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Biden's rise in 2020 race catches Trump's eye, unnerves his allies


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Yes, just like that damned universal health care they're suggesting. Don't they understand that if you're dying to get it you'll appreciate it FAR more!


So if you’re dying to get a university degree you’ll appreciate it FAR more?

You can tell how much people appreciate government handouts by going into any public housing project...
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7 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 


So what skills are needed to secure an unskilled job?

 

People skills. Professional attitude. Strong work ethic. Desire to work yourself up the ladder instead of doing the minimal amount of work to collect a paycheck. I have more of you want a more thorough list. ????

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Some democrats support that and some don't.
I wouldn't worry about that actually happening. 
Also is it really a "leftist" policy to demand working class people to subsidize free higher education which leads in general to much higher lifetime income.
There needs to be more of a balance and I think that is closer to the more mainstream democratic party consensus. 
Such things as paying back to society for doctors to serve in underserved regions for example to relieve their debt, that's a win win.


Most all the dems are running on it, yes?

So you think they are just lying to get votes?
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1 hour ago, Tug said:

Some trump supporters and their bots sound more desperate every day lol I especially like the face lift comment that’s sooo funney when you think of the orange combover king keep it up it’s really entertaining lol

Desperate? I got a huge chuckle out of that comment. Yes, we that support Trump are indeed shaking in our boots. ????

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8 hours ago, HuskerDo said:

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I worked both a full AND part-time job while attending college. All while carrying a full 16 credit hour workload. I carried a 4.0 GPA up until the last semester when I got lazy and got two "B"'s. If I could do such a thing then what can't others instead of wasting everyone's time and a lot of money. 

 

A friend kept telling me to get a student loan but I kept saying I could never fathom being in debt to anyone for anything. He finally convinced me to get the student loan but I deposited it in a Bank CD drawing over 18%. It was in 1981 when interest rates were through the roof. I actually remember asking the banking center manager if she thought the rates would be higher the following week (they were a tad over 18% when I asked). She said they probably would be so I waited a week to get the CD. I got another student loan the next year and did the same thing with it.

 

After 4 years the money had doubled and I paid off the student loans and had cash for a new car

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1 hour ago, HuskerDo said:

Desperate? I got a huge chuckle out of that comment. Yes, we that support Trump are indeed shaking in our boots. ????

Don’t worry this time Donald won’t be running against an unpopular woman and we are all aware how putin helped rig the election in donalds favor also keep in mind he got slapped good and proper in the mid terms yes it’s a different gig this time we are tired of the epic lies constantly the feckless incompetence the racist comments no don’t think Donald is a 2 term guy

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1 hour ago, HuskerDo said:

Desperate? I got a huge chuckle out of that comment. Yes, we that support Trump are indeed shaking in our boots. ????

They always ignore trump is the incumbent and has a roaring economy. They on the other hand have a veritable nithouse or socialists clinging onto a report. Yes we are shaking in our boots. Lol

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1 minute ago, Tug said:

Don’t worry this time Donald won’t be running against an unpopular woman and we are all aware how putin helped rig the election in donalds favor also keep in mind he got slapped good and proper in the mid terms yes it’s a different gig this time we are tired of the epic lies constantly the feckless incompetence the racist comments no don’t think Donald is a 2 term guy

C’mon man, you are running candidates that aren’t fit to start a lemonade stand,

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11 minutes ago, Tug said:

Don’t worry this time Donald won’t be running against an unpopular woman and we are all aware how putin helped rig the election in donalds favor also keep in mind he got slapped good and proper in the mid terms yes it’s a different gig this time we are tired of the epic lies constantly the feckless incompetence the racist comments no don’t think Donald is a 2 term guy

And you don't think Obama and Clinton lied over and over and tried to hide things? C'mon.

 

Yes, Trump won't be running against an unpopular woman (altho Clinton was VERY popular with 48% of the country). Instead he'll be running against a tired old man. Which one is to be decided. 

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9 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

C’mon man, you are running candidates that aren’t fit to start a lemonade stand,

No CD I disagree. Their candidates are fit to run a lemonade stand. It's just that someone either has to help them out of bed to get to the stand or someone will have to help them with the accounting on the venture.  

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7 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

He will lose the pop vote by a larger margin this year and still get to 270 EC. 

I don't know CD. He just might win the popular vote this time. He definitely has a different style but more people are doing well under his leadership so him winning the popular vote would not at all surprise me. 

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53 minutes ago, HuskerDo said:

Cute. Stupid but cute.

I was sincerely hoping that, with your impressive GPA, the cartoon would’ve helped you figure it out without my having to embarrass you by spelling out your fallacies. 

 

But I may have been placing too much stock in test scores (was your high score in Home Economics?)

 

Anyway, here goes:

 

What was the cost of a college education relative to minimum wage in 1980 as compared to today?

 

What was the median wage of a college graduate in 1980 relative to cost of living as compared to today?

 

What was the interest rate on a student loan in 1980 compared to bank deposit rates (guess you already know that one), and what are those rates today?

