UK's May fires defence secretary over Huawei leak

[thaibeachlovers]

16 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Ten nuclear-powered submarines ain't bad. 

No functioning aircraft carriers is bad.

The subs are of no use at all for a land based war, but you know that.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

You wouldn't understand my logic, I don't respect UK money spent on mass destructive weapons let the loony US gov do that.

The UK govs backing of the US suspicion on Russia and China is total nonsense and the UK should be the lead for talking common sense but no Iran next.   

How can you possibly think China is no threat? Why do you think they are spending so much on their military when no country threatens them?

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How can you possibly think China is no threat? Why do you think they are spending so much on their military when no country threatens them?

TBL

 

Get your message straight will you. 

 

China is one of the nations the UK is hoping will provide the post Brexit trade deals the UK needs. 

 

Although the evidence of the UK bowing to China at every turn doesn't bode well for any deal the UK might try to get. 

 

Perhaps arguing from a position of strength as a member of the largest single integrated market in the world would be a good way to deal with the Chinese. 

[thaibeachlovers]

9 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

TBL

 

Get your message straight will you. 

 

China is one of the nations the UK is hoping will provide the post Brexit trade deals the UK needs. 

 

Although the evidence of the UK bowing to China at every turn doesn't bode well for any deal the UK might try to get. 

 

Perhaps arguing from a position of strength as a member of the largest single integrated market in the world would be a good way to deal with the Chinese. 

No idea what you are on about.

 

My only message is don't trust them.

 

Edited May 3, 2019 by thaibeachlovers

[Kwasaki]

12 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

How can you possibly think China is no threat?

Why do you think they are spending so much on their military when no country threatens them?

No idea what your on about.

What threat !!  China is no more a threat than Russia, US driven hysteria IMO. 

Why shouldn't China do what western countries have done, more the question why does the USA spend so much on there military forces and camp all over the world that is threatening IMO.

[Kwasaki]

33 minutes ago, oilinki said:

This is where we are now. What excuse can we use to get Russia back to the table of stabile countries? What could Russia give up to get an equal seat on the table with the rest of us? 

Good interesting post we can agree on some points.

Many western countries have done stupid things too not just Putin Russia.

As for Russia IMO my take is if only common sense could prevail with US & UK and just talk to Russia and sort things out stabilizing world peace involving China too would be a good thing I would like to see that done in my time.

Russian hatred, Chinese hatred, Iranian hatred and Nth Korean hatred has no place lets talk things out. 

[malagateddy]

Let's get this straight. 
 
China is a threat for it's economic power. China is building bridges to gain more power over the world. That's soft power, in a different context we have learned to see it.
 
China's interest is not to have a war, but peace. They do abuse the system western world created. They simply outsmarted us.
 
Russia on the other hand is a threat. It's a country with wast amount of nuclear missiles, which are costing a lot of money to upkeep. Russia is a country of less and less power over the world. Power which Putin tries to restore by any means available.
 
The west did huge mistakes by not taking Putin and the will of the Russian people seriously some 20 years back, when Russia was coming out of the Glasnost cloud. 
 
Had the west, namely USA, been a bit smarter, we would live in a way more peaceful world today. But that's just history.
 
Russia doesn't want to be threatened, nor to be placed as a secondary world power. Their economics has been down since they occupied Ukraine. That was a stupid move by Putin. In a way understandable move as they were so afraid of Ukraine becoming NATO and EU member. 
 
This is where we are now. What excuse can we use to get Russia back to the table of stabile countries? What could Russia give up to get an equal seat on the table with the rest of us? 
 
 

Well now..there's merkel's dirty secret with putin.
It's black..dirty and smelly

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[bomber]

9 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Well now..there's merkel's dirty secret with putin.
It's black..dirty and smelly

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i see your german paranoia is still effecting you ????

[Kwasaki]

13 hours ago, oilinki said:

There is fear of unstable Russia, which Putin currently presents. Real fear, which makes us all uncomfortable. 

Western wold is way better when Russia is onboard. As one of us. 

 

As long as China follows building bridges strategy, that's good for us all.

I personally think China will never become as aggressive power as the western powers have been. 

 

new eastern way of living and do business with?

 

I wound't mind China changing it's attitude to respect other people, than Chinese, in this world. That's what Europe and Western world did few decades ago. 

 

I wish to be a wise and fair man. I hope others, like you, wish to think the same way. 

I edited your post to make some points.

 

I'm English and don't fear Russia at all having been there and meeting Russians tourists in our village, there's always 2 sides and Putin I believe tries harder to make talks than others IMO ever since 9-11. 

 

Russia was on board with UK in WW2 where was USA.

