Corbyn: Labour bid to force general election matter of 'when, not if'

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Corbyn: Labour bid to force general election matter of 'when, not if'

 

FILE PHOTO: Jeremy Corbyn, leader of the Labour Party, speaks at the Confederation of British Industry's (CBI) annual conference in London, Britain, November 19, 2018. REUTERS/Toby Melville

 

(Reuters) - British opposition leader Jeremy Corbyn told the Independent newspaper the Labour party's attempt to force a general election by tabling a no-confidence motion was a matter of "when, not if."

 

Corbyn suggested the move would be unavoidable if British Prime Minister Theresa May fails to secure backing for her Brexit policies from parliament.

 

"We've made clear it's a question of when not if we do a vote of no confidence in the government, and obviously we do (it) at a time when their confidence is the lowest ever, which I suspect will be after they've lost the vote", Corbyn told the newspaper in an interview.

 

The Labour leader added that the party has selected candidates in all of its marginal seats in preparation for a snap election.

 

A new election is not due until 2022 but one could be called if May fails to get her primary policy through parliament.

 

Corbyn also urged May to recall parliament early during the new year to bring forward a critical vote on the Brexit deal.

 

Late last week, Corbyn said he would push ahead with Brexit and seek to renegotiate the terms if he won a snap election next year.

 

With Britain due to leave the European Union on March 29, Labour has been insisting it wants a permanent customs union with the EU and a close relationship with its lucrative single market.

 

(Reporting by Vandana Shaw and Kanishka Singh in Bengaluru; Editing by Tom Brown)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2018-12-28

[Chomper Higgot]

Corbyn has failed miserably to capitalize on the Tory infighting over Brexit.

 

The Brexit referendum has only one purpose, an attempt to hold the Tory party together, it’s only succeeded at transmitting the Tory infighting to the whole o the nation.

 

Corbyn is simply not bright enough to make political capital out of the gift of a collapsing Tory Party, a PM who is failing her party and the country and a mass of lies and sordid attempts by the Government to rule by executive edict.

 

The poor s0d believes he can get a deal that he’s been told is not on offer and he further believes that an economy wrecked by Brexit will be able to afford the social reforms he’s promising.

 

The nation is withou a leader and there are no credible candidates on either side of the house.

[evadgib]

Seen yesterday:

 

LONDON — There’s some James Bond film in which a power-crazed baddie is planning to blow up the world and a timer has been activated. In the closing scenes at the villain’s lair, the countdown, complete with (inevitably) a Teutonic voice, begins: “Ten minutes und kounting! Nine minutes und kounting!”

Here in Brexit-crazed Westminster, that scene sounds all too familiar.

 

https://www.politico.eu/article/brexit-britain-will-be-just-fine/

[sungod]

Cant help thinking a Loony Left Labour government will be far more damaging to the economy than Brexit ????

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, sungod said:

Cant help thinking a Loony Left Labour government will be far more damaging to the economy than Brexit ????

The tragedy is the only options on the table are one of two failed Parties AND Brexit.

[smedly]

He is relying on Tory rebels and the betrayers of the referendum the turn on their own party - traitors like the vile Soubry - Grieve - Morgan - Clarke and a few others

 

These treacherous people will bring down their own Government to get their way and defy the British people, they have nothing to lose as they are done as far as politics goes, they will never stand for election for any main party again, perhaps the treason party

[Spidey]

33 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Corbyn is simply not bright enough to make political capital out of the gift of a collapsing Tory Party, a PM who is failing her party and the country and a mass of lies and sordid attempts by the Government to rule by executive edict.

No, the real reason is that he's a life long Brexiteer. If he weren't, he'd be calling for a referendum on the deal on the table or remain. This should be the Labour party's approach but Corbyn would never go for that.

 

Basically, we have a pro Brexit Labour party and a pro Brexit Tory party. Who would the sensible people vote for if there were an election? Lib Dems?

 

There's no hope for us, Democracy is dead, in the UK.

