webfact Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Prawit attacks ex-NCPO member for ‘defecting’ By THE NATION DEPUTY PREMIER Prawit Wongsuwan yesterday described a retired senior military officer joining a new anti-junta political party as “ungrateful” and “a chameleon”. General Prawit, who is also defence minister, hit back at General Yossanan Raicharoen, who had earlier criticised the ruling junta, for applying to join the Thai Raksa Chart Party. Thai Raksa Chart is dominated by politicians from the previously ruling Pheu Thai Party and is viewed by some political observers as having strong links with fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, who has also been critical of the junta. Prawit said yesterday that he found it “strange” for Yossanan to criticise the ruling National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) even though he worked for it before retiring. “He had been with us all along. Then he suddenly attacked the NCPO. He has clearly forgotten the kindness he received [from us],” Prawit said at the Defence Ministry. Prawit added that while Yossanan was with the junta, he “supported it well” and yet he has changed. When asked if the general-turned-politician had “changed his colours like a chameleon”, Prawit responded: “Yes, just like a chameleon.” Meanwhile, Thaksin lobbed a thinly veiled attack against Prawit in a Twitter message yesterday, saying: “Military officers who volunteer to work in politics in a straightforward manner deserve more praise than those who gain power through a coup. Don’t you think so, Pom [referring to the defence minister by his nickname]?” On Tuesday, Yossanan said he had applied to become a member of Thai Raksa Chart, because it held the democratic ideology. “Democracy is really important these days. It can help Thailand move forward, help the economy grow and improve the well-being of the people. “I would like to call on all military officers to stand by the people. It’s no longer time for dictatorships to rule the country. The lesson we learned over the past four years after the coup shows that the country has not progressed, people are suffering and the economy has stopped growing,” Yossanan said. In response to Prawit’s labelling him “ungrateful”, he said he did not want to counter-attack, adding “I believe people will understand”. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/politics/30359056 -- © Copyright The Nation 2018-11-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Justgrazing Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 9 minutes ago, webfact said: Prawit responded: “Yes, just like a chameleon.” A toad in the hole calling out a Chameleon .. Bit rich that some might say .. 11 minutes ago, webfact said: He had been with us all along. Then he suddenly attacked the NCPO. He has clearly forgotten the kindness he received [from us],” Prawit said at the Defence Ministry. There's always a first time for everything just look at it that way .. 13 minutes ago, webfact said: "I would like to call on all military officers to stand by the people. It’s no longer time for dictatorships to rule the country. The lesson we learned over the past four years after the coup shows that the country has not progressed, people are suffering and the economy has stopped growing,” Yossanan said. Well said Sir sounds like you have a grip on reality .. Unlike Patek Prawit .. 17 minutes ago, webfact said: Meanwhile, Thaksin lobbed a thinly veiled attack against Prawit in a Twitter message yesterday, saying: “Military officers who volunteer to work in politics in a straightforward manner deserve more praise than those who gain power through a coup. Don’t you think so, Pom [referring to the defence minister by his nickname]?” Hahaha nothing like a bit of pot stirring from the Boss .. 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 "...Prawit said yesterday that he found it “strange” for Yossanan to criticise the ruling National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) even though he worked for it before retiring. “He had been with us all along. Then he suddenly attacked the NCPO. He has clearly forgotten the kindness he received [from us],” Prawit said at the Defence Ministry..." Forgotten the kindness received? Like being promoted to head of the Army, then later launching a coup? I should be used to it by now, but the self-serving, hypocrisy that I sometimes see in Thailand is still shocking after all these years. Good luck Yossaanan, and if the Junta start to whine too much, just start listing their secret assets. 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Samui Bodoh Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) Hmm... The Junta needs to be a bit careful here... Thai governmental ethos is VERY bureaucratic and committee-based, so I imagine that there are several rather juicy records lying about. Did the Junta have a plan to kill off Facebook (hint: yes.)? What are the plans for a single gateway on the Web? What, if any, are the secret aspects to the Chinese railroad deals(s)? What other concessions were made to the Chinese in order to gain their support? What other... interesting decisions were made around the Junta table? if Yossaanan lifted the lid on the Junta's double dealing(s) and corruption, the resulting stench would likely kill all forms of life in a 5 mile radius. Edited November 21, 2018 by Samui Bodoh 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 "I would like to call on all military officers to stand by the people ", and I'm sure that they will be at the ballot boxes, "assisting" them. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mok199 Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 ''So I guess a retirement Watch is out of the question''.. 