British lawmakers instruct May to demand EU reopen Brexitdeal; EU says 'No'

[melvinmelvin]

6 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Its not shown in your post.

works just fine for me,

maybe your computer suffer from hangover today

 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Why are you peddling that myth again after it was debunked on at least two previous attempts?

Because I can back my statement up with facts:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-betrayal-march-tommy-robinson-ukip-attendance-figure-far-right-protest-a8675246.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/20/70000-demand-new-brexit-vote

 

way with you and your gaslighting 

 

 

[welovesundaysatspace]

14 minutes ago, talahtnut said:

The UK government have been screwing the working

class for many years.

Enjoy that.

And because the working class has already been screwed “for many years” (assuming that’s true), you screw them even more? Geniuses. 

[evadgib]

Just now, Chomper Higgot said:

Because I can back my statement up with facts:

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/brexit-betrayal-march-tommy-robinson-ukip-attendance-figure-far-right-protest-a8675246.html

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/oct/20/70000-demand-new-brexit-vote

 

way with you and your gaslighting 

 

 

...as did i when debunking (& cannot be bothered to do so again....at least not yet!) ☺️

[nauseus]

5 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

When is the next regular GE in UK?

 

 

That's a tough one. Scheduled for 2022 but...................

[dick dasterdly]

8 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The fat lady hasn’t sung yet.

Yes, I agree.

 

It may be the last, desperate chance of MPs desperately hoping that sentiment has changed to swing a remain vote.....

 

I suspect this is not the case - but obviously could be wrong.

[dick dasterdly]

9 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said:

works just fine for me,

maybe your computer suffer from hangover today

 

 

Good point - I've been suffering endless problems from my laptop, and it obviously needs to be replaced .

[nauseus]

1 minute ago, dick dasterdly said:

Good point - I've been suffering endless problems from my laptop, and it obviously needs to be replaced .

It wasn't obvious Dick.

 

This is the full link:

https://brexitcentral.com/remainers-wont-get-brexit-understand-caricature-brexiteers-entirely-wrong/

 

[melvinmelvin]

2 minutes ago, nauseus said:

That's a tough one. Scheduled for 2022 but...................

right,

yes of course, if parliament for some reason should ditch the government,

or the government should opt to throw in the towel it will come earlier

 

just wondering,

assuming Brexit one way or the other happens end of March,

a solid portion of the UK plebs is bound to be fairly unhappy

 

The GE will be 3 years (+) later

Will this Brexit mess have any significant impact on the voting at all?

Voters, in general, have a very short memory.

 

just wondering

 

 

[dick dasterdly]

18 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Go back to the original (& click on the key word)????

Nope, nothing there that leads to another link.

 

Mind you, another poster may well be right - it's just my laptop playing up .

[dick dasterdly]

8 minutes ago, nauseus said:

It wasn't obvious Dick.

 

This is the full link:

https://brexitcentral.com/remainers-wont-get-brexit-understand-caricature-brexiteers-entirely-wrong/

 

Thank you!

 

An obviously biased link, so I take it in the same way as I do obviously biased opinions in the opposite direction.

[nauseus]

Just now, melvinmelvin said:

right,

yes of course, if parliament for some reason should ditch the government,

or the government should opt to throw in the towel it will come earlier

 

just wondering,

assuming Brexit one way or the other happens end of March,

a solid portion of the UK plebs is bound to be fairly unhappy

 

 The GE will be 3 years (+) later

Will this Brexit mess have any significant impact on the voting at all?

Voters, in general, have a very short memory.

 

just wondering

 

 

Well we all now that TM can call a GE on impulse or poor advice and that these impulses or advisors are not very helpful. There are so many other variables now that might trigger another GE at any time.

 

As far as your "plebs" go, well I suppose that such a group will exist in people's minds, whether you are for or against Brexit. I'm sure that Brexit will have an effect on voting in the next GE - whatever happens it will not be soon forgotten - as there is a great division of the people (as you can see from all these TV topics). Brexit has brought about an expanded level of political awareness and interest in the UK that has probably never existed before, which concerns both UK and the EU.

 

[nauseus]

13 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Thank you!

 

An obviously biased link, so I take it in the same way as I do obviously biased opinions in the opposite direction.

Well it is a pro leave site, Dick. But I think the comment is actually, broadly, fair and true.

[dick dasterdly]

15 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Well it is a pro leave site, Dick. But I think the comment is actually, broadly, fair and true.

Yes, but quoting such obviously biased sites doesn't really help.

 

Having said this, nobody is going to change their mind at this point - so we're all just posting to vent our opinion?

[JAG]

2 hours ago, Grouse said:

Fine words.

 

A pity the average Brexiter isn't bright enough to understand them.

You really are a condescending arrogant individual aren't you?

[nauseus]

11 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Yes, but quoting such obviously biased sites doesn't really help.

 

Having said this, nobody is going to change their mind at this point - so we're all just posting to vent our opinion?

Yep. Venting from wherever! ????

[madmen]

Latest new is disturbing if it pans out. UK will be hit with the mother of all recessions . Maybe trade a 50 pound note [emoji386] for a bowl of boiled rice?

 

https://finance.nine.com.au/2019/02/02/04/09/brexit-uk-european-union-theresa-may-business-finance-economy-firms

 

 

[melvinmelvin]

7 minutes ago, madmen said:

Latest new is disturbing if it pans out. UK will be hit with the mother of all recessions . Maybe trade a 50 pound noted for a bowl of boiled rice?

https://finance.nine.com.au/2019/02/02/04/09/brexit-uk-european-union-theresa-may-business-finance-economy-firms

regarding the possible increase in prices;

 

 

 

[melvinmelvin]

29 minutes ago, dick dasterdly said:

Yes, but quoting such obviously biased sites doesn't really help.

