Best place to get a Non Immigrant O Visa (without bank statements)?

[Sidsid]

Hey all,

 

I need to renew my Non Immigrant O Visa (based on marriage) but I won't have access to my bank statements for a while. Where can I go (In Asia) and get the visa without supplying bank statements?

 

Thanks!

[ubonjoe]

You can get a single entry non-o visa in Vientiane or Savannakhet Laos with no financial proof. Or a multiple entry non-o in Savannakhet.

Also at the consulate in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam.

[ubonjoe]

4 minutes ago, tomster said:

Do you know if there is any kind of minimal period you need to be married before applying for a multiple entry non O visa in either Savannakhet or HCM?

You could get married one day and apply for the visa the next day it you wanted to.

[Jeffrey346]

Did mine in Savannakhet.. Was a breeze..

[Kyri]

Is the Savannakhet visa still going to be available with the new laws on retirement ? I did the Savannakhet one for about three years then changed last year to retirement with a agent but that option seems won't be working anymore. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

[ubonjoe]

58 minutes ago, Kyri said:

Is the Savannakhet visa still going to be available with the new laws on retirement ? I did the Savannakhet one for about three years then changed last year to retirement with a agent but that option seems won't be working anymore. Any advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Immigration rule changes do not affect visa applications. No reason for Savannakhet to change their requirements.

[Kyri]

Ubonjoe thank you very much for your reply. Could i please bother you to give me the info for all documents needed for a 1 year multiple entry non o for marraige.Thanks again.

[overherebc]

25 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Immigration rule changes do not affect visa applications. No reason for Savannakhet to change their requirements.

While I fully agree with you on your answer, being retired, both of us, and travelling a lot I always update my bank book and take copies with me just as a belt and braces sort of thing.

Things can and do change in the space of a few days.

I'm an ex boy scout, be prepared. ????

[Giorgos]

Why for NON O visa you need bank statements??? Exept if is for one year visa. 

[ubonjoe]

10 hours ago, Kyri said:

Could i please bother you to give me the info for all documents needed for a 1 year multiple entry non o for marraige.Thanks again.

Marriage certificate plus a copy, copies of you wife's house book registry and ID card signed by her.

[jamden]

You can get a single entry non-o visa in Vientiane or Savannakhet Laos with no financial proof. Or a multiple entry non-o in Savannakhet.

Hi Joe, I plan to drive from Chiang Mai to Vientiane with family for short holiday and get an extension of stay based in retirement (with no proof of funds).

As they only issue a 'single entry" how does it affect a 1 year visa, would I need to leave Thailand every 90 day or whatever?

[Kyri]

Ubonjoe Thank you very much i guess also copies of all the pages in my passport ? I am just scared i get there and i just need something else sorry to be a pain . + Marriage certificate plus a copy, copies of you wife's house book registry and ID card signed by her. Thanks again.

[ubonjoe]

43 minutes ago, jamden said:

You can get a single entry non-o visa in Vientiane or Savannakhet Laos with no financial proof. Or a multiple entry non-o in Savannakhet.

Hi Joe, I plan to drive from Chiang Mai to Vientiane with family for short holiday and get an extension of stay based in retirement (with no proof of funds).

As they only issue a 'single entry" how does it affect a 1 year visa, would I need to leave Thailand every 90 day or whatever?

You cannot apply for an extension of stay at a embassy or consulate. You can only apply at a immigration office and that requires financial proof.

If married to a Thai you could only get a single entry non-o visa that allows one 90 day entry in Vientiane.

In Savannakhet you could get a multiple entry non-o visa that allows unlimited 90 day entries for a year from the date of issue.

[jamden]

32 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

You cannot apply for an extension of stay at a embassy or consulate. You can only apply at a immigration office and that requires financial proof.

If married to a Thai you could only get a single entry non-o visa that allows one 90 day entry in Vientiane.

