17 hours ago, JustAnotherHun said:

Who the hell needs this beautiful beach? Firm it up and make a big parking spot for tour busses out of it.

I disagree. We don't want tour buses in the centre of Pattaya. Get them, and their Chinese passengers the hell out of town.

18 hours ago, webfact said:

He repeated the blame game saying mother nature was the culprit: "We can't do anything about that", he said.

 

You don't just put sand on a beach and expect it to stay there! You're 'working' with mother nature, you follow HER RULES! Gits.

 

Unbreathable air, vanishing beaches... you're falling apart, Thailand.

 

17 hours ago, Banana7 said:

There are decades worth of rainfall data for most of Thailand including Pattaya. All they had to do is calculate the rainfall for the coverage area then design and build drainage to handle the water flow. Most competent professional civil engineers can easily do this job.

 

It seems someone other than professional engineers are deciding on the drainage design. The people authorizing the work aren't following the advice and recommendations of professionals who are qualified to design and build.

 

 

 

They are probably just hiring cowboys to do the work for next to nothing and pocketing the difference themselves. Typical Thai ethics.

"Jatuporn said the situation was very concerning and the pictures on social media looked simply awful. 

He spoke of the potential for damage to tourism". 

He repeated the blame game saying mother nature was the culprit: "We can't do anything about that", he said. 

 

Yes there is, if they notice all of the erosion is where the sidewalk has been lowered for access by motor vehicles, either maintain the height of the walkway all the way down beach road except where the pumping station is located or

Install suitably designed Culverts at each regular point of erosion e.g. where the sidewalk has been lowered for access by motor vehicles.

Cant beat mother nature... Sure but you could allow for the run off water from the land to be channeled into one two or three places. 

19 hours ago, khwaibah said:

You can not fix stupid.

and corruption in Thailand.

19 hours ago, webfact said:

He repeated the blame game saying mother nature was the culprit: "We can't do anything about that", he said. 

 

Man, you just can't make this stuff up can you?  Just when you think they might start noticing their own elbow, they confuse it with their ass again.  

 

The Singaporeans know how to do it, but they are far more smarter of course.

Edited April 6, 20197 yr by fruitman

waste of time, just let it wash away maybe the raw sewerage will go with it, they dont have

the knowledge to fix anything properly, in the picture they really look like a bunch of dopes, lost

in thought, pathetic.

I did note that this guy was meeting with the DEPUTY MAYOR ?? he should definitely have the Mayor present. AND TAT.  Disgusting state of affairs,  "mother nature indeed   Ha ha ha ha"

 

19 hours ago, Justgrazing said:

He wants to be careful dissing Ma' Nature for this or she may come back with a storm worthy of the name and wash the whole thing away .. 

Or the "Mother" will sue for defamation!

I wonder if Khun JatupornBurutphat ever uses an umbrella when it rains? or closes his windows during a downpour? - or does nothing and blames getting wet from “mother nature”????

2 minutes ago, toenail said:

I wonder if Khun JatupornBurutphat ever uses an umbrella when it rains? or closes his windows during a downpour? - or does nothing and blames getting wet from “mother nature”????

Amazing official, money family---brain dead

Message from England northern expression..." Ya can't put nowt where there int nowt"

We've been foiling mother nature for more than 12000 years. A proper drainage system for the water is required and a study of the tides and currents in the bay to determine where groynes are needed to stop the erosion and build up natural sand deposits. Stop the flow of raw sewage into the sea and clear out the con men (and women) around the beach. Stop handing out contracts to companies that cannot do the work properly and have probably bought the contract or had nepotism at work as has happened in the past. That would be a start.

I'm afraid that the big bags as he mentioned before have already been removed. 

Big bags of dosh.

 

The works were not yet handed over to the council, so the contractor would have responsibility for the repairs. 

 

Another classic example of any Thailand construction job I've seen. 

The top is only as good as the foundations. 

20 hours ago, toenail said:

Get some farangs on the committee that can think “pro-active” on what to do. You do not invest on beach renovation until you take care of the water run-off from the sois during the  heavy rains.  A real engineer would know this.

Better not put farangs on the committee. Some general will arrest them for conning the Thai people. Although, I think the parking lot idea was a good one. It would help the traffic congestion problem.

20 hours ago, webfact said:

The first main thing to do, he said, was to sort out drainage problems in the city and on beach road so that flood water flows where it is meant to go - and not all over the beach. 

Nature creates rivers to lead flood water to where it is meant to go... TO THE SEA.

 

...at least you can see the water from the beach..unlike visibility restrictions here in CNX.

19 hours ago, Chivas said:

The Mayor said...

" The first main thing to do, he said, was to sort out drainage problems in the city and on beach road so that flood water flows where it is meant to go - and not all over the beach."

 

Right well end this stupid face issue and employ some top consultants who actually know what they're doing in the first place from Europe, the States or Australia and do it now

What about getting some real engineers from Holland

21 hours ago, webfact said:

The first main thing to do, he said, was to sort out drainage problems in the city and on beach road so that flood water flows where it is meant to go - and not all over the beach. 

Should have done that before spending 400 million baht on the beach and watch it get washed away !!

But then this is Thailand and the cart always comes before the horse !!

Sense would dictate a question: why did the first beach wash away, ahhh yes run-off from rain water coming from the beach road..

lets sort that out then re-build the beach NOOOOO !

Lets spend millions on the sand and do bugger-all about the flooding!

And the guy is still employed.... more lives than a cat this one!!!

Edited April 6, 20197 yr by hotchilli

21 hours ago, webfact said:

saying "mother nature was the culprit" 

No. The culprit was the brainless planner.

Do they really think that people come to Pattaya for their 'beautiful' beach? ????

If all the pussy got washed out to the sea, that would be a real problem for the city.

I'm from a beach city in the US, used to have progressively worse beach erosion problems until the city planners got their act together in more recent decades.

 

Now it's like clockwork.  After summer beach season is over (also tourist high season), heavy equipment comes in and pushes remaining sand into huge piles further up the beach away from water's edge, which saves it from being washed away during the coming winter/storm/rain season.  Obviously that reduces the cost of replacement sand later on.

 

Late Spring, just before summer and tourist high season kicks off again, bulldozers are out redistributing the saved sand, and big trucks bring in more to top up as/if required. 

 

All seems very routine and organized, and nobody is mystified by the forces of nature.

The potential for damage to tourism is not just a Pattaya beach but there are many other things that they have to look into it too. They must find the way how to attract the tourists to come here.

Damage to tourism-let me count the ways

7 minutes ago, raccos21 said:

They must find the way how to attract the tourists to come here.

They could hold seminars?

1. Lessons in incompetence.

2. How to get rich & not give a dam what others think.

3. Safe driving - the art of braking.

4. Selfishness.

5. Noise - the creation off in any circumstance.

6. Denial A-Z off.

FIRST TIME I heard them say they need to fix the drainage.

That should have been done before the first grain of sand was moved for the 400 M BHAT beach project and that is not the first time the beach has been worked on.

They only mention drainage on Beach Road.

The drains need to be cleaned from the Beach, all thru Sukhumvit, all the way thru the dark side and all the way back to Route 36.

Anything less than that is only cutting the tail off the snake.

 

I was in this type of business my whole 47 yr working career.

not a problem now 800mil is needed to fix it. look out for a bunch of new official owned mercs and so on..

this is how thais do stuff.

Is that guy behind them with the big green square thing trying to sell them lottery tickets?????