Do you believe in God and why

[mauGR1]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's entirely possible that my lesson in this existence is to learn to love despite being kicked in the butt so many times, but if that is so, I guess I failed. Perhaps the next time around will be different.

I would say it's exactly like that.

Suffering is very common on this planet, and we have to develop the ability of using it as a sort of spring to jump to a better reality. 

Sometimes things take time, but, speaking strictly for myself, there is only 1 way, and it is up.

 

[mauGR1]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Hmmmmm. Loads of people go through life just existing. I know one guy, not even that old that just sits outside smoking, and sometimes having a chat with his friends.

However, if that makes him content, who am I to say he should be doing something with his life to make it meaningful?

Every one look for happiness in their own way.

Who i am to judge ?

How can i judge other people's lives if i don't remove the beam which is in my eye ?

[Tippaporn]

14 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

I'm undecided about that, as if I create my own reality I must despise, hate and loath myself to create such a horrible reality.

 

It's typical that people blame themselves for creating unwanted experience.  Just as you say it's typical for people to use cynicism as a psychological defense mechanism.  One day you'll figure out that you're the creator of it all . . . and quite needlessly.

There have been enough words offered here to allow you to get a grip on what's really going on.  But it's as if you resist all of it.  As if you're almost proud of playing the victim.  As if you want to remain where you are, as painful as it is to you.  You have your own challenges in life, TBL, as we all do.  If this is one of yours, and I don't claim to know, then to overcome it you have to, at some point, come to the realisation of what's really going on.  I can glimpse it.  Sunmaster can, too.  But so far you're more unwilling than unable to.

I've come from a similar place where you are now.  I know.  At one time in my life I've felt exactly as you do.  I couldn't bear the pain anymore and made the effort to get myself out of that hell hole.  There isn't a single force in the universe or all of existence that keeps you where you're at except yourself.

Pick up a Seth book and start reading instead of crying rivers of despair.  That's one option.  There's unending options.  But if you say, "I can't" no one here believes you.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Tippaporn said:

It's typical that people blame themselves for creating unwanted experience.  Just as you say it's typical for people to use cynicism as a psychological defense mechanism.  One day you'll figure out that you're the creator of it all . . . and quite needlessly.

There have been enough words offered here to allow you to get a grip on what's really going on.  But it's as if you resist all of it.  As if you're almost proud of playing the victim.  As if you want to remain where you are, as painful as it is to you.  You have your own challenges in life, TBL, as we all do.  If this is one of yours, and I don't claim to know, then to overcome it you have to, at some point, come to the realisation of what's really going on.  I can glimpse it.  Sunmaster can, too.  But so far you're more unwilling than unable to.

I've come from a similar place where you are now.  I know.  At one time in my life I've felt exactly as you do.  I couldn't bear the pain anymore and made the effort to get myself out of that hell hole.  There isn't a single force in the universe or all of existence that keeps you where you're at except yourself.

Pick up a Seth book and start reading instead of crying rivers of despair.  That's one option.  There's unending options.  But if you say, "I can't" no one here believes you.

You post as though I don't know anything about the subject of personal realities etc. I learned all that over 40 years ago, and am not convinced that it's true, and the "cure" that you discuss doesn't work on me.

It's like the placebo effect- for it to work one has to believe it does, and I don't.

 

Soooo, I'll stick to enjoying what I can ( the sunsets have been spectacular recently ), surviving the bad stuff, and hoping I'm not around too much longer. I'm well past sell by date and I'm happy to set out on the last great adventure.

No one that truly believes can fear death, as it's just a curtain between this existence and the other side. I only hope that it doesn't hurt too much when I do pass over the great divide.

[Tippaporn]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You post as though I don't know anything about the subject of personal realities etc. I learned all that over 40 years ago, and am not convinced that it's true, and the "cure" that you discuss doesn't work on me.

It's like the placebo effect- for it to work one has to believe it does, and I don't.

