2 flags on top of each other

[glegolo]

I have to ask you guys if you happens to know a thing about flags here in Thailand. Is it allowed if you have a flagpole in your garden in Thailand to have i.e. the thai flag on top and the swedish one there under or vice verse???

 

Happy to receive you input guys...

 

thanks

glegolo

[CharlieH]

Just get 2 poles, problem solved. ????

[glegolo]

Just now, CharlieH said:

Just get 2 poles, problem solved. ????

Thnks for your input, but still not an answer to the actual question. We have 1 pole not 2....

 

glegolo

[CharlieH]

You may find this of intetest.

 

Section 7g of the Flag Code states: "When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace."

 

 

(courtesy of Google, make of it what you will)

[glegolo]

This flag code, is that an international code of how it SHOULD be, or is it also stated the same by law in Thailand, do you know?

 

glegolo

Edited March 9, 2019 by glegolo

[CharlieH]

If you are that concerned I would recommend consulting with a Thai legal professional and perhaps your "Moo bahn" to ensure correct etiquette and legal standing.

[Paul Catton]

Under the 1979 Flag Act, which I believe is still active, passed during the Cold War and Red Scare, flying the flags of other countries in public places is illegal but for a few exceptions such as embassies and diplomatic residences. Violators go to prison for a month.

 

Section 46.

Using, hoisting or presenting foreign flags in the Kingdom may only be done in cases of national flags; royal navy flags or navy flags; flags for the King, the Queen, the Prince Consort, the Heir; flags representing the position of the Head of State or Head of Government; flags representing head of diplomatic mission; foreign governmental flags; flags of international organization to which the Thai Government is a party; and other foreign flags which have been granted permission by the Prime Minister.

 

The foreign flags under paragraph one may be used, hoisted or presented at the following places:

(1) the residence or vehicle of the King, the Queen, the Prince Consort, the Heir, the Head of State or his or her representative, or the Head of Government in the occasion of a state visit to Thailand;

(2) offices of the diplomatic mission, consular or international organization, and including the agencies of the international organization; 

(3) the place of abode, residence or vehicle for the head of diplomatic mission, head of the consular or head of office of the international organization, and including the head of the agencies of the international organization;

(4) foreign vessels or aircrafts, or those belonging to an international organization;

(5) foreign state’s vessels or aircrafts; or

(6) other places as the Prime Minister may announce for the allowance of the usage, hoisting or presentation of the flag, or as permitted by the Prime Minister.

 

The usage, hoisting or presentation of the flags under (1) to (4) shall be in accordance with international custom, international law or agreements with the Thai Government. The usage, hoisting or presentation of the flags under (5) and (6) shall be in accordance with the Rules of the Office of the Prime Minister.

 

Section 47.

The provision of section 46 shall not be used for the usage, hoisting or presentation of foreign flag inside a room of a building.

 

Section 49.

Any person who flies, hoists or presents other foreign flags apart from those prescribed to be used flew or presented under section 46 paragraph one shall beliable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or to a fine not exceeding two thousands baht or to both.

 

Section 50.

Any person who uses, hoists or presents a foreign flag without complying with section 46 paragraph two, paragraph three or paragraph four shall be liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one month or to a fine not exceeding one thousand baht or to both.

[Crossy]

Yup, the general rule is 1 pole, 1 flag.

 

If you really must fly your national flag you will need another pole.

 

Whilst I doubt too many Thais would get out of joint (or even know what the Swedish flag was) provided the Thai flag was at the top.

 

You may find fellow Swedes less accomodating, flying the flag of a sovereign nation below that of another sovereign nation is internationally accepted as a sign of defeat in war. Unless you know something we don't Thailand is not currently at war with Sweden (with the current crowd in charge anything is possible).

 

 

 

 

[Crossy]

14 minutes ago, Paul Catton said:

Section 49.

Any person who flies, hoists or presents other foreign flags apart from those prescribed to be used flew or presented under section 46 paragraph one shall beliable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding one year, or to a fine not exceeding two thousands baht or to both.

 

I think this nails it, no Swedish flag. 

 

The Thai flag Act 1979 English translation 

http://www.krisdika.go.th/wps/wcm/connect/d9e7ff804ba1c19498d99a8b4221fda7/FLAG+ACT%2C+B.E.+2522+(1979).pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=d9e7ff804ba1c19498d99a8b4221fda7

 

I will say that I've seen flags of various nations flown outside foreign owned factories (including a US flag flown inverted**) and nobody appears to be in jail.

 

EDIT ** They actually took it down every night and hoisted it next morning, always inverted. One of the Thai guys in our factory had a word with the "flag man", his response "we've always done it that way". Despite my being a Brit I did email the corporate HQ in the US with a photo. The flag had been sorted next time I was in the area ????

 

[AlexRich]

The only thing you're really doing is signalling to the local criminals that you have a house worth burglaring ... forget the "farang" flag.

[glegolo]

Guys you are fantastic in finding facts, thank you so much for your help.

 

Best to you all

glegolo

[neeray]

"2 flags on top of each other" The article title kind of had me going, caught my interest. I guess I have read too many of those "oh so popular" sex topics on TVF. Glad you got your answer though.