 

Genghis Khan is long gone and I too believe China will not become an aggressive power as the western powers have been, US is scared of there great potential economic power which UK should be part of.  

 

As for the new eastern way of living & business all that needs is respect, compromise & understanding.

 

" I wound't mind China changing it's attitude to respect other people, than Chinese, in this world."  I don't understand what you mean by that.

 

Apart from me liking a wind-up now & again, I to like to be fair & forgiving but I have my limitations.

[malagateddy]

i see your german paranoia is still effecting you [emoji1]

Is this your way of telling all and sundry that you do not know about the energy and fuel deal between germany and russia????

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[bomber]

14 minutes ago, malagateddy said:

Is this your way of telling all and sundry that you do not know about the energy and fuel deal between germany and russia????

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wow nations making deals together to sell precious commodities what is the world coming to,wont effect anyone in the UK or you in issan,another pathetic example of your German paranoia

[malagateddy]

wow nations making deals together to sell precious commodities what is the world coming to,wont effect anyone in the UK or you in issan,another pathetic example of your German paranoia

Considering one of my best mates here is German..I think it is you that is a little lacking in the grey matter up the stairs..as I've stated a few times on Thaivisa that the crowd of expats in my neck of the woods are British..Swedish..German and Ozzies.
Hows the chicken piri piri today old boy???

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[bomber]

1 minute ago, malagateddy said:

Considering one of my best mates here is German..I think it is you that is a little lacking in the grey matter up the stairs..as I've stated a few times on Thaivisa that the crowd of expats in my neck of the woods are British..Swedish..German and Ozzies.
Hows the chicken piri piri today old boy???

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so your polite when in the company of a German but i doubt you speak your mind to him about your hatred for many of his nations idea's and policies and history,all smiles in the bar and back slapping,the wife is training you well proper Thai style

[malagateddy]

Boomba..please tell me when I've spoke about my hatred for Germany and German politics.
My German mate has no time for merkel..hopes the afD run amok in the mep elections..is anti-muslim immigrants due to the xmas market bombing..the rapes..assaults etc committed by muslim immigrants.
You have a nice day old boy[emoji6]

so your polite when in the company of a German but i doubt you speak your mind to him about your hatred for many of his nations idea's and policies and history,all smiles in the bar and back slapping,the wife is training you well proper Thai style

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[OneEyedPie]

I wouldn't buy Huawei or Kaspersky or any other dodgy products from our natural enemies.  China's plastic products seem okay though and their china.  

[bomber]

1 hour ago, malagateddy said:

Boomba..please tell me when I've spoke about my hatred for Germany and German politics.
My German mate has no time for merkel..hopes the afD run amok in the mep elections..is anti-muslim immigrants due to the xmas market bombing..the rapes..assaults etc committed by muslim immigrants.
You have a nice day old boy
 

 

 

 

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try asking him to get his swastika tatts covered over with bulldogs.

[malagateddy]

never forget teddy your old enough to be my dad,oh dear what a thought [emoji24]

I honestly thought that you were Dick Emery's boy[emoji2][emoji2][emoji2]

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[OneEyedPie]

Just now, malagateddy said:

I honestly thought that you were Dick Emery's boy

Gaylord?

[Scott]

Troll posts removed. 

 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎5‎/‎4‎/‎2019 at 1:39 AM, oilinki said:

Let's get this straight. 

 

China is a threat for it's economic power. China is building bridges to gain more power over the world. That's soft power, in a different context we have learned to see it.

 

China's interest is not to have a war, but peace. They do abuse the system western world created. They simply outsmarted us.

 

Russia on the other hand is a threat. It's a country with wast amount of nuclear missiles, which are costing a lot of money to upkeep. Russia is a country of less and less power over the world. Power which Putin tries to restore by any means available.

 

The west did huge mistakes by not taking Putin and the will of the Russian people seriously some 20 years back, when Russia was coming out of the Glasnost cloud. 

 

Had the west, namely USA, been a bit smarter, we would live in a way more peaceful world today. But that's just history.

 

Russia doesn't want to be threatened, nor to be placed as a secondary world power. Their economics has been down since they occupied Ukraine. That was a stupid move by Putin. In a way understandable move as they were so afraid of Ukraine becoming NATO and EU member. 

 

This is where we are now. What excuse can we use to get Russia back to the table of stabile countries? What could Russia give up to get an equal seat on the table with the rest of us? 

 

 

Even if the Chinese take over by peaceful means just ask the Tibetans how life is under their rule. I don't want to be ruled by the Chinese any which way.

[malagateddy]

Even if the Chinese take over by peaceful means just ask the Tibetans how life is under their rule. I don't want to be ruled by the Chinese any which way.

If you're British..you're being ruled by sociopaths who work in the westminster area of london right now.

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