 

Soooo, I'll stick to enjoying what I can ( the sunsets have been spectacular recently ), surviving the bad stuff, and hoping I'm not around too much longer. I'm well past sell by date and I'm happy to set out on the last great adventure.

No one that truly believes can fear death, as it's just a curtain between this existence and the other side. I only hope that it doesn't hurt too much when I do pass over the great divide.

"It's like the placebo effect- for it to work one has to believe it does, and I don't."

 

You make an extremely valid point, TBL.  You can have anything you want in life.  But you have to believe.  That's the trick.  That's the rub.  That's the inherent caveat.  If you're poor and want money you can mouth the words, "I am rich!" all day long.  You can write the words a hundred times over on a black board, like a schoolchild being disciplined by his teacher.  None of it will do you any good unless you believe.  And no amount of action will overcome your disbelief, either.  It will all fail.

So how do you overcome that small obstacle which you see symbolically as a mountain taller than Mt. Everest?  To believe . . . to truly believe . . . is not as difficult as you think it is.

There are, in truth, only two things one can think about.  What is wanted or what is not wanted.  There is nothing else.  In either case you will make your arguments.  If your focus is on what is wanted then the reasons for why that is possible will begin to literally flood your mind.  The reverse holds true when your focus is on the unwanted.  You will gravitate to and attract every thought out there as to why it is not possible for you to have what you want.

It's a simple enough exercise to sit quietly, perhaps with pen and paper to help maintain your focus, and begin with a single thought of why you can have what you want.  It may be as easy as pointing to someone who has it already and saying to yourself, "Well, somebody else has it so it's certainly not impossible."  Don't get me wrong.  It takes effort.  But not at all effort that is beyond anyone's capabilities.  But what you will find with this simple exercise is that if you stick with it then suddenly another thought which is in alignment with your desire enters your brain.  And then another.  Much sooner than you can imagine you will be overwhelmed with thoughts, with memories of past achievements, that all align with your desire.  At a certain point you will undeniably feel the reality of your desire.  It can be quite intense, I can assure you.

Rinse and repeat as often as necessary.  We do live in an existence in which time is a factor.  Instantaneous manifestations happen in the dream world, but not here.  The goal is to actually feel the reality of it.  For it is emotion that acts as the fuel, the rocket engine which propels thought into physical reality.

Now if this process seems to be an impossibility for you just remember this.  You are in this moment using the exact same process to create what you are creating right now; misery.  Read and reread that again.  You won't be doing anything different than what you're currently doing.  You're just going to do the reverse.

Stand aside of yourself for a moment and objectively observe your present thoughts of despair as if they were someone else's.  As you think of one injustice a like thought soon arrives.  Using the process of associative thought you bring another thought into your head, perhaps totally unrelated to the first but of a similar nature.  And another follows.  And another, and another, and another until you're ready to scream in agony.  Not so much because you're having these thoughts but because you literally feel their reality.  You feel the pain of that reality.
 

It's easy to then be convinced that this is the only reality that exists.  That it's rockbed reality.  This is the real world.  The only world.  The true world.  Hogwash.  Rubbish.

Now if employing that identical process to focus on what is wanted then that reality becomes just as real as the reality of the world you're experiencing now.  Realise that all of this is mental.  It's all within your subjective reality.  Physical reality is simply a three dimensional interactive medium which mirrors your subjective reality and forms it into the things you can sense; feel, touch, hear, smell, I forget the last one.  Because this is how reality is set up, these are the laws which it must abide by, then when your subjective reality changes then the physical mirror must, must follow suit.  Change happens.  Your life becomes different.  Not symbolically but in real terms.

And please don't give me this sh!t that you're too old.     That's a juvenile excuse that I would never accept if some kid were to try to pass it by me.  Age has nothing to do with it.  Or show me where that's written on some stone tablet. 

Good luck to you, TBL.  Even though there is no such thing. 