In Savannakhet you could get a multiple entry non-o visa that allows unlimited 90 day entries for a year from the date of issue.

so with the marriage visa we need to do a border run every 90 days? is that any border? and from Embassy?

[4evermaat]

8 hours ago, jamden said:

so with the marriage visa we need to do a border run every 90 days? is that any border? and from Embassy?

obtaining the ME non-immigrant visa must be from an embassy or official consulate; honorary consulates only do single entry visas).

 

With multiple entry (ME) non-o visa, you would need to do a border run approximately every 90 days from the date of entry.  Any land or air border that allows same-day "Out-In" border runs are ok.  Very few do not (Poipet / Aranyaprathet is a notable exception, Sadao/Danok may require overnight stay, etc).

 

Where in Thailand do you plan to stay primarily?  That would help us locate the nearest or most practical border for you.

[mrwebb8825]

UbonJoe, any thoughts or rumors as to when they'll get everything figured out for us folks that are married, on Non-O extentions, don't have 400k in the bank BUT DO earn over 45k a month? Have heard various stories about the finacial side based on which immigration office is visited. Don't they all ultimately go to Chang Wattana from where ever you apply?

Is a yearly trip to Savannakhet or HCMC going to be the (temperary) new norm for those of us that do not have seasoned funds in the bank? Is the Non-O, single entry from these places good for a year or are they good for 90 days that need to be extended at immigration in country?

If they're good for the whole year with only 90 day reporting then that's great. If they're only good for 90 days and need extended then that kind of goes full circle back to needing the bank funds.

Wish they'd create a 5-10yr visa for those of us that have been married for over 10 years. 

[BritTim]

3 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Is the Non-O, single entry from these places good for a year or are they good for 90 days that need to be extended at immigration in country?

If they're good for the whole year with only 90 day reporting then that's great.

A multiple entry Non O visa is valid for one year, but each stay can only be for 90 days. (You can get a single 60-day extension on each entry without financial proof.) Usually, people using Non O visas to stay in Thailand will do border runs every 90 days to get a fresh 90-day entry. Some members here will tell you that this is not the intended purpose of a Non O visa (to stay full-time in Thailand) and they may be right. However, people have long been doing it without problems.

[ubonjoe]

53 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

UbonJoe, any thoughts or rumors as to when they'll get everything figured out for us folks that are married, on Non-O extentions, don't have 400k in the bank BUT DO earn over 45k a month?

Nothing has changed for extensions based upon marriage. It is still 400k baht in the bank for 2 months or proof of 40k baht income.

The only difference is the way income is proved if you cannot get a letter from your embassy to prove your income. You now need to show at least 40k baht going into a Thai bank account on a monthly basis.

53 minutes ago, mrwebb8825 said:

Don't they all ultimately go to Chang Wattana from where ever you apply?

Only those applied for in Bangkok and those offices located in the central region that are under Immigration Division 3.

The others are approved by 3 other divisions in the North East (division 4), North (division 5) and South (division 6).

[homemade514]

i went to HCMC 3 weeks ago for this same visa, very simple and highly recommended.

[Nong Khai Man]

On 1/31/2019 at 12:27 PM, tomster said:

Rightho, I think the way forward for me is now clear.

 

Thank you Joe, for all the help.

 

 

I Can Hear " Wedding Bells "

[Nong Khai Man]

On 1/31/2019 at 9:04 PM, ubonjoe said:

Immigration rule changes do not affect visa applications. No reason for Savannakhet to change their requirements.

 No reason for Savannakhet to change their requirements.......Unless Vientianne ORDERS Them too " Eh Joe ??

[ubonjoe]

30 minutes ago, Nong Khai Man said:

Unless Vientianne ORDERS Them too " Eh Joe ??

Why would they do it. No reason for them to change it.

[JackThompson]

1 hour ago, Nong Khai Man said:

 No reason for Savannakhet to change their requirements.......Unless Vientianne ORDERS Them too "

The orders would more likely come in the form of an incentive and/or demand from those who would profit from a fraction of the people using those visas to pay their agent-buddies, instead.  Even if 75% are forced-out, that's still agent-fee shared-profits on the other 25%. 

