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Some in Mueller's team see report as more damaging to Trump than Barr summary: New York Times

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stevenl Star Member

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39 minutes ago, elmrfudd said:

you can do better than this, can't you?

 

can you show that this "meeting" was initiated by anyone in the Trump org?

 

Contacts, contacts. Nothing about 'initiated by whom'.

Your statement was wrong, you were lying, and now try to weasel out of it.

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5 hours ago, elmrfudd said:

sorry, you have to actually have something tangible instead of assumptions and innuendos.

when you do, let me know please.

Rosenstein :the public should have “tremendous confidence” in Barr. 

“He’s being as forthcoming as he can, and so this notion that he’s trying to mislead people, I think, is just completely bizarre,” Rosenstein told The Wall Street Journal.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/438564-rosenstein-bizarre-to-say-barr-misleading-public-on-mueller-report

 

Good to hear that Mr. Barr is well respected and doing the right thing! Credibility just confirmed by Rosenstein

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1 hour ago, riclag said:

Rosenstein :the public should have “tremendous confidence” in Barr. 

“He’s being as forthcoming as he can, and so this notion that he’s trying to mislead people, I think, is just completely bizarre,” Rosenstein told The Wall Street Journal.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/438564-rosenstein-bizarre-to-say-barr-misleading-public-on-mueller-report

 

Good to hear that Mr. Barr is well respected and doing the right thing! Credibility just confirmed by Rosenstein

It just the first step in the interview process for  an appointment to the Supreme Court, hoping that RBG either retires or kicks the bucket while Trump ids still president!

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1 minute ago, wayned said:

It just the first step in the interview process for  an appointment to the Supreme Court, hoping that RBG either retires or kicks the bucket while Trump ids still president!

I don't know what that has to do with topic! Last I looked Barr didn't even make the list

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/27/us/politics/trump-list-supreme-court-nominees.html

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On 4/12/2019 at 12:14 PM, riclag said:

Rosenstein :the public should have “tremendous confidence” in Barr. 

“He’s being as forthcoming as he can, and so this notion that he’s trying to mislead people, I think, is just completely bizarre,” Rosenstein told The Wall Street Journal.

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/438564-rosenstein-bizarre-to-say-barr-misleading-public-on-mueller-report

 

Good to hear that Mr. Barr is well respected and doing the right thing! Credibility just confirmed by Rosenstein

And that interview preceded the release of the report. Once people were able to review it and come to their own conclusions, they overwhelmingly didn't agree with Barr's obvious spin.

 

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1 minute ago, Kasane said:

When the headline starts with "some" I assume its a fake partisan report.

Given the evidence of how Barr misrepresented the report, you don't have much of a case.

Journalists Were Right

The Mueller report reads as a 400-page confirmation of years’ worth of reporting on Donald Trump.

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/04/mueller-report-journalism-was-right.html

 

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On 4/12/2019 at 6:05 AM, Tug said:

Elmer you are nonsense but good for a chuckle are you trying out for a job with trump lol

so disagreeing with you is nonsense. got it.

 

the mantra of the liberal that suffers in the delusion that your ideology makes you right

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1 hour ago, bristolboy said:

But the facts they cite about what journalist wrote that Mueller's report supported are somehow partisan?

It's a 400 page report. There will be journalists/writers/talk show hosts and other people who make a living with words writing and talking about the contents of this report. For years. All in partisan ways, whether they be libs/repubs/cnn/fox. All of them have an axe to grind.  But the fact remains that the Mueller report obliterated the Trump-Russia conspiracy theories. Trump is a man with no moral compass, with shades of white supremacy,  but the report clearly lays out that he is not beholden to Russia/Putin. 

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3 hours ago, Kasane said:

Slate also is a partisan rag. 

I don't see any mention of this in the  slate article: Anything to make Mr. Trump look orange man bad!So obvious ,it's sad

NYT Finally Acknowledges That Steele Dossier Might Not Be That Factual

https://www.dailywire.com/news/46240/nyt-finally-acknowledges-steele-dossier-might-not-ashe-schow

 

or

 

BuzzFeed updates story after Mueller report reveals Trump didn’t order Cohen to lie

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buzzfeed-updates-story-after-mueller-report-reveals-trump-didnt-order-cohen-to-lie

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35 minutes ago, riclag said:

I don't see any mention of this in the  slate article: Anything to make Mr. Trump look orange man bad!So obvious ,it's sad

NYT Finally Acknowledges That Steele Dossier Might Not Be That Factual

https://www.dailywire.com/news/46240/nyt-finally-acknowledges-steele-dossier-might-not-ashe-schow

 

or

 

BuzzFeed updates story after Mueller report reveals Trump didn’t order Cohen to lie

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buzzfeed-updates-story-after-mueller-report-reveals-trump-didnt-order-cohen-to-lie

Let’s take the fist claim regarding NYT.