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Tippaporn

[Hummin]

4 hours ago, Tippaporn said:

Obviously everyone's level of understanding is different.  People will gravitate to those sources of information which provide them information they are ready to hear and in a format that is acceptable to them.  Just as I offer information which most are not ready to hear.  Just as I provide a Sethian format which is uncomfortable for most.

"But you know all this, but still confused when you referring to solid truths and easy to prove."

You create your own reality is a hard truth.  So how does one prove it?  Searching for evidence in one's past one's life one will find that it is chock full of personal experiences which bear this truth out, for one.  For another one can make conscious choices now of what they want their future to include and watch it 'miraculously' pan out.

Now I can relate dozens of my own personal experiences which provided me with proof that I create my own reality.  Another could heap their own doubt upon it in an attempt to invalidate it.  But as I've been saying all long, since I started in on this thread, do not think that every proof can be measured, quantified, held in your hand, seen with your two eyes, or perceived with any of your other senses, or even with a man-made physical device which can detect things a human cannot.

I've had far too many experiences with consciously creating my own reality to deny the reality of what I'm experiencing.  Science has done such a wonderful job of subverting, cheapening, depreciating and otherwise poo-poohing the validity of subjective reality that over many generations people have come to distrust and outright dismiss their own subjective reality.  They may have a quite valid subjective experience and pass it off as a mere figment of their imagination.  Or otherwise talk themselves into denying their own experience.  As in the well known exchange between old Jacob Marley and Ebeneezer Scrooge:

 

"You don't believe in me," observed the Ghost.

"I don't," said Scrooge.

"What evidence would you have of my reality beyond that of your senses?"

"I don't know," said Scrooge.

"Why do you doubt your senses?"

"Because," said Scrooge, "a little thing affects them.  A slight disorder of the stomach makes them cheats.  You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of an underdone potato.  There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!"

 

Scrooge expresses perfectly here the view of science in regards to subjective reality.

Hummin, would you deny your own experience if browbeaten by science, or any other Doubting Thomas, into submissive conformity?  I don't think you would.

I feel we running in circles here now since I have stated numerous of times belief and what we see as our own reality and “truths” is a very individual experience based on everything I mentioned in one of my last replys to you. 
 

Last thing I would say, is that our brain is a miracle and a wonderful and great tool for for all of us for many reasons, and it can also be a complicated organ we have to control and deal with for good and bad. 
 

Good luck on your continuing journey here on planet earth, or elsewhere where you feel connected. 

[Tippaporn]

2 minutes ago, Hummin said:

I feel we running in circles here now since I have stated numerous of times belief and what we see as our own reality and “truths” is a very individual experience based on everything I mentioned in one of my last replys to you. 
 

Last thing I would say, is that our brain is a miracle and a wonderful and great tool for for all of us for many reasons, and it can also be a complicated organ we have to control and deal with for good and bad. 
 

Good luck on your continuing journey here on planet earth, or elsewhere where you feel connected. 

Thanks Hummin.  Same to you, mate.

[Hummin]

8 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

"It's like the placebo effect- for it to work one has to believe it does, and I don't."

 

You make an extremely valid point, TBL.  You can have anything you want in life.  But you have to believe.  That's the trick.  That's the rub.  That's the inherent caveat.  If you're poor and want money you can mouth the words, "I am rich!" all day long.  You can write the words a hundred times over on a black board, like a schoolchild being disciplined by his teacher.  None of it will do you any good unless you believe.  And no amount of action will overcome your disbelief, either.  It will all fail.

So how do you overcome that small obstacle which you see symbolically as a mountain taller than Mt. Everest?  To believe . . . to truly believe . . . is not as difficult as you think it is.

There are, in truth, only two things one can think about.  What is wanted or what is not wanted.  There is nothing else.  In either case you will make your arguments.  If your focus is on what is wanted then the reasons for why that is possible will begin to literally flood your mind.  The reverse holds true when your focus is on the unwanted.  You will gravitate to and attract every thought out there as to why it is not possible for you to have what you want.

