Brexiteer Lords try to thwart law forcing May to request EU exit delay

[evadgib]

22 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I'm not going to repost the May Corbyn kissing cartoon,  it is ugly and crude. It goes way beyond a cartoonists legitimate right to be provocative and descends into brainless viciousness. This isn't actually funny, it just leaves a foul taste in your mouth. I expect no more from the Torygraph, but to be balanced in my criticism, Steve Bell of the Guardian often does exactly the same. These guys do not deserve the oxygen of publicity. I expect a cartoonist to be provocative - yes - but subtle and amusing also.

 

One of the finest ironies I have noted in a long time is the cartoonist's use of Pseudo Russian text in the words Brexit. From a Torygraph point of view it is all part of depicting Corbyn as an old fashioned Socialist. The irony is that it is the Brexiteers who have done everything they possibly can to help achieve Putin's dream of weakening Europe (Where did Banks £8m come from I wonder). For all their Nationalist grandstanding Brexiteers are still essentially acting as Putin's Poodles.

You were shortlisted for a  until I saw your last line.

[tomacht8]

15 hours ago, dunroaming said:

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Jacob Rees-Mogg‏Verified account @Jacob_Rees_Mogg 4h4 hours ago

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If a long extension leaves us stuck in the EU we should be as difficult as possible. We could veto any increase in the budget, obstruct the putative EU army and block Mr Macron’s integrationist schemes.

Interesting.
Apparently, the UK has the ability to prevent budget issues, the brainwave of an EU army, and further integration policies through its VETO law.
If I think of the countless Brexiteers postings that have represented the UK as a command recipient of the EU.
And now it turns out that the UK with its VETO power can strongly influence or even block EU decisions.

Ashes now on the propaganda heads.

 

Edited April 6, 2019 by tomacht8

[stevenl]

10 hours ago, nontabury said:

 

 Unfortunately the Brexiteers were never in a position to take control,thanks to remainer May.

Nonsense, they had many chances to get rid of may.

[Nigel Garvie]

52 minutes ago, evadgib said:

You were shortlisted for a  until I saw your last line.

Fair enough. Although it is quite clear what his aims are, of course Brexiteers are not intentionally helping Putin. I may have been a bit provocative!

[Nigel Garvie]

I think the EU offer of a longer flexible delay is wise, and TM's reluctance to accept it could well be based on her concerns about EU elections, and party interests. The EU are saying as soon as we can sort it out the delay period ends. What could be simpler.

 

I expect that the vast majority of people in the UK, and the EU, and businesses in particular, are totally sick of cliff edge politics. Politicians just please do your damn job, go away and come up with a solution, no more cliff edges, or no deal threats. Many people are simply losing the will to live, and would now accept any sort of reasonable compromise. 

Many Brexiteers have reluctantly accepted that they are not going to get their dream version of Brexit, and Remainers have accepted that in some way or another we are actually likely to leave the EU.

[rickudon]

Yes, it is the total inability of the political establishment to find a compromise which shows their incompetence. Having said that, most remainers are willing to compromise. Brexiteers not ..... that is what is pushing us over the cliff. Brexiteers want the stalemate so that we end up with no deal. Perhaps we should hang 5 MP's a day (drawn by lot) until a deal is agreed. I reckon it would only take one or two days ????.

 

Whatever happens, the tories are going the same way as Thailand's Democrats, oblivion. We just do not know what will replace them, not a Future Forward unfortunately.

[malagateddy]

Perhaps a strong BREXIT PARTY[emoji6]

Yes, it is the total inability of the political establishment to find a compromise which shows their incompetence. Having said that, most remainers are willing to compromise. Brexiteers not ..... that is what is pushing us over the cliff. Brexiteers want the stalemate so that we end up with no deal. Perhaps we should hang 5 MP's a day (drawn by lot) until a deal is agreed. I reckon it would only take one or two days [emoji1787].
 
Whatever happens, the tories are going the same way as Thailand's Democrats, oblivion. We just do not know what will replace them, not a Future Forward unfortunately.

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[Basil B]

On 4/5/2019 at 3:38 AM, Thingamabob said:

People should understand that there is no escape from the EU. Just ask the Danes, the French and the Irish, to name but a few. 

People should understand that there is no escape from the EU with in us. Just ask the Vikings, the Saxons, the Normans and the Romans, to name but a few. 

Edited April 6, 2019 by Basil B

[Basil B]

29 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Perhaps a strong BREXIT PARTY

 

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They couldn't even organise one inside a brewery.

[malagateddy]

They couldn't even organise one inside a brewery.

No worries..I'd easily do it there[emoji23]

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[vogie]

37 minutes ago, rickudon said:

Yes, it is the total inability of the political establishment to find a compromise which shows their incompetence. Having said that, most remainers are willing to compromise. Brexiteers not ..... that is what is pushing us over the cliff. Brexiteers want the stalemate so that we end up with no deal. Perhaps we should hang 5 MP's a day (drawn by lot) until a deal is agreed. I reckon it would only take one or two days ????.

 

Whatever happens, the tories are going the same way as Thailand's Democrats, oblivion. We just do not know what will replace them, not a Future Forward unfortunately.

"Having said that, most remainers are willing to compromise."

 

So let me get this straight, should the remainers had won the EU referendum, you would have compromised and said, 'you know what, we'll give the leavers some Brexit compromise, of course you wouldn't, it would have been winner takes all. ????????????

[vogie]

Where there's a will, there's a way. JRM is not willing to curl up and die, EU take heed.

