Jonathan Fairfield Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 348 die in Songkran road carnage By The Nation A total of 348 people were killed and 3,176 others wounded in 3,068 road accidents during the first six days of the “seven dangerous days” of Songkran, said the Road Safety Operations Centre (RSOC) on Wednesday. Chiang Mai had the most accidents at 119 and Nakhon Si Thammarat had the most casualties at 126. Nakhon Ratchasima and Udon Thani shared the top spot for deaths with 15 each, Probation Department chief Prasarn Mahaleetrakul announced. Only five provinces, Trang, Phang Nga, Mae Hong Son, Sukhothai and Angthong, reported no Songkran road deaths. On Tuesday alone, there were 367 crashes claiming 42 lives and injuring 381 others. Speeding was blamed for 30 per cent of accidents and drink driving for 28 per cent. On Tuesday, 65,375 officials and volunteers manning 2,040 checkpoints nationwide said they checked 1,048,847 vehicles, resulting in 239,295 motorists and motorcyclists being charged with traffic violations. Most cases involved riding motorbikes without wearing a helmet with 64,829 incidents and failing to present a driver's licences, 57,087 cases. Prasarn said the Thai courts had placed 8,642 alleged offenders in the probation system from April 11-16. She said 98 per cent or 8,481 of the cases involved drink driving followed by 150 cases of driving on drugs and 11 cases of reckless driving. The most drink drivers were arrested in Maha Sarakham (596), Bangkok (480) and Nakhon Phanom (440), he added. In a separate press conference, National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) spokeswoman Col Sirichan Ngathong said that army, police and administrators had confiscated 6,435 vehicles (4,752 motorbikes and 1,683 cars and trucks) and 2,291 driving licences from drink drivers during April 11-16. Throughout this period, officers found 177,134 motorcyclists and 146,017 motorists violated traffic laws and prosecuted 131,674 motorcyclists and 91,499 motorists, she added. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30367833 -- © Copyright The Nation 2019-04-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverell Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Ok, thats on the roads but I wonder how many deaths and injuries due to violence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyril sneer Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Maverell said: Ok, thats on the roads but I wonder how many deaths and injuries due to violence? I think the article is about roads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viggo McQuaid Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Strange that these figures are published. Thailand is such a squared away country, best in the world. I would imagine most accidents are caused by Thais thinking about farangs than loosing control. I.e Farang no good is to blame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy cow cm Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: In a separate press conference, National Council for Peace and Order (NCPO) spokeswoman Col Sirichan Ngathong said that army, police and administrators had confiscated 6,435 vehicles (4,752 motorbikes and 1,683 cars and trucks) and 2,291 driving licences from drink drivers during April 11-16. The NCPO army should not have anything to do with this and that is where Thai people need to draw the line and separate Military and domestic services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 30% speeding, 28% drunk....what were the causes of the other 42% anyone please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebo Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, wgdanson said: what were the causes of the other 42% anyone please? Break failure and evil spirits ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisperone Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 This is like reading a sports recap. Very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainman34014 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 1 hour ago, wgdanson said: 30% speeding, 28% drunk....what were the causes of the other 42% anyone please? Numpty driving ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 hours ago, wgdanson said: 30% speeding, 28% drunk....what were the causes of the other 42% anyone please? 1 hour ago, rebo said: Break failure and evil spirits ... =Drugs, mental illness, low IQ or all three of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: =Drugs, mental illness, low IQ or all three of them. drink, sleeping, lack of ability to drive/think/judge anything/look ahead, turn/drive in a straight line/see anything past 20 feet in front of the car/look in the mirrors; the possible list is almost endless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Pilotman said: drink, sleeping, lack of ability to drive/think/judge anything/look ahead, turn/drive in a straight line/see anything past 20 feet in front of the car/look in the mirrors; the possible list is almost endless. Ultimately, it all boils down to one thing: stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilotman Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 40 minutes ago, RotBenz8888 said: Ultimately, it all boils down to one thing: stupidity. Quoting National stereotypes is always a difficult, sensitive and contentious area, but I actually think that it is a National trait that Thais just don't have any well developed sense of spacial awareness. Couple that with a general lack of interest in doing anything to a particularly high standard, a lack of personal responsibility for their actions and poor education in almost every aspect of daily living and you have the basis for what we see on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewsterbudgen Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 Ok, thats on the roads but I wonder how many deaths and injuries due to violence?Why? Do you know something we don't?Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samsensam Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 the average seven day death toll on thai roads is 462, so 348 deaths on the seven songkran days makes the holiday a comparatively safe time to travel. not that the figures aren't horrific. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RotBenz8888 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, Pilotman said: Quoting National stereotypes is always a difficult, sensitive and contentious area, but I actually think that it is a National trait that Thais just don't have any well developed sense of spacial awareness. Couple that with a general lack of interest in doing anything to a particularly high standard, a lack of personal responsibility for their actions and poor education in almost every aspect of daily living and you have the basis for what we see on the roads. And with all the factors you've mentioned, it's hard to see how there's gonna be any change. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 How many people die over any given 7 day period on average throughout the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poohy Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 And what does this prove Simply you cant fix stupid! Generalization, well sure theres some clever ones, but the vast (male) majority not a chance !!! an old Dudley saying if their brains were dynamite it wouldn't blow the wax out of their ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 8 hours ago, Pilotman said: Quoting National stereotypes is always a difficult, sensitive and contentious area, but I actually think that it is a National trait that Thais just don't have any well developed sense of spacial awareness. Couple that with a general lack of interest in doing anything to a particularly high standard, a lack of personal responsibility for their actions and poor education in almost every aspect of daily living and you have the basis for what we see on the roads. Yes, Yes. But what about the negative things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 12 hours ago, wgdanson said: 30% speeding, 28% drunk....what were the causes of the other 42% anyone please? Farang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipButty Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 3 hours ago, ukrules said: How many people die over any given 7 day period on average throughout the year? A lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graemeaylward Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 the average seven day death toll on thai roads is 462, so 348 deaths on the seven songkran days makes the holiday a comparatively safe time to travel. not that the figures aren't horrific.But this figure is only for the first 6 days, so there is a day left to achieve target!Sent from my iPad using Thailand Forum - Thaivisa mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya28 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 12 hours ago, wgdanson said: 30% speeding, 28% drunk....what were the causes of the other 42% anyone please? other 42% both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inThailand Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 Does anyone believe these numbers? 1M vehicles checked. I have never seen the tent campers get out of their chair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 11 hours ago, Pilotman said: drink, sleeping, lack of ability to drive/think/judge anything/look ahead, turn/drive in a straight line/see anything past 20 feet in front of the car/look in the mirrors; the possible list is almost endless. AKA simply, BRAIN FAILURE! ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tradewind777 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 14 hours ago, Viggo McQuaid said: Strange that these figures are published. Thailand is such a squared away country, best in the world. I would imagine most accidents are caused by Thais thinking about farangs than loosing control. I.e Farang no good is to blame! Yes, the farang must always be blamed because “if he had not come to Thailand there would have been no accident”. So logical, funny I never thought of that before! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 5 hours ago, ukrules said: How many people die over any given 7 day period on average throughout the year? 66 x 7 = 462 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlQaholic Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 I'm a little bit confused. The article says that 'On Tuesday alone, there were 367 crashes claiming 42 lives and injuring 381 others. Speeding was blamed for 30 per cent of accidents and drink driving for 28 per cent.'. Then the article says that 98% of arrests were drink driving arrests. This is statistical nonsense. The arrests should be consistent with the number of accidents. There were no arrests at all for speeding. The Changwats that reported no casualties at all are a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zack61 Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 14 hours ago, holy cow cm said: The NCPO army should not have anything to do with this and that is where Thai people need to draw the line and separate Military and domestic services. If the domestic services were at all interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blazes Posted April 18, 2019 Share Posted April 18, 2019 She said 98 per cent or 8,481 of the cases involved drink driving followed by 150 cases of driving on drugs and 11 cases of reckless driving. Only 11 cases of reckless driving????? in the whole of Thailand???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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