It's a simple enough exercise to sit quietly, perhaps with pen and paper to help maintain your focus, and begin with a single thought of why you can have what you want.  It may be as easy as pointing to someone who has it already and saying to yourself, "Well, somebody else has it so it's certainly not impossible."  Don't get me wrong.  It takes effort.  But not at all effort that is beyond anyone's capabilities.  But what you will find with this simple exercise is that if you stick with it then suddenly another thought which is in alignment with your desire enters your brain.  And then another.  Much sooner than you can imagine you will be overwhelmed with thoughts, with memories of past achievements, that all align with your desire.  At a certain point you will undeniably feel the reality of your desire.  It can be quite intense, I can assure you.

Rinse and repeat as often as necessary.  We do live in an existence in which time is a factor.  Instantaneous manifestations happen in the dream world, but not here.  The goal is to actually feel the reality of it.  For it is emotion that acts as the fuel, the rocket engine which propels thought into physical reality.

Now if this process seems to be an impossibility for you just remember this.  You are in this moment using the exact same process to create what you are creating right now; misery.  Read and reread that again.  You won't be doing anything different than what you're currently doing.  You're just going to do the reverse.

Stand aside of yourself for a moment and objectively observe your present thoughts of despair as if they were someone else's.  As you think of one injustice a like thought soon arrives.  Using the process of associative thought you bring another thought into your head, perhaps totally unrelated to the first but of a similar nature.  And another follows.  And another, and another, and another until you're ready to scream in agony.  Not so much because you're having these thoughts but because you literally feel their reality.  You feel the pain of that reality.
 

It's easy to then be convinced that this is the only reality that exists.  That it's rockbed reality.  This is the real world.  The only world.  The true world.  Hogwash.  Rubbish.

Now if employing that identical process to focus on what is wanted then that reality becomes just as real as the reality of the world you're experiencing now.  Realise that all of this is mental.  It's all within your subjective reality.  Physical reality is simply a three dimensional interactive medium which mirrors your subjective reality and forms it into the things you can sense; feel, touch, hear, smell, I forget the last one.  Because this is how reality is set up, these are the laws which it must abide by, then when your subjective reality changes then the physical mirror must, must follow suit.  Change happens.  Your life becomes different.  Not symbolically but in real terms.

And please don't give me this sh!t that you're too old.     That's a juvenile excuse that I would never accept if some kid were to try to pass it by me.  Age has nothing to do with it.  Or show me where that's written on some stone tablet. 

Good luck to you, TBL.  Even though there is no such thing. 

 

Placebo is a great tool for manipulating your brain to perform better and as well for healing. 
 

 But for the rest of your post we have science to prove how you can use simple cognitive self therapy to perform better, take control of raging thoughts, anxiety, severe mental health issues, physical pain, perform better at public performance’s, and also for motivation to succeed in life. 
 

Speaking to friends and relatives can also do wonders as well speaking to professionals. 
 

There are coincidences that happens in life to that can feel like miracles as well. 
 

What I really do not like is this mass suggestion’s done by snake oil sellers targeting people who struggle in life with promises if you do like this and this you will see and see the “light”

 

What works for you, might not work for another. 
 

A little bit guidance from a professional and cognetive self therapy changed my brain to create new neural pathways. 

 

It is called Neuroplasticity. So many technics that have been practiced for millenniums do now have scientific proofs. 
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity

[thaibeachlovers]

21 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

And please don't give me this sh!t that you're too old.     That's a juvenile excuse that I would never accept if some kid were to try to pass it by me.  Age has nothing to do with it.  Or show me where that's written on some stone tablet. 

Did I say because I'm old? If I did apologies. However you have to accept the existence of mental deterioration, which was what I was talking about when I said I couldn't absorb too much information in one post.

