I am more or less certain the flight will be with BA direct to LHR as it i sthe national airline which i believe has to be used for deportees 

Good luck and i hope the process to getting on the planes goes as painlessly as possible

1 minute ago, Pauline Robb said:

We haven't been told which airlines, however someone stated further up on this thread that it might only be BA for an option because he is a deportee. This is a question for us to ask BE. We will check the link once we have been told.

The Embassy will advise you on the choices. You will be very limited in the choice. National carriers have to carry deportees, so British Airways is the preferred choice.

 

You might have an alternative with Ukrainian Airlines, up until a few years ago they carried deportees, they did carry someone I knew to from Bangkok to Austria. Sri Lankan might be another choice, but I am not sure about their current policy regarding deportees. 

 

Other than that, I can confirm that major airlines such as Emirates, Qatar and so on will not carry deportees unless being nationals of that country.

 

 

Its rather chilly in the UK now, if hes only wearing shorts and slip slops some extra clothing will be needed, either this end or the other

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12 minutes ago, Goinghomesoon said:

I spent several years dealing with the IDC a few times a week. There is a travel agent in the IDC who is very good at finding flights.  They need to be particular airlines (as others have noted) but also at particular times of day since the deportees - there are usually more than one in the transport vehicle - will be taken to a couple of other locations enroute to collect paperwork.  Family/friends can buy the tickets themselves, and often do if they are in Thailand, but need to work closely with the IDC to ensure their timeline requirements are met.  As Sheryl notes above, you will want your family member out of the IDC ASAP since they will be housed in very crowded accommodation with terrible sanitation and minimal access to medical care.  Everyone is housed together - visa overstayers and those who have completed prison sentences, sometimes for some extremely serious and violent crimes.  There are also a fair number of mental health cases.  Not a great place to be. 

 

On a positive note, well done for assisting your family member and researching what is best for him.  I wish there were more like you.  There are some very sad cases in the IDC where families do not have the means to pay for a ticket home (often from developing countries), or want nothing to do with their family member.

All family are in the UK, we will work with BE to get him back to the UK asap.

 

thanks for your kind reply

I would like to thank each and every one of you for replying to my post.

55 minutes ago, lkv said:

The Embassy will advise you on the choices. You will be very limited in the choice. National carriers have to carry deportees, so British Airways is the preferred choice.

 

You might have an alternative with Ukrainian Airlines, up until a few years ago they carried deportees, they did carry someone I knew to from Bangkok to Austria. Sri Lankan might be another choice, but I am not sure about their current policy regarding deportees. 

 

Other than that, I can confirm that major airlines such as Emirates, Qatar and so on will not carry deportees unless being nationals of that country.

 

 

Ukranian, Sri Lankan, Emirates, Qatar, etc don't operate direct flights from BKK to LHR, so they would almost certainly be ruled out for that reason alone in any event. AFAIK the only airlines other than BA that fly directly from BKK to LHR are THAI and EVA. Don't know what their attitude is towards carrying deportees, though. 

Edited January 7, 20197 yr by OJAS

1 hour ago, tifino said:

will the Thai's upp the costs, by making you(r) family fund an extra seat for a chaperone to make sure you go back home country?

That isn't the process I've heard, the deportee is escorted on to the plane, his passport is handed to the flight crew who return it to him at the destination airport. As the UK flight will be direct he cannot go anywhere but to the UK.

14 minutes ago, OJAS said:

Ukranian, Sri Lankan, Emirates, Qatar, etc don't operate direct flights from BKK to LHR, so they would almost certainly be ruled out for that reason alone in any event. 

Not really, they could carry deportees via transit if they wanted to, they just don't want to.

 

Carrying a deportee is different than carrying a regular passenger, from check-in, escorted to plane, passport kept by Captain and handed back at destination and so on.

 

On the other hand, airlines such as Ukrainian like every dollar and they would carry a deportee Bangkok - Kiev - Vienna. Or at least they did in the past when I booked the ticket for that guy I mentioned.

 

However, if the second choice of airline means spending extra days in IDC, creating delays, I will advise, as others did, British Airways.

 

IDC Bangkok is the last place I would want to spend my time, sleeping on mattresses (if available), on the floor with 40 other people in the same room, 23 hours a day.

Edited January 7, 20197 yr by lkv

2 hours ago, overherebc said:

Offers of we can reverse decision on deportation and blacklisting etc.

 

No-one can do that, especially for Joe Public.

 

Yes, some can. It’s expensive but you can get a blacklist reversed. I know this for a fact.

13 minutes ago, Pauline Robb said:

I would like to thank each and every one of you for replying to my post.