 

Having said this, nobody is going to change their mind at this point - so we're all just posting to vent our opinion?

 

keep on venting DD, that is sound

 

stop venting and matters become staler than necessary

 

[nauseus]

18 minutes ago, madmen said:

Latest new is disturbing if it pans out. UK will be hit with the mother of all recessions . Maybe trade a 50 pound note for a bowl of boiled rice?

 

https://finance.nine.com.au/2019/02/02/04/09/brexit-uk-european-union-theresa-may-business-finance-economy-firms

 

 

Similar to many similar old "news" stories. Interesting to see that the "recession" word is not used once in this article, so why claim this "mother of all recessions". Hard to credit the quoted percentages of British businesses considering relocating (29%), when less than 10% of UK businesses actually trade with the EU.  

 

Must try harder. 1000 lines.

 

[evadgib]

5 hours ago, evadgib said:

...as did i when debunking (& cannot be bothered to do so again....at least not yet!) ☺️

As chomper has given this his customary stamp it's worth noting that the 'Facts' he has thrice presented were debunked by the disclosure of official data from the Met who were policing the events and by video evidence uploaded in real time by people in the much-bigger-than-he-says crowd(s) ????

Edited February 2, 2019 by evadgib

[welovesundaysatspace]

4 hours ago, evadgib said:

As chomper has given this his customary stamp it's worth noting that the 'Facts' he has thrice presented were debunked by the disclosure of official data from the Met who were policing the events and by video evidence uploaded in real time by people in the much-bigger-than-he-says crowd(s) ????

What “official data” is that? Could

you please provide that. Because here it says a number of half million up could be realistic: https://fullfact.org/news/did-670000-march-peoples-vote-brexit/

[tomacht8]

8 hours ago, nauseus said:

Similar to many similar old "news" stories. Interesting to see that the "recession" word is not used once in this article, so why claim this "mother of all recessions". Hard to credit the quoted percentages of British businesses considering relocating (29%), when less than 10% of UK businesses actually trade with the EU.  

 

Must try harder. 1000 lines.

 

You must try harder.

 

Your are right. 90% of UK Business company's  are not trade with the EU because they are SMEs.

SME are Micro, small and medium sized.
In the UK 89,3 % from all enterprises are micro sized. These are, for example, all hairdressers, small craftsmen, tax consultants and all small self-employed. And 8.8% are small enterprises.
These company size classes are not at all affected by EU regulations.

The situation is different for the medium (1,5%) and large (0,4%) size classes.

Inform your self how many people are employed in the respective company size classes.

Then you would better understand the scope of Brexit with regard to the number of employees affected.

 

Only one medium or large company can mean thousands of jobs.

Your argument is wrong if you do not take into account how many employees the company has.

 

You compare a 1 man company with a big company like Nissan.

 

And if you would know what a 

company directors is, then you would know which company size categories were surveyed.

 

 

"Nearly a third of UK firms may shift their operations abroad over Britain's looming departure from the European Union, a survey of 1200 company directors suggested today"

 

 

 

Edited February 2, 2019 by tomacht8

[nauseus]

15 minutes ago, tomacht8 said:

You must try harder.

 

Your are right. 90% of UK Business company's  are not trade with the EU because they are SMEs.

SME are Micro, small and medium sized.
In the UK 89,3 % from all enterprises are micro sized. These are, for example, all hairdressers, small craftsmen, tax consultants and all small self-employed. And 8.8% are small enterprises.
These company size classes are not at all affected by EU regulations.

The situation is different for the medium (1,5%) and large (0,4%) size classes.

Inform your self how many people are employed in the respective company size classes.

Then you would better understand the scope of Brexit with regard to the number of employees affected.

 

Only one medium or large company can mean thousands of jobs.

Your argument is wrong if you do not take into account how many employees the company has.

 

You compare a 1 man company with a big company like Nissan.

 

And if you would know what a 

company directors is, then you would know which company size categories were surveyed.

 

 

 

I wasn't replying to you but if you care to read the linked article properly it does also mention small businesses but certainly does not mention the "mother of all recessions". The only thing I'm comparing is the claims in the post to what is said in the link attached to it. That is all.

 

All UK businesses are affected by EU regulations - this is part of the problem.

 

 

[Grouse]

15 hours ago, talahtnut said:

 Cognitive bias, wherein people of low ability suffer from illusory superiority, of course, we all know that is not you..just saying.

 

Cognitive dissonance I think is more likely.

 

You can joke but the dumbing down of the masses is a genuine worry. People have so many sources of information at their finger tips but actually know far less than was typically the case before the ascent of digital media.

 

Discuss.

[Grouse]

15 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Couldn't agree more.

 

Superior education or intelligence indicate pretty much nothing when it comes to issues like this - as they are bound by their own 'spheres'.

 

The result of leaving the eu is largely unknown, but we can be fairly sure that ignoring the referendum result is not going to go down well with those in leave constituencies.

We don't care. It's a moronic idea.

[Grouse]

15 hours ago, talahtnut said:

The UK government have been screwing the working

class for many years.

Enjoy that.

Correct!

 

So let's blame the EU!????

[Grouse]

15 hours ago, evadgib said:

Why are you peddling that myth again after it was debunked on at least two previous attempts?

Kindly provide the correct numbers.

 

[this will be good]

[Grouse]

15 hours ago, evadgib said:

Go back to the original (& click on the key word)????

You have to explain things VERY S L O W L Y....

 

 

[Grouse]

15 hours ago, nauseus said:

It wasn't obvious Dick.

 

This is the full link:

https://brexitcentral.com/remainers-wont-get-brexit-understand-caricature-brexiteers-entirely-wrong/

 

Aw! How sweet! I love the way Brexiters help each other! Bless????