[anon7867763]

Why ? with Corbyn at the helm they have zero % chance of winning. pointless drivel from him as usual.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

Who would the sensible people vote for if there were an election

The sensible people already voted to leave the dictorial power grabbing abusive EU, we want no further part of it, there might be 27 countries left when we leave but of that only 5 represent any interest to us, we will continue to trade with them regardless, I expect a trading agreement (without all the BS) to happen very quickly even if we leave on WTO

[vogie]

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

No, the real reason is that he's a life long Brexiteer. If he weren't, he'd be calling for a referendum on the deal on the table or remain. This should be the Labour party's approach but Corbyn would never go for that.

 

Basically, we have a pro Brexit Labour party and a pro Brexit Tory party. Who would the sensible people vote for if there were an election? Lib Dems?

 

There's no hope for us, Democracy is dead, in the UK.

The Labour party had in its manifesto to leave the European Union, as did the the Conservatives. Corbyn is doing what the electorate voted him to do, as is Mrs May, that is why they amassed the lions share of the votes, the Lib Dems had a manifesto to remain in the EU and they did dismally so in the elections. 

Just because the two main partys are not doing what you want does not make it undemocratic.

[melvinmelvin]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Corbyn has failed miserably to capitalize on the Tory infighting over Brexit.

 

The Brexit referendum has only one purpose, an attempt to hold the Tory party together, it’s only succeeded at transmitting the Tory infighting to the whole o the nation.

 

Corbyn is simply not bright enough to make political capital out of the gift of a collapsing Tory Party, a PM who is failing her party and the country and a mass of lies and sordid attempts by the Government to rule by executive edict.

 

The poor s0d believes he can get a deal that he’s been told is not on offer and he further believes that an economy wrecked by Brexit will be able to afford the social reforms he’s promising.

 

The nation is withou a leader and there are no credible candidates on either side of the house.

 

I don't think Corbyn has even tried to benefit from a split Tory,

not so easy when one has an equally split Labour.

 

no wise people either side?

and whose fault is that?  YOURS

 

stick with your antiquated fptp and enjoy lousy parliaments for the foreseeable future

 

fancy uk as a modern democratic state?

drastic redesign of election system - composition of parliament - parliament modus operandii - required

'

 

 

[smedly]

 

 

 

Next steps 30th March

UK and EU can jointly notify the World Trade Organisation (WTO) that in the light of working to agree a comprehensive FTA and future Political Declaration, we are invoking Article 24 of GATT (the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade).

This is important because Article 24 allows us to maintain the same tariff-free access to both our markets without breaching WTO discriminatory Most Favoured Nation (MFN) laws. Article 24 allows “an interim agreement leading to a formation of a free trade area” and allows “a reasonable length of time” – up to 10 years – to negotiate it.

[smedly]

We can also enact the WTO’s Trade Facilitation Agreement which recently came into force that obliges the EU27 to adopt measures like authorised economic operators (trusted traders), which are part of the solution for the Northern Ireland border issue along with electronic declarations and remote checks away from the border.

[smedly]

Next we can initiate full and unfettered negotiations with international trade partners such as the USA, China and India, without these deals being torpedoed by being tied into the EU Customs Union, Chequers or the Backstop. The picture would be clear at last, and not be delayed by unending years of transition. Similarly, we will seek to build on current work to ‘roll over’ the benefits and obligations of existing EU trade deals such as that with South Korea

[Baerboxer]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The tragedy is the only options on the table are one of two failed Parties AND Brexit.

 

That nicely, albeit very worryingly, sums up the current situation.

 

The sensible solution would be to withdraw Article 50 quickly, and sort the UK 'house' out first. But today's politicians aren't driven by sense, what's best for the country and people; only by what's best for them, their career and personal wealth. None have the ability, desire or bottle to face reality and do that.

 

Never have I seen such slimy bare-faced. self-centered. inept, skill-less politicians in the UK than the current crop.

