How are westerners working in clubs in Thailand?

[mrblonde]

As above, been a frequent party goer in Pattaya for several years now and noticed how many bars/clubs had western (UK) dj’s working on them, a few nights a week. How are these guys doing this? 

[Orton Rd]

Illegally?

[jackdd]

Is being a DJ forbidden for foreigners?

[mrblonde]

3 hours ago, jackdd said:

Is being a DJ forbidden for foreigners?

 

No idea, I assumed it was classed as working? 

[LomSak27]

Nothing to do OP, than report then to BJ.

 

Don't be shy now

[balo]

Most of them foreigners on the islands working in bars/clubs do not have a work permit.

 

But if you play in a band or maybe DJ you can get a permit, but  would think it would cost you. I think most of them are working illegally. 

 

  

[jackdd]

7 hours ago, mrblonde said:

 

No idea, I assumed it was classed as working? 

Foreigners are allowed to work in Thailand, just need a work permit (if the specific job is not forbidden for foreigners)

[dotpoom]

Funny you should ask. I've moved back to Jomtien recently, seen some young Farang men "pulling" customers to go into the bar where they are "working".

  Reminded me of my times in Torrimolinos (Spain).

[PaulDee]

And I've seen many Western ladies "pulling" customers

into bars along Walking Street...not to mention their

dancing in windows, on stage and--dare I say--maybe

in private!

[KhunBENQ]

Hard to believe that foreign singers/performers on Pattaya WS work illegally.

You might hide out on some remote island but not on WS or the like.

Or is my believe not strong enough?

 

Work permits (usually temporary) for "performers" are issued in other countries too.

Otherwise you couldn't even see a live concert of foreign artists.

 

Just browsed over the list of forbidden jobs and can't find something that would forbid music performance/DJ work in general. Of course still a WP is needed.

 

Bar manager (popular foreigners job in Pattaya) is also not on the list.

Just don't clean a table or serve a beer to a client.

Just sit and command

Edited February 3, 2019 by KhunBENQ

[KhunBENQ]

6 minutes ago, PaulDee said:

And I've seen many Western ladies "pulling" customers

into bars along Walking Street...not to mention their

dancing in windows, on stage and--dare I say--maybe

in private!

Also artistic performance

And as prostitution is forbidden in Thailand they can't be in competition to locals.

[thesetat2013]

44 minutes ago, dotpoom said:

Funny you should ask. I've moved back to Jomtien recently, seen some young Farang men "pulling" customers to go into the bar where they are "working".

  Reminded me of my times in Torrimolinos (Spain).

Yea.. on walking street last night i was approached several times by foreigners trying to pull me into the bars with sex shows. They must ne working illegally and taking thai jobs away. But i am certain this is happening with the knowledge of the police and authorities. They are doing right in front of them

[HLover]

8 minutes ago, thesetat2013 said:

Yea.. on walking street last night i was approached several times by foreigners trying to pull me into the bars with sex shows. They must ne working illegally and taking thai jobs away. But i am certain this is happening with the knowledge of the police and authorities. They are doing right in front of them

Were they females or annoying males?

[Ks45672]

38 minutes ago, HLover said:

Were they females or annoying males?

Sometimes you need a detailed inspection to ascertain that... ????

[Mavideol]

they have been lucky until you mention it.....next targets for BJ

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, dotpoom said:

Funny you should ask. I've moved back to Jomtien recently, seen some young Farang men "pulling" customers to go into the bar where they are "working".

  Reminded me of my times in Torrimolinos (Spain).

that was long long time ago.... been there done that in Torremolinos and Marbella

[khunPer]

See plenty of them, foreign DJs, where I live, named and advertised, some very well known that can fill a venue with entrance paying guests. Foreign DJ's of course has a work permit, just like any other famous foreign artist performing in Thailand, what else..?????

[SS1]

If they are just visiting DJs it would be OK according to the latest law change, although it's still unclear how it'd be enforced. 