You are welcome, it must be a rather stressful time. One consultation is that it is the cold season here so the IDC is less bad, night temperatures are about 25C days 33C

 

if you want to know exactly why getting him out quickly is a really good idea you might want to watch this undercover video from YouTube 

 

 

45 minutes ago, lkv said:

IDC Bangkok is the last place I would want to spend my time, sleeping on mattresses (if available), on the floor with 40 other people in the same room, 23 hours a day.

So about the same as flying in a torture seat inside of a sardine can from many western countries.

2 hours ago, Pauline Robb said:

Yeah you are probably right about LHR.

 

Many thanks for your advice

Check flights to Hong Kong, used to work before as a British protectorate.

What would happen if you had no means at all to get a ticket home?

7 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

What would happen if you had no means at all to get a ticket home?

You stay in IDC until you have.

1 minute ago, overherebc said:

You stay in IDC until you have.

Sounds like fun

7 hours ago, PoorSucker said:

Check flights to Hong Kong, used to work before as a British protectorate.

Think you'll find that doesn't work.

10 hours ago, Pauline Robb said:

We will stick with the embassy and ignore anyone else that tries to contact us. We just weren't sure when they said Thailand will look at flight options, we have already been looking at flights and found some reasonably priced. However god knows what they will sting us for in the end.

For deportation they will require it to be directly to the UK (ie London Heathrow), likely BA. 

If you purchase ticket for the person, will the Airline insist on seeing the credit card that was used to pay for the ticket at the check in desk? some airlines at Bangkok airport observe this rule more than others

3 minutes ago, jacko45k said:

For deportation they will require it to be directly to the UK (ie London Heathrow), likely BA. 

That will 99.9% be a given.

1 minute ago, digbeth said:

If you purchase ticket for the person, will the Airline insist on seeing the credit card that was used to pay for the ticket at the check in desk? some airlines at Bangkok airport observe this rule more than others

No they won't. They are fully informed and aware of all the facts prior to your arrival at the airport.

8 hours ago, sometimewoodworker said:

You are welcome, it must be a rather stressful time.

I am sure your video helped immensely!!!

1 minute ago, jacko45k said:

I am sure your video helped immensely!!!

Agree, not helpful. Would be nice to see it deleted.

If he has no money at all, then you will have also to pay his overstay fine in addition to the plane ticket.

 

Sophon

12 hours ago, Pauline Robb said:

 

Sorry but as we have never had to do this before, we just reached out for some advice!!

Don’t worry about this response unfortunately there are some sad people using this site who seem to have nothing better to do than criticize anything and everything.

Fortunately the majority are very helpful.

After all the site is there to help people

Good Luck.

12 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I'm a bit surprised by positive replies. A family member asks for advice for UK national banged up for overstay and has zero funds. Why can't that family member approach other family/friends to pay overstay and flight. More simple start a gofundme. 

The lady was asking for advice and information re procedure.

Money was never mentioned.

 

Your response was regrettable, ill-informed and unnecessary.

Edited January 8, 20197 yr by rott

12 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

I'm a bit surprised by positive replies. A family member asks for advice for UK national banged up for overstay and has zero funds. Why can't that family member approach other family/friends to pay overstay and flight. More simple start a gofundme. 

I am not saying that this is the case here, but if a person deliberately overstays and gets caught, then anyone who contributes to a gofundme, needs their head looked at.

9 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

I am not saying that this is the case here, but if a person deliberately overstays and gets caught, then anyone who contributes to a gofundme, needs their head looked at.

No one knows or cares why he was on overstay.

He put his hand up and admitted to overstay and his family are helping.

6 minutes ago, overherebc said:

No one knows or cares why he was on overstay.

He put his hand up and admitted to overstay and his family are helping.

It is possible he could have made a mistake with the dates, anyone can do that. Although he put his hand up, no one knows the full reason for his overstay.

2 hours ago, digbeth said:

If you purchase ticket for the person, will the Airline insist on seeing the credit card that was used to pay for the ticket at the check in desk? some airlines at Bangkok airport observe this rule more than others

This happened on board a Train (ICE) (Frankfurt to Schwabach) in Germany, many years ago. Only option was to buy another ticket, but the original was refunded many months later with some 'surcharges'.

 

If one decide to travel, make sure he/she has money. Never travel on a shoestring budget. When things go smooth, all will be tickety boo, the agony erupts when thing don' t go the way you planned.

 

It is useless to blame all and sundry when you do the mistake! It is only money that will solve these issues anywhere in the world.

 

Good luck to this guy and hope he returns home fast!

A lesson learnt, for all.