 

At my bank today it's ThB 40.55 for 1 GBP. They think it will stay between 40-41 for the next few weeks but then likely fall another chunk. What's clear is that if there is a no deal Brexit as seems likely, followed by a snap GE returning Corbyn and his loony left cronies, the British economy is doomed.

 

Many Brexiters I know think that all the woes will magically be put right with Brexit. That there will be full employment of British people (all rushing to take those low paid, hard graft, unpleasant jobs only foreigners are willing to do) and that businesses will boom with all these "free trade deals", none of which are in place and likely take many years to conclude despite the punitive taxes a likely Corbyn government would slap on them. 

 

The end of the UK, British values, and what could have been a thriving British economy within the EU, is looming. And the clowns elected to represent the people are playing musical chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

 

 

 

 

[Baerboxer]

25 minutes ago, smedly said:

Next we can initiate full and unfettered negotiations with international trade partners such as the USA, China and India, without these deals being torpedoed by being tied into the EU Customs Union, Chequers or the Backstop. The picture would be clear at last, and not be delayed by unending years of transition. Similarly, we will seek to build on current work to ‘roll over’ the benefits and obligations of existing EU trade deals such as that with South Korea

 

And the US under Trump, China under Xi and India under Modi are all going to quickly give in to the superior UK negotiating skills and sign quick everlasting deals that give the UK all it wants?

 

Whatever you're on, patent it. You'll make a fortune!

[Basil B]

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The tragedy is the only options on the table are one of two failed Parties AND Brexit.

More probably any election will end up with no party with a majority particularly as both major parties will not clearly state what they will do re Brexit.

[Baerboxer]

47 minutes ago, smedly said:

The sensible people already voted to leave the dictorial power grabbing abusive EU, we want no further part of it, there might be 27 countries left when we leave but of that only 5 represent any interest to us, we will continue to trade with them regardless, I expect a trading agreement (without all the BS) to happen very quickly even if we leave on WTO

 

OMG! 

 

So you believed all the lies spouted by Boris, Farage, Gove etc. 

 

When was the last time you were involved on negotiating a trading agreement? Any idea of the timescales?

 

One think that many Leavers share, a simplistic naivety that all woes are down to the evil EU and that all the issues thrown up when leaving can be solved 'just like that' - Tommy Cooper would've been proud!

 

Wonder who they'll blame when the reality sinks in!

[Retiredandhappyhere]

27 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

That nicely, albeit very worryingly, sums up the current situation.

 

The sensible solution would be to withdraw Article 50 quickly, and sort the UK 'house' out first. But today's politicians aren't driven by sense, what's best for the country and people; only by what's best for them, their career and personal wealth. None have the ability, desire or bottle to face reality and do that.

 

Never have I seen such slimy bare-faced. self-centered. inept, skill-less politicians in the UK than the current crop.

 

At my bank today it's ThB 40.55 for 1 GBP. They think it will stay between 40-41 for the next few weeks but then likely fall another chunk. What's clear is that if there is a no deal Brexit as seems likely, followed by a snap GE returning Corbyn and his loony left cronies, the British economy is doomed.

 

Many Brexiters I know think that all the woes will magically be put right with Brexit. That there will be full employment of British people (all rushing to take those low paid, hard graft, unpleasant jobs only foreigners are willing to do) and that businesses will boom with all these "free trade deals", none of which are in place and likely take many years to conclude despite the punitive taxes a likely Corbyn government would slap on them. 

 

The end of the UK, British values, and what could have been a thriving British economy within the EU, is looming. And the clowns elected to represent the people are playing musical chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

 

 

 

 

After reading that lot, I just have a sneaky feeling that you are anti-Brexit, but, of course, I could be wrong.

[soalbundy]

58 minutes ago, Baerboxer said:

 

OMG! 

 

So you believed all the lies spouted by Boris, Farage, Gove etc. 

 

When was the last time you were involved on negotiating a trading agreement? Any idea of the timescales?

 

One think that many Leavers share, a simplistic naivety that all woes are down to the evil EU and that all the issues thrown up when leaving can be solved 'just like that' - Tommy Cooper would've been proud!