 

"The changes were introduced on March 27, 2018, when the Emergency Decree on Non-Thais’ Working Management (No.2) (2018) (“Decree No. 2”) was issued. Decree No. 2 amended Decree No. 1.

According to Decree No 2:

A. The following non-Thais can carry out certain activities in Thailand without a work permit:

(1) *a non-Thai who comes to Thailand on a short-term periodic basis to: hold or to attend a meeting, lecture, seminar, training, exhibition of art or culture, or sports competition; provide an opinion; inspect work of others; or, any other activities, as prescribed by the Council of Ministers.*

(2) a non-Thai who enters into Thailand to: operate a business; make an investment; or who has knowledge, ability, or skills that are considered beneficial to the development of the country;

(3) a non-Thai legal representative (e.g. director) of an alien juristic person that is licensed to operate business under the Foreign Business Act (1999);

Decree No 2 also reveals that work permit applications can now be filed electronically.

It should be noted that for all other instances foreigners still need a work permit to work legally in Thailand."

[XzytePattaya]

Dj or even modeling /  singing is working, so if you get paid you need a working permit. However when you are a tourist and the owner give you some beers, they don't do difficult, Yo you have a 1 year visa , they will take you apart. 

[fusion58]

In Bangkok, there are clubs where foreign musicians and DJs without work permits are able to perform because the proprietors of these establishments proffer the requisite brown envelopes.

 

I suspect the same sort of arrangement exists in other parts of the country.

[NCC1701A]

Being a DJ is a unique talent ???? and many are thought of as performers who are on a concert tour in Thailand. 

 

Maybe that is the loophole.

 

Like being a chef in a hotel. 

 

 

Edited February 3, 2019 by NCC1701A

[recom273]

I hear from a friend in Ko Pang Ngan that all foreign DJs working on Island are required to have a work permit.

 

I don’t think it’s so hard to get a work permit to do a permitted job, is it? 

[balo]

3 hours ago, recom273 said:

I hear from a friend in Ko Pang Ngan that all foreign DJs working on Island are required to have a work permit.

And they all pay the fees and brown envelopes that goes to corrupted officials. Doesn't make it more legal , but a stamp is a stamp. 

 

[elgenon]

On 2/3/2019 at 12:26 PM, HLover said:

Were they females or annoying males?

You too? An annoying male got right in my face and wouldn't stop yakking. Deserves to be BJed.

[mrwebb8825]

On 2/4/2019 at 2:22 PM, elgenon said:

Deserves to be BJed.

???? Blow Job'd??

[Greyhat]

Last Saturday I was at Central Rama 9 and there was like a bakery market thing setup on one of the floors. Each one selling cakes, pastries etc. One of the stalls had a lone farang working there flogging cakes or something which was quite amazing to see. I wish I'd spoken to him in retrospect, or at least bought a cake.

[observer90210]

Do see a few western "hostesses" in the dance clubs of BKK like Insanity or Levels....but mainly,  what about all the farang boucers in these dance clubs sporting their secret service type earpieces ?...naturally they do have the appropriate work permits now don't they ? ????

[elgenon]

21 hours ago, mrwebb8825 said:

???? Blow Job'd??

I think you're not following the thread closely. 5555 Big Joke'd.

[SteveK]

Thais only listen to Morlum and LukTung, so if you know anything about modern music you have a special skill haha.

 

15 years ago all the DJs in KhaoSan seemed to be farangs, I spoke to a few and they were all being paid cash in hand.

 

But bouncers and "hostesses" - no way have they got work permits.

Edited February 15, 2019 by pr9spk

[hereforgood]

On 2/4/2019 at 7:45 AM, recom273 said:

I don’t think it’s so hard to get a work permit to do a permitted job, is it?

Not at all I have had 2 with different entertainment venues and it was very very easy 10 days tops from applying to issuing