - an investigation is on-going, it is assumed it was buried under sacks of mail - those votes will not be counted under State Law.

[Jingthing]

28 minutes ago, TunnelRat69 said:

and Hawaii doesn't tax and Govt Retirement Income, Military, State Govt, Fed Govt or Social Security - it only taxes money earned in the State, like rental income............great place to retire, I've been there since 2005.

I'm sure it is. A pity the majority of Americans of retirement age can't afford to be homeless in Hawaii …

[Srikcir]

Now a recount has been ordered by Palm Beach County Supervisor of Elections for Florida Agricultural Commissioner. The supervisor has indicated that the recount cannot be done by the state mandated deadline.

Will Gov. Scott accuse that supervisor of failing her job, of collusion, call for her suspension?

Hint 1: Supervisor is a Republican.

Hint 2: The Republican candidate is now ahead and if the recount doesn't make the deadline, the Republican Secretary of State can certify the election for the Republican candidate without the recount!

Edited November 12, 2018 by Srikcir
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[rgraham]

On ‎11‎/‎11‎/‎2018 at 9:08 AM, Phuket Stan said:

Shift.....easy solution.....HAwaii is a great place for sun, surf and fishing and oh beer

Have you been to Hono lately? Homeless sh!thole.

[heybruce]

On 11/12/2018 at 4:00 AM, TunnelRat69 said:

They found a number of them that contained Office Supplies, and ONE in a post office that had not been delivered on time - an investigation is on-going, it is assumed it was buried under sacks of mail - those votes will not be counted under State Law.

That is a BS law.  People who voted legally and before the deadline should not be disenfranchised because of a post office screw-up.

[mtls2005]

Trump is getting more delusional every day. In an interview with the Daily Caller he described how people change clothes to vote multiple times, and that you need an ID to buy cereal.

 

Yeah, like he even eats cereal. Quel buffoon.

 

For those not from the U.S., only non-white people need IDs. Just kidding, or am I?

 

 

Donald Trump Thinks You Need ID To Buy Cereal

 

“The Republicans don’t win and that’s because of potentially illegal votes,” Trump said, without evidence. “When people get in line that have absolutely no right to vote and they go around in circles. Sometimes they go to their car, put on a different hat, put on a different shirt, come in and vote again. Nobody takes anything. It’s really a disgrace what’s going on.”

 

He then added, “If you buy a box of cereal — you have a voter ID.”

 

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-voter-id-cereal-grocery-store_us_5bec7b0ae4b0a2569fd13a0f

[Srikcir]

24 minutes ago, mtls2005 said:

Trump is getting more delusional every day.

Trump about Florida ballot count: “An honest vote count is no longer possible — ballots massively infected. Must go with Election Night!” https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-raises-baseless-infected-ballot-claims-amid-florida-recount-150450385.html

Infected - does Trump classify Democrats as an infectious disease?

Least not forgotten is Trump's past election hypocrisy:

On election night in 2012, Trump called President Barack Obama’s reelection victory by clinching of the Electoral College a "total sham" because, at the time, Obama trailed Mitt Romney in the popular vote tally.

ditto cite