 

Wonder who they'll blame when the reality sinks in!

They will speed things up to get our mars bars and baked beans

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

The end of the UK, British values, and what could have been a thriving British economy within the EU, is looming. And the clowns elected to represent the people are playing musical chairs on the deck of the Titanic.

The EU is nothing more than a parasite devouring the remainder from within. 

 

[evadgib]

 

[Spidey]

7 minutes ago, evadgib said:

 

 

Exactly. There's no doubt that each and every EU member will take a hit from Brexit. However, the UK would take a hit roughly equivalent to each and every one of them. Cumulatively, Britain would take a hit far greater than any single EU member. Be careful what you wish for.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

 

And the US under Trump, China under Xi and India under Modi are all going to quickly give in to the superior UK negotiating skills and sign quick everlasting deals that give the UK all it wants?

 

Whatever you're on, patent it. You'll make a fortune!

trade agreements work between countries because they benefit both, problem why the EU trade deals were so divisive was because they had to please so many countries but ultimately it was all for Germany, once the UK is free of this EU debacle we will see how well the UK does once the shackles are off - I already know the answer and so does Brussels 

 

and what am I on - a pure dose of intelligence which seems to be lacking in some on here

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Baerboxer said:

So you believed all the lies spouted by Boris, Farage, Gove etc. 

I believed nothing, like many others we just want out and the sooner the better

 

In fact it was remainers that didn't know what they were voting for when you consider recent developments in the EU and their future plans 

[smedly]

6 minutes ago, Spidey said:

Exactly. There's no doubt that each and every EU member will take a hit from Brexit. However, the UK would take a hit roughly equivalent to each and every one of them. Cumulatively, Britain would take a hit far greater than any single EU member. Be careful what you wish for.

in the short term yes possibly - so what

[evadgib]

Another warning seen today although i'm not sure of the credibility of the source or content:

 

[Spidey]

3 minutes ago, smedly said:

in the short term yes possibly - so what

If it's an economic headache for the EU, it's an economic disaster for the UK.

 

I'm no fan of the EU but I voted remain purely and simply because it made no economic sense at all.

 

It's all very well standing for your principles but it doesn't put the bread on the table.

[smedly]

1 hour ago, Spidey said:

If it's an economic headache for the EU, it's an economic disaster for the UK.

 

I'm no fan of the EU but I voted remain purely and simply because it made no economic sense at all.

 

It's all very well standing for your principles but it doesn't put the bread on the table.

you have your opinion, I do not agree, we will do better on our own, don't believe all the doom and gloom crap you read, we will continue to trade with the EU at similar levels we have now, they will try to limit our abilities to compete as we see already but it won't work, we will be free to do what is best for us without interference 

 

The EU will collapse with or without us, we are better off out before it does, UK leaving will no doubt speed things up.

 

What will be left is a 2x speed EU with about 5 countries as Primary and the rest secondary effectively splitting the EU in two, that could be interpreted as 5 countries leaving and forming their own trade partnership giving the middle finger to the rest

 

and if you think I'm talking out my ass go look it up, it's been proposed already 

[bizboi]

5 hours ago, Spidey said:

No, the real reason is that he's a life long Brexiteer. If he weren't, he'd be calling for a referendum on the deal on the table or remain. This should be the Labour party's approach but Corbyn would never go for that.

 

Basically, we have a pro Brexit Labour party and a pro Brexit Tory party. Who would the sensible people vote for if there were an election? Lib Dems?

 

There's no hope for us, Democracy is dead, in the UK.

If youre so worried about Democracy being dead you must be pro Brexit after all THE MAJORITY voted for it  - that WAS the will of the people despite what remoaners say!! I think its obvious both parties are split  - Corbyn is an incompetent who can’t get voted into power on his policies so he lies to students about cancelling their loans and admits it freely when even on that lie he loses the election - his only hope is that Dianne Abbott can convince people that she will bring in another three trillion police for 7 pounds forty eight!!