I'm not going to go into specifics, but you can accept that, or not. Up to you.

[Tippaporn]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Did I say because I'm old? If I did apologies. However you have to accept the existence of mental deterioration, which was what I was talking about when I said I couldn't absorb too much information in one post.

I'm not going to go into specifics, but you can accept that, or not. Up to you.

I can.  In any case, my sincere best to you, TBL. 

[Hummin]

8 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Surely you can't be claiming that science has the tools to know anything about faith?

We have been running in circles, and yes and no to your question ????‍♂️ 

 

Science can prove and measure how teaching religion/belief/spirituality/yoga/meditation and practice the mentioned how it influence your brain, how it changes your brain, and how it can heal mental problems, as well the brain can perform better after practice and establish good routines. However, it is like a muscle, you need to exercise. 
 

Also like tippaporn says, we can create our own realities, no doubt about that either and need no scientific proof. 

[Tippaporn]

7 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Placebo is a great tool for manipulating your brain to perform better and as well for healing. 
 

 But for the rest of your post we have science to prove how you can use simple cognitive self therapy to perform better, take control of raging thoughts, anxiety, severe mental health issues, physical pain, perform better at public performance’s, and also for motivation to succeed in life. 
 

Speaking to friends and relatives can also do wonders as well speaking to professionals. 
 

There are coincidences that happens in life to that can feel like miracles as well. 
 

What I really do not like is this mass suggestion’s done by snake oil sellers targeting people who struggle in life with promises if you do like this and this you will see and see the “light”

 

What works for you, might not work for another. 
 

A little bit guidance from a professional and cognetive self therapy changed my brain to create new neural pathways. 

 

It is called Neuroplasticity. So many technics that have been practiced for millenniums do now have scientific proofs. 
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity

I don't doubt what you say, Hummin.  Science has worked marvels to alleviate pain and suffering and to bring health to so many.  I am sincerely grateful.

"But for the rest of your post we have science to prove how you can use simple cognitive self therapy to perform better, take control of raging thoughts, anxiety, severe mental health issues, physical pain, perform better at public performance’s, and also for motivation to succeed in life."

I know little to nothing of cognitive self therapy.  So I visited this site for an introduction.  I won't poo-pooh it because it is helpful to some, as you yourself have attested.  If I had to make a point by point comparison, though, the knowledge Seth and others like him provide goes much further than what cognitive self therapy can provide.

"There are coincidences that happens in life to that can feel like miracles as well."

If you truly understood what I understand then you would know that there is no such thing as coincidence.  Coincidence, fluke, luck, chance, accident and similar are nothing more than events for which we have no rationale explanation for.  Events for which we cannot follow the thread to their source.  There is a reason for everything.  Nothing "just" happens.

"What I really do not like is this mass suggestion’s done by snake oil sellers targeting people who struggle in life with promises if you do like this and this you will see and see the “light.”"

Given the content of my post to which you're replying do you consider me a snake oil salesman?    Hey, I understand there are a lot of dubious people out there in the world who don't at all have your best intentions at heart.  The are also numbers of genuine folks who do.  Do you lump them all together?  Perhaps the genuine people are well intentioned albeit, unfortunately, sorely misguided?  I'm not trying to suggest what your beliefs are but I'm curious about your statement. and whether you're open to expounding on it a bit.

 

"What works for you, might not work for another."

 

Partially true.  One certainly has to account for the circumstances.

 

"A little bit guidance from a professional and cognitive self therapy changed my brain to create new neural pathways."

I'm sincerely happy that it's helped you.  You've shown that there's always more than one path to get you to where you want to go.

[Hummin]

31 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

I don't doubt what you say, Hummin.  Science has worked marvels to alleviate pain and suffering and to bring health to so many.  I am sincerely grateful.

"But for the rest of your post we have science to prove how you can use simple cognitive self therapy to perform better, take control of raging thoughts, anxiety, severe mental health issues, physical pain, perform better at public performance’s, and also for motivation to succeed in life."