 

[nontabury]

3 hours ago, stevenl said:

Nonsense, they had many chances to get rid of may.

That has been the problem from word go. She was elected as the P.m. not by the people, but by her fellow remain supporting colleagues. And furthmore she has kept her position by those same Remain supporting colleagues. In total approximately 200 people. There is one certainty,she would never put herself up for endorsement by the thousands of Conservative party members, let alone by the general public.

[aright]

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, nontabury said:

That has been the problem from word go. She was elected as the P.m. not by the people, but by her fellow remain supporting colleagues. And furthmore she has kept her position by those same Remain supporting colleagues. In total approximately 200 people. There is one certainty,she would never put herself up for endorsement by the thousands of Conservative party members, let alone by the general public.

Excuses from brexiteers. There was no plan and no negotiation position. Hence no brexiteer wanted to step in, because they did have plenty of opportunities.

[Loiner]

Any photos yet from the Hard Brexiteer March 29 Leave Party?

Sorry, not allowed inside. It got very messy towards the end, but everybody had a jolly good time.
You Remainers wouldn’t have liked it, far too raucous for such delicate souls.

[Loiner]

Agreed - The EU have already come back and politely pointed out that JRM is just a nobody with no mandate to represent the UK,

What will they do when he’s PM?

[malagateddy]

Changing their underware very regularly[emoji23]

What will they do when he’s PM?

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[Loiner]

As it happens, at the first meeting David Davis (Brexiteer) turned up totally unprepared, setting the expectation for all following meetings.

So you were there? Which side were you negotiating for?

[damascase]

5 minutes ago, Loiner said:

So you were there? Which side were you negotiating for?

Empty-handed and without a clue, that is how Davis arrived at the first meeting. The EU however had used the nine months after the referendum to prepare for the negotiations.

[Loiner]

I'm not going to repost the May Corbyn kissing cartoon,  it is ugly and crude. It goes way beyond a cartoonists legitimate right to be provocative and descends into brainless viciousness. This isn't actually funny, it just leaves a foul taste in your mouth.

I bet you are the life and soul of the party at the convention for Victorian Gentlefolk.

[vogie]

1 minute ago, Loiner said:

I bet you are the life and soul of the party at the convention for Victorian Gentlefolk.

I cannot remember too many remainers complaining about union jack man, posted about 40 times, but whatever suits their agenda, some would call it 'double standards'

[Loiner]

Empty-handed and without a clue, that is how Davis arrived at the first meeting. The EU however had used the nine months after the referendum to prepare for the negotiations.

Bloody hell, another one that was there. No wonder TVF is running wick with Remainers - they must all be EU negotiators in their spare time.

[malagateddy]

The minute cameron anounced the referendum he should have set up a large team to prepare properly negociating tactics/plan of action " just in case " leave won.
We all know the rest.
I blaim cameron..osborne and every member if the cabinet at that time 100%.
Incompetent..arrogant..cockshure shower of sh##e every last one of them.
To top it off..cameron then spits the dummy out and slinks off in the huff.
Remember what he said to friends.." why should I do the hard sh#t.
An utter tosser.

Empty-handed and without a clue, that is how Davis arrived at the first meeting. The EU however had used the nine months after the referendum to prepare for the negotiations.

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[soalbundy]

On 4/5/2019 at 6:39 AM, SheungWan said:

Hello! Royal Prerogative is back from the Hard Brexiteer Team! We missed you!

and the royal organization isn't elected, don't forget that when you get all precious about lack of democracy in the EU. What is happening in all this chaos is democracy at work, it is chaotic because the majority for brexit was so small.

[aright]

22 minutes ago, soalbundy said:

and the royal organization isn't elected, don't forget that when you get all precious about lack of democracy in the EU. What is happening in all this chaos is democracy at work, it is chaotic because the majority for brexit was so small.

 

Democracy at work? 

We Remainers thought British interests might be democratically represented in parliament by MP's standing by their endorsement of their Article 50 vote and manifesto pledges. We were wrong to trust them; many turned out to be self serving pro EU MP's.

 

 

 

 

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, aright said:

 

Democracy at work? 

We Remainers thought British interests might be democratically represented in parliament by MP's standing by their endorsement of their Article 50 vote and manifesto pledges. We were wrong to trust them; many turned out to be self serving pro EU MP's.

 

 

 

 

Did you by any chance mean "We Leavers" not "We Remainers", otherwise your post doesn't really make sense.

[aright]

10 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Did you by any chance mean "We Leavers" not "We Remainers", otherwise your post doesn't really make sense.

Well spotted . Yes I did thanks!!!!

A gin and tonic made me do it! ???? 

Edited April 7, 2019 by aright

[Basil B]

On 4/6/2019 at 2:20 PM, malagateddy said:

The minute cameron anounced the referendum he should have set up a large team to prepare properly negociating tactics/plan of action " just in case " leave won.
We all know the rest.
I blaim cameron..osborne and every member if the cabinet at that time 100%.
Incompetent..arrogant..cockshure shower of sh##e every last one of them.
To top it off..cameron then spits the dummy out and slinks off in the huff.
Remember what he said to friends.." why should I do the hard sh#t.
An utter tosser.

 

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They were waiting for the EU to bend over refund every penny we paid and beg us to reconsider. ????

[malagateddy]

Biggest mistake the eu make is that they think that might has right..just wonder what they will do re intelligence re would be terrorists WITHOUT THE 5 EYES!!!

They were waiting for the EU to bend over refund every penny we paid and beg us to reconsider. [emoji1787]

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