 

Why are there no links to the NYT to back up the claims being made by the Daily Wire?

 

 

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1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Let’s take the fist claim regarding NYT.

 

Why are there no links to the NYT to back up the claims being made by the Daily Wire?

 

 

“[T]he release on Thursday of the report by the special counsel, Robert S. Mueller III, underscored what had grown clearer for months — that while many Trump aides had welcomed contacts with the Russians, some of the most sensational claims in the dossier appeared to be false, and others were impossible to prove. Mr. Mueller’s report contained over a dozen passing references to the document’s claims but no overall assessment of why so much did not check out,” the Times reported.

 

original story

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/19/us/politics/steele-dossier-mueller-report.html

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9 hours ago, Kasane said:

It's a 400 page report. There will be journalists/writers/talk show hosts and other people who make a living with words writing and talking about the contents of this report. For years. All in partisan ways, whether they be libs/repubs/cnn/fox. All of them have an axe to grind.  But the fact remains that the Mueller report obliterated the Trump-Russia conspiracy theories. Trump is a man with no moral compass, with shades of white supremacy,  but the report clearly lays out that he is not beholden to Russia/Putin. 

"But the fact remains that the Mueller report obliterated the Trump-Russia conspiracy theories."

 

No, it does not.  Mueller reported that he did not find sufficient evidence to prosecute for criminal conspiracy, but that was a very close call.  Trump Jr only got out of charges because Mueller wasn't certain that Jr knew what he was doing was illegal.  Ignorance serves the Trumps well.

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A meeting set-up by fusion GPS?  You are way off the rails here.

 

" Donald Trump Jr. and other Trump campaign officials involved in the June 2016 meeting with a Kremlin-linked lawyer were not charged with campaign finance violations in part because it would be difficult to prove the participants knew their conduct was unlawful, special counsel Robert Mueller's redacted report, released Thursday, said. "   https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/mueller-report-no-evidence-trump-knew-about-trump-tower-meeting-n995816

 

Regarding your imagined investigative malfeasance, go ahead and investigate the investigators.  I assume it will be a waste of time, but if something illegal is found, go ahead and press charges.

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His "crimes" amount to telling someone that Mueller should be fired. Mueller was never fired, so where the F%^^%& is the crime. To date, thoughts have not been outlawed in the USA (not so sure about the UK). People can say what they want but the bottom line is Mueller was never fired and his investigation was not stopped or interfered with by the President. Since the underlaying crime of "collusion with the Russians" was determined to have never have occurred, how could Trump have actually obstructed the investigation into something that never happened?

 

The world has become mad.

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On ‎4‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 1:23 PM, riclag said:

I don't see any mention of this in the  slate article: Anything to make Mr. Trump look orange man bad!So obvious ,it's sad

NYT Finally Acknowledges That Steele Dossier Might Not Be That Factual

https://www.dailywire.com/news/46240/nyt-finally-acknowledges-steele-dossier-might-not-ashe-schow

 

or

 

BuzzFeed updates story after Mueller report reveals Trump didn’t order Cohen to lie

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/buzzfeed-updates-story-after-mueller-report-reveals-trump-didnt-order-cohen-to-lie

Might not be factual? Made up and total BS is more like it. To date nothing has been verified or validated, but it was used as a basis to get "spy" on the Trump campaign. Maybe this was done legitimately, but maybe not. I cannot name another campaign in US history that this has happened to and it should never again happen based on unproven gossip paid for by the opposing political party. It is a big deal and hopefully the investigation into the FISA court alleged abuses will get to the bottom of the issue.

 

It smells rotten, likely because it is rotten.

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4 hours ago, Ahab said:

Might not be factual? Made up and total BS is more like it. To date nothing has been verified or validated, but it was used as a basis to get "spy" on the Trump campaign. Maybe this was done legitimately, but maybe not. I cannot name another campaign in US history that this has happened to and it should never again happen based on unproven gossip paid for by the opposing political party. It is a big deal and hopefully the investigation into the FISA court alleged abuses will get to the bottom of the issue.

 

It smells rotten, likely because it is rotten.

I guess it comes down to the POTUS having to prove his objections through tweets,tasking subordinates and interviews to the mueller matter to what went on during 2016 and 2017(what POTUS calls a coup attempt) was justified, despite mueller and wessermans  interpretations of 18 usc 1512 which stymied them for over 1 year until Mr. Barr and Rosenstein could come to a agreement of no obstruction  .

 

https://int.nyt.com/data/documenthelper/549-june-2018-barr-memo-to-doj-mue/b4c05e39318dd2d136b3/optimized/full.pdf

 

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512

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