I know little to nothing of cognitive self therapy.  So I visited this site for an introduction.  I won't poo-pooh it because it is helpful to some, as you yourself have attested.  If I had to make a point by point comparison, though, the knowledge Seth and others like him provide goes much further than what cognitive self therapy can provide.

"There are coincidences that happens in life to that can feel like miracles as well."

If you truly understood what I understand then you would know that there is no such thing as coincidence.  Coincidence, fluke, luck, chance, accident and similar are nothing more than events for which we have no rationale explanation for.  Events for which we cannot follow the thread to their source.  There is a reason for everything.  Nothing "just" happens.

"What I really do not like is this mass suggestion’s done by snake oil sellers targeting people who struggle in life with promises if you do like this and this you will see and see the “light.”"

Given the content of my post to which you're replying do you consider me a snake oil salesman?    Hey, I understand there are a lot of dubious people out there in the world who don't at all have your best intentions at heart.  The are also numbers of genuine folks who do.  Do you lump them all together?  Perhaps the genuine people are well intentioned albeit, unfortunately, sorely misguided?  I'm not trying to suggest what your beliefs are but I'm curious about your statement. and whether you're open to expounding on it a bit.

 

"What works for you, might not work for another."

 

Partially true.  One certainly has to account for the circumstances.

 

"A little bit guidance from a professional and cognitive self therapy changed my brain to create new neural pathways."

I'm sincerely happy that it's helped you.  You've shown that there's always more than one path to get you to where you want to go.

Short answer

 

Snake oil sellers is those who make a living as gurus, spokesmen of god who often have karisma and god given gifts to attract people in need for help, and exploits them. 
 

That is not pointed at you, because you as me have been searching, reading, learning for maybe the  same reasons, and even we use different names, the methods seems to be the same, and give maybe same results. 
 

I guess we all had our experiences when it comes to miracles, and Even I say by coincidence it can be energies that works for us, and I would like to believe it, but it is not necessary for me to use those terms as a fact or truth. I keep my mind open and keep on going with my comfortable view on life and it’s mysterious journey as long it lasts. 
 

I truly believe by thoughts we can change our lives and future for the better or the worse. Depending on what you are willing to cultivate of positive constructive  thoughts (energies) or negative not so constructive thoughts. It takes a bit self realising to start in the first place. 
 

Another question would be nice to ask, why have some of us spent so much time to think and create our beliefs and for others who say this is the truth? I believe it is because at some point in life we needed something to believe, to give a meaning trough difficult times.

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Hummin

[Photoguy21]

Yes I do believe in me

[3NUMBAS]

ask  cliff richards  he knows

[sipi]

 

[Hummin]

@Tippaporn

 

Another thing that worries me with miracles, if we appreciate them and if we believe in them, what about all the negative experiences and challenges trown at us, trough out the whole life, are they also given? Given because we deserves it? Maybe thats why I do not like to believe in miracles, because if they exists they certainly have an opposite pole as everything else does have that seems like an absolute truth? 
 

Everything have an opposite pole!

 

 

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Hummin

[Tippaporn]

8 minutes ago, Hummin said:

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Another question would be nice to ask, why have some of us spent so much time to think and create our beliefs and for others who say this is the truth? I believe it is because at some point in life we needed something to believe, to give a meaning trough difficult times.

I can only speak for myself.  And it's rather complex.  I remember as a 6 or 7 year old kid looking at my arm with child-like amazement and the realisation that this arm attached to this body was 'me.'  So for me I found life absolutely fascinating and wondrous as far back as I can remember.  Now that I've come to a fairly good understanding of at least the basics of who I am and what reality is, and cultivated a conviction that I create my own reality, I can look back upon my early years with an understanding of why I choose my particular early environment, my particular parents, the types of experience I had, and such.