[Odysseus123]

29 minutes ago, glegolo said:

Guys you are fantastic in finding facts, thank you so much for your help.

 

Best to you all

glegolo

If you fly quite a few flags atop each other you might get..

 

"Sweden expects that every man will do his duty."

[NanLaew]

47 minutes ago, Crossy said:

... Despite my being a Brit I did email the corporate HQ in the US with a photo. The flag had been sorted next time I was in the area

Proof if ever it was needed that curtain twitchers do walk among us.

[Paul Catton]

All might not be lost.

 

Section 47.

The provision of section 46 shall not be used for the usage, hoisting or presentation of foreign flag inside a room of a building.

 

Take a picture of the Swedish Flag???????? unfurled on a pole in your lounge with yourself beaming beside it.

Super-Maxi enlarge it, then stick it on a billboard fixed atop of your fence/wall ????  

[Crossy]

15 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Proof if ever it was needed that curtain twitchers do walk among us.

 

Absolutely, we are a vital part of the global society.

 

Knowing how rabidly patriotic our friends from across the pond are about their flag I wanted to avoid an international incident should a citizen of that country see the sacrilege.

[glegolo]

1 hour ago, Paul Catton said:

All might not be lost.

 

Section 47.

The provision of section 46 shall not be used for the usage, hoisting or presentation of foreign flag inside a room of a building.

 

Take a picture of the Swedish Flag???????? unfurled on a pole in your lounge with yourself beaming beside it.

Super-Maxi enlarge it, then stick it on a billboard fixed atop of your fence/wall ????  

Hahaha that is a good one,,,

 

glegolo

[lannarebirth]

2 hours ago, Crossy said:

 

Absolutely, we are a vital part of the global society.

 

Knowing how rabidly patriotic our friends from across the pond are about their flag I wanted to avoid an international incident should a citizen of that country see the sacrilege.

Or maybe they were giving the international distress signal and people only cared that the flag was upside down. jk

[Daffy D]

4 hours ago, Crossy said:

I will say that I've seen flags of various nations flown outside foreign owned factories (including a US flag flown inverted**) and nobody appears to be in jail.

Just out of interest how many people know the right way up for the British "Union Jack" flag ?

 

Also I believe until recently it was against the law to fly a Union Jack at a private residence, something to do with upsetting minority groups  

[Crossy]

8 minutes ago, Daffy D said:

Just out of interest how many people know the right way up for the British "Union Jack" flag ?

 

IIRC a recent survey was something like only 60% of our British bretheren even knew it had a right way up.

 

When we lived in Belgium I was forever complaining at the village hall that the UK flag was upside-down when all the other EU flags were OK. After a while the doorman, on seeing me approaching was already halfway to the pole to fix it. 

[tifino]

Only time you'd see multiple flags on the one lanyard is on a ship; however what you see are really pennants. 

[Daffy D]

Slightly off topic, but I've started now.......... 

 

See a surprising number of instances of the flag being flown wrong way up even at official and ceremonial occasions, where they should know better.

 

For those interested in preserving some British patriotism in a foreign land the correct way:-

 

[Kwasaki]

12 minutes ago, Crossy said:

 

IIRC a recent survey was something like only 60% of our British bretheren even knew it had a right way up.

 

When we lived in Belgium I was forever complaining at the village hall that the UK flag was upside-down when all the other EU flags were OK. After a while the doorman, on seeing me approaching was already halfway to the pole to fix it. 

Well maybe the doorman won't have worry soon. ????

 

In several Thai european restaurants in the villages they have strings of flags from most all world countries, there has to be a Thai one as well of course but it has to be bigger than all the rest as to what the owner said. 

[Kwasaki]

5 minutes ago, Daffy D said:

Slightly off topic, but I've started now.......... 

 

See a surprising number of instances of the flag being flown wrong way up even at official and ceremonial occasions, where they should know better.

 

For those interested in preserving some British patriotism in a foreign land the correct way:-

 

I fly the English flag not that one. ????

[HLover]

Just now, Kwasaki said:

I fly the English flag not that one. ????

A few years ago, I used to fly it but it my new neighbors found it offensive and I was ordered to take it down.

 

[Crossy]

Just now, HLover said:

A few years ago, I used to fly it but it my new neighbors found it offensive and I was ordered to take it down.

 

Well you were in Glasgow.

 

[The Cobra]

Used to have a sticker on my car with the flag from home country, Thai drivers occasionally tried running into me, pulling in front me ☹️   ahhh farang, money !

Took the sticker off never had a problem since.

[Daffy D]

I've got a small flag sticker on the tailgate, never had a problem. I doubt most Thais know what it is anyway. 

 

[Kwasaki]

40 minutes ago, HLover said:

A few years ago, I used to fly it but it my new neighbors found it offensive and I was ordered to take it down.

 

My neighbours don't mine they think I use to work for the red cross. ????

[Kadilo]

6 hours ago, glegolo said:

Guys you are fantastic in finding facts, thank you so much for your help.

 

Best to you all

glegolo

Rearrange your name and you get google..l. 

There’s  a coincidence.