 

Given immigration have made it increasingly difficult to get a legit extension based on marriage to a Thai, including a "back-door" seasoning increase during "under consideration" (at some offices), the fate of the families that lose their breadwinner appears not to be a high-priority in policy-formulation.

 

OTOH, the fact that this option has not been closed, indicates two possibilities.  Perhaps, there is a faction in decision-making circles that does care - or - the numbers of people using this option are small enough, that a target has not been painted on our backs, yet. 

 

If a crackdown occurred, the first step might be adding financials to the application - like is done now in Penang and Kuala Lumpur.  Reports indicate an embassy-letter from your embassy in Malaysia works for these, so one from your embassy in Laos or Vietnam could also work.

[Kyri]

Sorry to be a pain . I am on a retirement visa which expires next month but now have to go back to Savannakhet marraige non o multiple entry because of new changes. Will i still need to get a single entry from immigration as my retirement visa was not multiple entry?, I am guessing that leaving and then getting a multiple entry non o marraige i won't need to get a reentry. Sorry for the dumb question. All advice will be greatly appreciated.

[lopburi3]

13 minutes ago, Kyri said:

Sorry to be a pain . I am on a retirement visa which expires next month but now have to go back to Savannakhet marraige non o multiple entry because of new changes. Will i still need to get a single entry from immigration as my retirement visa was not multiple entry?, I am guessing that leaving and then getting a multiple entry non o marraige i won't need to get a reentry. Sorry for the dumb question. All advice will be greatly appreciated.

You just go to Savannakhet with the above mentioned documents/passport/5000 baht to obtain a multi entry non immigrant O visa on basis of your marriage to a Thai.  No you will not need any re-entry permit and can come/go as you wish - but not stay more than 90 days unless you go to immigration for a 60 day extension of stay (no financials required but only once per entry).  

[Kyri]

Lopburi 3 thanks for the reply. I did the Savannakhet marraige non o for about three years then changed to the retirement one last year with a agent now things have changed and i have to go back to the marraige non o . I was just worried because i was told that if i leave Thailand i need to get a re entry which does not make much sense now that i will be getting a multple entry with the marraige visa.

Thank you very much.

[JackThompson]

15 hours ago, Kyri said:

Lopburi 3 thanks for the reply. I did the Savannakhet marraige non o for about three years then changed to the retirement one last year with a agent now things have changed and i have to go back to the marraige non o . I was just worried because i was told that if i leave Thailand i need to get a re entry which does not make much sense now that i will be getting a multple entry with the marraige visa.

Thank you very much.

A re-entry permit would keep your existing retirement permission-to-stay alive when you return.  I assume you will be going to get the Non-O-ME when your existing permit-to-stay is almost over?  It would not make sense to "preserve" the permitted-stay (which is about to expire?), if your goal is to change obtain a new permitted stay provided by entering with the Non-O-Visa (which will be 90-days).

[Iamthatbrett]

On 2/1/2019 at 9:18 AM, ubonjoe said:

You cannot apply for an extension of stay at a embassy or consulate. You can only apply at a immigration office and that requires financial proof.

If married to a Thai you could only get a single entry non-o visa that allows one 90 day entry in Vientiane.

In Savannakhet you could get a multiple entry non-o visa that allows unlimited 90 day entries for a year from the date of issue.

Hi Joe. 
Is this information for Savannakhet multiple entry non-o visa still valid? My situation requires this visa and will be traveling from CNX to undertake. 
Thanks in advance. 

[ubonjoe]

13 minutes ago, Iamthatbrett said:

Is this information for Savannakhet multiple entry non-o visa still valid?

Yes it is still correct.

[Iamthatbrett]

On 11/18/2019 at 1:04 PM, ubonjoe said:

Yes it is still correct.

Thanks Joe. Will keep you posted on what happens when we go next week. 
cheers