I had both a wonderful and hellish childhood.  I guess it might even be fair to say that the hellish part of my early life turned me into 'damaged goods.'  That was the catalyst for me to search for answers.  So I might say that I lit a fire under my rear end in order to turn me to the path of discovery.

I was very much interested in UFOs in my early teens.  I bought just about every available book on them and checked regularly to see if any new ones popped up.  Which should give an indication that in my search for answers I was open to almost anything.  Mind you, though, as long as it made sense.  Even then I was astute enough to recognise rubbish.

Perhaps my interest in UFOs was born out of a comic book I had read when I was maybe about 7 or 8 years old.  An alien spacecraft arrived on Earth.  I can't recall anything about the story but I can still vividly see the last few frames.  The aliens were standing in front of the craft with the ramp down.  The good old army was assembled  in front of them . . . jeeps and tanks and an army of soldiers.  The aliens were of a highly advanced race and came to help the earthlings.  The earthlings were fearful of the aliens true intentions so they ultimately settled on the decision to blow the aliens to kingdom come.  The aliens didn't fight back.  They had their force field to protect them.  The simply turned and went back into their craft and took off, never to be seen again.  And the kid I was angrily spat, "Fools!!!"    So ever since then I put stock in the idea of higher intelligences existing somewhere out there.

When I was about 13 and already experiencing difficulties I asked myself a question.  If I could have anything in the world, anything at all, what would it be.  My answer came quickly.  Wisdom.  Not knowledge.  Wisdom.  Kinda odd for a 13 year old kid, I admit.

So my road to find answers was partly due to my fascination of myself and the world I found myself in and to know as much as I could about it and partly due to find answers to get myself out of my 'damaged goods' state.

I've often wondered where I'd be today if I hadn't found what I consider to be the best and most comprehensive explanation of who we are and of reality.  I remember going to a psychic with my wife once; for the fun of it.  She told me that I would be good at writing horror novels because of the immense amount of anger she sensed in me.  That raised my eyebrows.  To this day I give her credit for her ability to divine that about me.    Who knows.  Maybe in some probable reality I'm an equal to Stephen King. 

[Tippaporn]

39 minutes ago, 3NUMBAS said:

ask  cliff richards  he knows

I would but we don't talk anymore.
 

 

[Tippaporn]

36 minutes ago, sipi said:

 

I hope this isn't a response to my postings.    It's gotta be one of you other guys. 

[sipi]

12 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

I hope this isn't a response to my postings.    It's gotta be one of you other guys. 

No. Just a general post. I found this today on YouTube and I'm still crying laughing.

[digger70]

I don't believe in god ,How can one believe in something that one can't see. 

My dear late mother always said if one can't see it one can't believe in it . 

Don't believe in ghosts,

( Can't see them or touch them) .

Spirits is a good one ,the one in a Bottle I believe in (can touch and drink that) 

Religion takes the cake It doesn't matter what religion ,that's all about Power and Money. 

Fairies and Santa Claus ,Easter,X mass ,All of them are about getting people to spend Money. People are So stupid to get themselves ripped off.

 

[Tippaporn]

37 minutes ago, Hummin said:

@Tippaporn

 

Another thing that worries me with miracles, if we appreciate them and if we believe in them, what about all the negative experiences and challenges trown at us, trough out the whole life, are they also given? Given because we deserves it? Maybe thats why I do not like to believe in miracles, because if they exists they certainly have an opposite pole as everything else does have that seems like an absolute truth? 
 

Everything have an opposite pole!

I'm an engineer by trade.  I have to design things that work (hopefully).  A great deal of creativity is involved, as is knowledge of those physical laws which apply to my designs.  When I look out at existence and consider it's practical nature I'm left breathless.  I think miraculous is a very fitting term.

 

When I consciously create my reality I'm floored when I see how the results unfold.  It's my favourite part of life.  To witness the actual events which unfold to fulfill a desire.  And oftentimes the result is better than what I had imagined.  It's magical.