4 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thailand Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 Maybe just the first to make the switch, interesting times ahead. 6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post z42 Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 As much as i applaud Yossanan saying the right things now, I do think Prawit has a point when he asks why he kept his mouth shut for the last few years, don't think I can recall Yossanan saying anything explosive in the last 4 years anyway while the NCPO has been bashing on with its deeds. Prawit is the lowest of the low undoubtedly, but he needs to tread carefully here, he is a liability and his rantings to the wrong people (former high ranking ones who will know some dirt undoubtedly) could bring some very uncomfortable truths to the fore in the election run up. This Yossanan guy I hope doesn't become another Seh Daeng, at least in the way he ends up when it's all said and done. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YetAnother Posted November 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2018 2 hours ago, webfact said: “He had been with us all along. Then he suddenly attacked the NCPO. He has clearly forgotten the kindness he received [from us],” Prawit said so it all boils down to 'kindness' ? really ? illustrates more than ever we have the wrong people here in power 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a977 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Me thinks he see writing on the wall and jump ship while he still can, the way ol Fatty keeps spruiking he'll be the first to go down with the ship 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZeVonderBearz Posted November 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2018 He's taken it very personaly. People are entitled to change their views. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 As much as i applaud Yossanan saying the right things now, I do think Prawit has a point when he asks why he kept his mouth shut for the last few years, don't think I can recall Yossanan saying anything explosive in the last 4 years anyway while the NCPO has been bashing on with its deeds. Prawit is the lowest of the low undoubtedly, but he needs to tread carefully here, he is a liability and his rantings to the wrong people (former high ranking ones who will know some dirt undoubtedly) could bring some very uncomfortable truths to the fore in the election run up. This Yossanan guy I hope doesn't become another Seh Daeng, at least in the way he ends up when it's all said and done. Sure the guy has no morals but neither does the junta. Most politicians dont have morals here.But it is funny how people criticize PTP defectors but hail junta defectors.Also funny that Prawit has no problems with PTP defectors going to his side. They are all so bias and in for the money.I have no problem this guy switching sides nor with PTP defectors. I would never trust people like that as it looks as if they do anything for some money.Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 4 hours ago, harada said: "I would like to call on all military officers to stand by the people ", and I'm sure that they will be at the ballot boxes, "assisting" them. ...under the bright eyes of 'election observers' from China, Papua New Guinea, and the Marshall Islands. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post baboon Posted November 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, z42 said: As much as i applaud Yossanan saying the right things now, I do think Prawit has a point when he asks why he kept his mouth shut for the last few years, don't think I can recall Yossanan saying anything explosive in the last 4 years anyway while the NCPO has been bashing on with its deeds. Perhaps like a few posters on here, he believed in the coup, but ended up losing faith as the junta began running increasing wild. Or maybe he is simply smart enough to recognise which way the wind is blowing... 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lupatria Posted November 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2018 I wonder how long it will take until the first arrest for wearing a shirt with Yossanan's photo will be made, and what the charges and punishment will be. Regarding his change of the leagues: he may be doing it for the money, but I hope it's more like the attitude change of the former German chancellor Adenauer, who was challenged in parliament for telling the opposite of what he said the day before. His answer was priceless: "Do you want to stop me from getting smarter overnight?" 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post poohy Posted November 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2018 i misread it as "defecating " I thought that was a bit harsh! when you have to go you have to go.. which i suppose he has ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thaiguzzi Posted November 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2018 5 hours ago, webfact said: “I would like to call on all military officers to stand by the people. It’s no longer time for dictatorships to rule the country. The lesson we learned over the past four years after the coup shows that the country has not progressed, people are suffering and the economy has stopped growing,” Yossanan said. Round of applause for Khun Yossanan. A pat on the back. A strong hand shake. Hopefully the first of many "defectors".... Perhaps later the "Watermelon" officers will rise up - now that would get really interesting....... