1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I don’t think it was a punctuation error.

 

Simply a bit of reality breaking through all the layers of denial.

Go on Chomps give me a giggle. Please tell me what I am denying.

Imagine sitting in a bar or restaurant what the other Europeans will be saying or thinking about them.

Sorry Hyacinth, does the whole idea make your curtains twitch?
Nobody cares about what any Europeans think, about anything, whether it’s politics or choice in bar or restaurant. I hope your Remainerism is not just for the sake of Keeping Up Appearances.


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12 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 My own iggy list?

 

If by that you mean my ignore list, I don't have one; I am not afraid of reading what people may say to or about me.

 

But didn't you say I was going onto yours some time back?

No; I only suggested you place me on yours but regrettably you lacked sufficient character to keep to it as foreseen at the time.

I generally give you a wide berth but you're far too entertaining to go on an iggy list.

HTH

 

Edited March 14, 20197 yr by evadgib

11 hours ago, elliss said:

 

   Norther island and its  borders were never   mentioned ,  during the brexit   red  bus bull shiet propaganda regime.

 

    Now  it is the main stumbling block,  norther and southern Ireland , and will never  allow  closed borders to return.

     UK , must offer a kings  ransom ,   to encourage  NI ,  to unite with  the south , and form a United Ireland in the  EU ..

 

 

 

 

 

Why?

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

Jumping to conclusions, show me where there was a differentiation. Discontent is global not a brexit issue, the vote was merely an opportunity to express the discontent. Unfortunately austerity had been portrayed as being the result of too many "foreigners" draining the resources etc etc, rather than inadequate government funding. Very easy to just blame the EU.

Don't you think that with so much money being spent by the government that some may have woken up to reality. The real fear behind another vote, Theresa May has no problem asking the same question again and again.

Of course, it's impossible to prove to what extent Brexit voters were motivated by discontentment with our political system. But one would have to be blind, deaf and arguably rather dumb, to deny it played a part in the proceedings.

 

To be honest, I find your views on austerity in the UK confusing. The root causes are many and certainly include the costs associated with large-scale immigration and the related effects of the EU's open borders policy.

 

Likewise, I am finding it difficult to square you reference to "inadequate Government funding", with your comment in the following paragraph about "so much money being spent by the government".

 

In my view, Theresa May's insistence in constantly regurgitating her egregious withdrawal deal is because effectively it would keep us tied to the EU - which, as a Remain wolf in Leave clothing, is her instinctive preference.

Edited March 14, 20197 yr by Krataiboy

3 hours ago, malagateddy said:

Your opinion and you're quite entitled to have it..JUST AS I AM ENTITLED TO HAVE MINE

 

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This is such a cliched response.

An opinion is a side of an argument or viewpoint based on rational and critical thought and evidence..... Racism is no such thing and you are certainly not ENTITLED to anything that's just a regurgitated soundbite for those who can't or won't. think.

You could always just put me on your ignore list..but please define " racist " firstly.
If the wife and myself dine out..I really couldn't care less about the nationality of the other diners.
I " call it as I see it "..a spade's a spade to me, as one who lives in the REAL world..not the oh so luvly pc world.

This is such a cliched response.
An opinion is a side of an argument or viewpoint based on rational and critical thought and evidence..... Racism is no such thing and you are certainly not ENTITLED to anything that's just a regurgitated soundbite for those who can't or won't. think.

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10 hours ago, wilcopops said:

See what happens to costs if they decide to drive into Europe, or try and work there or buy a property...

Imagine sitting in a bar or restaurant what the other Europeans will be saying or thinking about them.

It'll be so embarrassing. A second rate person from a second rate country.

If you sit in bars worrying about what other people may be saying about you , you are either way too sensitive or paranoid

Watch out..they're behind you..he he he[emoji23]

If you sit in bars worrying about what other people may be saying about you , you are either way too sensitive or paranoid

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7 hours ago, nauseus said:

Thanks! But the remainers will start reading between the lines! 

and complaining the fonts not big enough.

2 hours ago, sanemax said:

If you sit in bars worrying about what other people may be saying about you , you are either way too sensitive or paranoid

It seems brexiteers don't not recognise the use of analogy or any figures o f speech come to that....., no surprise there, I suppose.

Edited March 14, 20197 yr by wilcopops

20 hours ago, elliss said:

 

   Norther island and its  borders were never   mentioned ,  during the brexit   red  bus bull shiet propaganda regime.

 

    Now  it is the main stumbling block,  norther and southern Ireland , and will never  allow  closed borders to return.

     UK , must offer a kings  ransom ,   to encourage  NI ,  to unite with  the south , and form a United Ireland in the  EU ..

 

 

 

 

 

Are you an English teacher?

 

Or a politics lecturer?

6 hours ago, wilcopops said:

This is such a cliched response.

An opinion is a side of an argument or viewpoint based on rational and critical thought and evidence..... Racism is no such thing and you are certainly not ENTITLED to anything that's just a regurgitated soundbite for those who can't or won't. think.

It looked to me as though he was commenting on the state of those two economies rather than the people. (I don't actually know the state of them).

 

But when you see the opportunity, scream "racism" and point the finger, job done.

9 hours ago, evadgib said:

20 hours ago, 7by7 said:

 My own iggy list?

 

If by that you mean my ignore list, I don't have one; I am not afraid of reading what people may say to or about me.

 

But didn't you say I was going onto yours some time back?

No; I only suggested you place me on yours but regrettably you lacked sufficient character to keep to it as foreseen at the time.

Who put you in charge of deciding who should put whom on their ignore list?

 

What do you mean by 'sufficent character?'

 

I didn't 'keep to it' because I have never placed you, nor anyone else, on my ignore list for the reasons already given.