And in times of trouble, when I'm in the midst of the darkness of a storm, I'm amazed at the silver linings of those dark clouds.  If you look for the silver lining you'll see it.  And that's when you realise that a negative experience has brought you to a better place.  And consider it a blessing and be thankful for it.

[Tippaporn]

3 minutes ago, sipi said:

No. Just a general post. I found this today on YouTube and I'm still crying laughing.

I figured as much.  But if it were posted by a troll it would have been a great way to send a message. 

[Tippaporn]

3 minutes ago, digger70 said:

I don't believe in god ,How can one believe in something that one can't see. 

My dear late mother always said if one can't see it one can't believe in it . 

Don't believe in ghosts,

( Can't see them or touch them) .

Spirits is a good one ,the one in a Bottle I believe in (can touch and drink that) 

Religion takes the cake It doesn't matter what religion ,that's all about Power and Money. 

Fairies and Santa Claus ,Easter,X mass ,All of them are about getting people to spend Money. People are So stupid to get themselves ripped off.

Genies.  You forgot genies.  I believe in Barbara Eden.  Wowza!  

[Orinoco]

57 minutes ago, sipi said:

 

Just a thought.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zk8V19iG-Q

[Hummin]

16 minutes ago, Tippaporn said:

I'm an engineer by trade.  I have to design things that work (hopefully).  A great deal of creativity is involved, as is knowledge of those physical laws which apply to my designs.  When I look out at existence and consider it's practical nature I'm left breathless.  I think miraculous is a very fitting term.

 

When I consciously create my reality I'm floored when I see how the results unfold.  It's my favourite part of life.  To witness the actual events which unfold to fulfill a desire.  And oftentimes the result is better than what I had imagined.  It's magical.

And in times of trouble, when I'm in the midst of the darkness of a storm, I'm amazed at the silver linings of those dark clouds.  If you look for the silver lining you'll see it.  And that's when you realise that a negative experience has brought you to a better place.  And consider it a blessing and be thankful for it.

I was going to write two other absolute truths in my reply, but kept it short. 
 

Out of bad happenings good things come, and of course the nature of it the opposite. 
 

Anyway, when I finely got grip on my own reality, I stopped experience bad things, and my life kind of mellowed out in a bliss. I do not say bad things or challenges does not happen, Im just better to handle them, because I finely have a solid foundation I feel safe on. I have come to peace with my life. 
 

To follow up on miracles is chosen, given or earned, I wanted to mention it, because religion have abused those terms to manipulate and mislead people and leave them in the belief, they deserve illnesses and struggle in life because of lack of their faith. 

We put to much guilt on our shoulders, and I like the idea of having a Jesus to carry all of our-sins for us, I know that can be comforting for some, but for me, the understanding of Yin Yang in some terms, explains a-lot of the true nature of humans. 
 

It is just one side effect of all this chasing the real truth, and is the given error to complicate everything we have to deal with, and complicated stuff takes time redress and reshape. As an engineer you know all of that, but of course we need the right tools and right materials to reshape, redress and reconstruct as well known ledge as well experience 

 

[mauGR1]

12 hours ago, Hummin said:

It is just one side effect of all this chasing the real truth, and is the given error to complicate everything we have to deal with, and complicated stuff takes time redress and reshape. 

Perhaps we have to experience and study separation (duality) to understand unity ?

Not sure why, but if you are not a believer already, you seem to be very near to become one.

[mauGR1]

20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It's like the placebo effect- for it to work one has to believe it does, and I don't.

Yes, there's a saying "will is power" that sums it pretty well.

Now, someone says that thoughts are electrical impulses produced by the brain, but if will power can shape the thought, where does the will power come from?

[Nickelbeer]

I wasn’t around when the earth was created, so I don’t have a firm answer for you. Neither does anyone else. I just try to live the most moral life that I can and let religion alone. Needless to say, God does not seem to be very busy if he does exist.