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GarryP Posted November 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2018 Maybe he is not defecting. Maybe he always supported democracy, but serving in the army knew he had to keep quiet and toe the line. I know there are others who do not support the Junta, but they do not want to jeopardize their position (salary and subsequent pension) by speaking out. Freedom of speech and to support who they want does not enter into the equation when still serving. Post retirement is a different matter. Calling a toad a toad is fine then. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 You sir are like a chameleon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 ...tweeting from a remote location...??? ...why...??? ...out of concern for the Thai people...??? ...sitting on a mountain of funds....??? ...ill-gotten...??? ...a fugitive from the law...??? ...and pretending all these people...turncoats....and anyone else he can lure... are 'volunteering'...??? ...the Thai people should wake up to what a vile...deceptive character he really is...??? ...the only thing he ever volunteered was to take away trillions from the Thai people...??? ...just asking.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janclaes47 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 6 hours ago, webfact said: He has clearly forgotten the kindness he received [from us],” Prawit said at the Defence Ministry. He has clearly forgotten how he was fed at the trough........ There I corrected it for you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burma Bill Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 The letters P R A W I T can spell "a twirp" but no E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newatthis Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 2 hours ago, ZeVonderBearz said: He's taken it very personaly. People are entitled to change their views. And that's exactly what it's all about. Who here hasn't changed their political views / party support over the years? I remember jumping up and down when Gough Whitlam and Labour got voted in '72. But 3 years later, I couldn't wait to see the back of the bastard after his arrogant "nothing will save the Governor-General" attitude. Often, people who say that they're diehard supporters of "so and so" just don't read about or listen to other points of view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
connda Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 7 hours ago, webfact said: General Prawit, who is also defence minister, hit back at General Yossanan Raicharoen, who had earlier criticised the ruling junta, for applying to join the Thai Raksa Chart Party. Perhaps General Youssanan feels a moral obligation to support Democracy as opposed to 'over-throws' and is lending his support for a future Thailand without coups? Revolutionary idea, 'eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oziex1 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Old watch boy really is showing what he thinks of someone making a choice against what he believes is right. The right to choose all part of democracy isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumpy 4680 Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Yossanan, got my vote already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Is he one, or one of a hundred? Things will only start to get "interesting" if more military line up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 3 hours ago, robblok said: Sure the guy has no morals but neither does the junta. Most politicians dont have morals here. But it is funny how people criticize PTP defectors but hail junta defectors. Also funny that Prawit has no problems with PTP defectors going to his side. They are all so bias and in for the money. I have no problem this guy switching sides nor with PTP defectors. I would never trust people like that as it looks as if they do anything for some money. Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk You recognize the reality Rob - they're all the same as one another, just picking the side that they think will give them the best chance of self enrichment. Whereas, sadly, some still like to pretend that PTP, and it's new splinter parties, are different and that their owner is pure as the driven snow! The scourge of corrupt family political clans who have no morals, no shame and feel totally entitled. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 50 minutes ago, connda said: Perhaps General Youssanan feels a moral obligation to support Democracy as opposed to 'over-throws' and is lending his support for a future Thailand without coups? Revolutionary idea, 'eh? If he felt any moral obligation he wouldn't likely join the side headed by a corrupt criminal. Unless you think kleptocracies are acceptable as long as those thieving get voted for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 You recognize the reality Rob - they're all the same as one another, just picking the side that they think will give them the best chance of self enrichment. Whereas, sadly, some still like to pretend that PTP, and it's new splinter parties, are different and that their owner is pure as the driven snow! The scourge of corrupt family political clans who have no morals, no shame and feel totally entitled.Indeed i used to think there were good sides but now i see them all for what they are.I have some hope for the future forward party. But i certainly would not bet my life on it.But i know 1 thing all the old parties and junta are all the same. All in it for the money.Sent from my SM-G955F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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