 

9 hours ago, evadgib said:

I generally give you a wide berth but you're far too entertaining to go on an iggy list.

HTH

That is up to you.

 

But what is very noticable is that you and you fellows have a habit of dodging questions, answering the one you wanted to be asked rather than the one which was asked and, if pushed, resorting to pathetic insults.

 

Your post is a prime example of this; being not the moral and intelectually superior remarks you obvioulsy imagine them to be, but merely yet another example of the latter.

 

As I have asked before, why can none of you give a staight answer to a straight question?

 

The answer, I think, is obvious.

Edited March 14, 20197 yr by 7by7
Typo

Good evening 49

I'm not biting ????

Wow, supurb negotiating skills here. NOT!!!!

 

Trade deals with Fiji AND Papua New Guinea. Not even a quid pro quo. Their products enter the UK tariff free, they keep theirs but ‘commit’ to bring theirs down over time, but only on 80% of products from the UK.

 

Can’t even get balanced trade deals with these minnows! 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/14/uk-signs-post-brexit-trade-deal-with-fiji-and-papua-new-guinea?CMP=fb_gu

 

 

.

Edited March 15, 20197 yr by welovesundaysatspace
Please delete

I presume this topic will be closed now that Brexit has been cancelled.

1 hour ago, samran said:

Wow, supurb negotiating skills here. NOT!!!!

 

Trade deals with Fiji AND Papua New Guinea. Not even a quid pro quo. Their products enter the UK tariff free, they keep theirs but ‘commit’ to bring theirs down over time, but only on 80% of products from the UK.

 

Can’t even get balanced trade deals with these minnows! 

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/mar/14/uk-signs-post-brexit-trade-deal-with-fiji-and-papua-new-guinea?CMP=fb_gu

 

 

Yes, these are the easy deals promised. Easy because they don’t have any substantial content, therefore didn’t require any sort of serious negotiation. 

And the cant ‘keep’ their tariffs because that would put the UK in a position to apply their lower/zero tariffs to all WTO Members. A trade agreement must be reciprocal or the WTO’s MFN-clause would apply.

Edited March 15, 20197 yr by damascase
Typo

1 hour ago, Henryford said:

I presume this topic will be closed now that Brexit has been cancelled.

I think you must be coming from the future.????

It isn't cancelled just yet. As usual the MP's are trying their best to cancel it but unless your a time traveler it is still on. So as they say.

"Buckle up your seatbelt, Dorothy, 'cause Kansas is going bye bye"

Edited March 15, 20197 yr by Laughing Gravy
Stop the grammar police shouting.

1 hour ago, Henryford said:

I presume this topic will be closed now that Brexit has been cancelled.

I doubt that, the bitching will not cease until the government,

banks, and elitists inevitably get their way.. welcome to

total, centralized control of every aspect of our lives.

2 hours ago, Henryford said:

I presume this topic will be closed now that Brexit has been cancelled.

From the BBC website this morning.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47579033

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47577742

 

And for the Lib/Dems if there are any on TVF

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-47573243

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47577739

21 hours ago, wilcopops said:

It seems brexiteers don't not recognise the use of analogy or any figures o f speech come to that....., no surprise there, I suppose.

No comment.

6 hours ago, Henryford said:

I presume this topic will be closed now that Brexit has been cancelled.

What? You mean it won't be third time lucky for Mother Theresa's sell-out deal?

3 hours ago, billd766 said:

From the BBC website this morning.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47579033

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47577742

 

And for the Lib/Dems if there are any on TVF

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-47573243

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47577739

You see - at least one of us trusts the BBC.

6 hours ago, Henryford said:

I presume this topic will be closed now that Brexit has been cancelled.

Hopefully, only postponed.

20 hours ago, evadgib said:

Good evening 49

I'm not biting ????

Except, of course, you did!

 

Now, instead of yet another supercilious reply, how about you having a stab at the question all but one of your fellow Brexiteers have refused to answer.

 

What specifics in May's deal do you disagree with, and with what would you replace them?

3 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Except, of course, you did!

 

Now, instead of yet another supercilious reply, how about you having a stab at the question all but one of your fellow Brexiteers have refused to answer.

 

What specifics in May's deal do you disagree with, and with what would you replace them?

Super Canada was looking good until I realised O(i)lly Robins had undermined Davis at Mays behest; Couple that with the likes of B-liar, Major, Grieve/Cooper/Bercow etc and you'll realise why I for one flatly refuse to subscribe to anything presented by May as she frankly cannot be trusted. I'd much rather see a clean break and a new team (GE?) getting on with it afterwards.

I have leaned in their direction throughout my adult life but the further they are (in time) from Thatcher the more woeful the Tories have become.

 

Edited March 15, 20197 yr by evadgib

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

Super Canada was looking good until I realised O(i)lly Robins had undermined Davis at Mays behest; Couple that with the likes of B-liar, Major, Grieve/Cooper/Bercow etc and you'll realise why I for one flatly refuse to subscribe to anything presented by May as she frankly cannot be trusted. I'd much rather see a clean break and a new team (GE?) getting on with it afterwards.

I have leaned in their direction throughout my adult life but the further they are (in time) from Thatcher the more woeful the Tories have become.

 

Stating your poor opinion of those named, no matter how justified, is not an answer to the question!

5 hours ago, 7by7 said:

Except, of course, you did!

 

Now, instead of yet another supercilious reply, how about you having a stab at the question all but one of your fellow Brexiteers have refused to answer.

 

What specifics in May's deal do you disagree with, and with what would you replace them?

   What are the "specifics" of Mays deal ? 

Have they been made public ?, if so, post them up