 

Your heroic story of bilking the government for loans you didn’t need bears no relation to the actual situation today where young people are asking for government paid education that they do need and can’t afford.

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10 minutes ago, Thakkar said:

I was sincerely hoping that, with your impressive GPA, the cartoon would’ve helped you figure it out without my having to embarrass you by spelling out your fallacies. 

 

But I may have been placing too much stock in test scores (was your high score in Home Economics?)

 

Anyway, here goes:

 

What was the cost of a college education relative to minimum wage in 1980 as compared to today?

 

What was the median wage of a college graduate in 1980 relative to cost of living as compared to today?

 

What was the interest rate on a student loan in 1980 compared to bank deposit rates (guess you already know that one), and what are those rates today?

 

Your heroic story of bilking the government for loans you didn’t need bears no relation to the actual situation today where young people are asking for government paid education that they do need and can’t afford.

I couldn't afford it either until I got two jobs to pay for it. Understand now? I'm not a socialist and pay for everything in life I want and need with my own hard work and sweat. Quit looking for excuses for the current generation and let them quit looking for handouts like you apparently think they are justified in doing. 

 

It's funny. This country was built on the creation of things like the automobile industry, the creation of the telephone, the creation of electricity, NASA, the Hubble telescope, the computer, the internet, the cell phone, the elimination of so many diseases and on and on not to mention taking time out to win two world wars. What has the current new generation(millennials) come up with? Bitcoin and Social Media. Now their tag-alongs want free education or the elimination of student debt and more and more socialism.

 

Yep, we are indeed going backwards these days.

 

BTW, I didn't BILK the govt for my student loans. They "offered" them to me with no pre-existing rules that I really needed them and could use them as I wanted to.

 

You lost this conversation my friend.  

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On ‎5‎/‎5‎/‎2019 at 2:41 PM, mikebike said:

His economic policy is no different than previous administrations and totally fails to address the real effects of wage stagnation and lack economic opportunity in the rust belt and heartland. Those folks are not dumb. They chose him because he promised to address their specific economic issues unlike the other candidate - they were led to believe he was “different”. Now, they are well aware that nothing he has done has changed anything for them and they will continue to look for what he promised... but they will now look elsewhere.

LOL. They will blame the Dems for their obstructing.

Look elsewhere? All the other candidates are DC establishment. To elect one of them is back to business as usual

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7 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

Biden says he's heard from 14 world leaders" who’ve voiced concerns to him about Trump"  even Margaret Thatcher ????

and calls it Freudian slip lol.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-05/biden-calls-trump-a-clown-while-decrying-president-s-nicknames

 

he is not going to make it folks, 2020 is a long way off

 

 

 

 

 

So if he's not going to make it, why do "trump" and "trump" fans seem so obsessed with attacking him? I have no idea who is going to be nominated at this point. It's ridiculously early. 

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8 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

Biden says he's heard from 14 world leaders" who’ve voiced concerns to him about Trump"  even Margaret Thatcher ????

and calls it Freudian slip lol.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-05-05/biden-calls-trump-a-clown-while-decrying-president-s-nicknames

 

he is not going to make it folks, 2020 is a long way off

 

 

 

 

 

That’s when the world leaders aren’t laughing at him 

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35 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

So if he's not going to make it, why do "trump" and "trump" fans seem so obsessed with attacking him? I have no idea who is going to be nominated at this point. It's ridiculously early. 

just sharing a bloomberg article is now an "attack"?  

im just trying save you donors some dollas????

 

 

 

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10 minutes ago, cbtstorm said:

just sharing a bloomberg article is now an "attack"?  

im just trying save you donors some dollas????

 

 

 

It's a wide open race. Also consider Iowa caucus voters are famously independent. They don't go by national polls. Also California is early this year and that should give a bump to Harris, but if it doesn't, uh oh for her. 

 

If democrats are going to go for a moderate like Biden, I'm wondering if that might mean Klobuchar still has a case to make. She's moderate like Biden, a Midwesterner like Mayor Pete, has a reasonably long resume unlike Mayor Pete, and is not an extreme of age, young or old.

 

Of course Mayor Pete is still one to watch. He has successfully defied being defined with a label and that could be a big benefit in the general to attract a wide range of voter ideologies. 

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1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

It's a wide open race. Also consider Iowa caucus voters are famously independent. They don't go by national polls. Also California is early this year and that should give a bump to Harris, but if it doesn't, uh oh for her. 

 

If democrats are going to go for a moderate like Biden, I'm wondering if that might mean Klobuchar still has a case to make. She's moderate like Biden, a Midwesterner like Mayor Pete, has a reasonably long resume unlike Mayor Pete, and is not an extreme of age, young or old.

 

Of course Mayor Pete is still one to watch. He has successfully defied being defined with a label and that could be a big benefit in the general to attract a wide range of voter ideologies. 

I'll except your deflection of previous comments about biden being attacked????

 

Biden/Clinton for big $$$$$ 2020, the rest will get thrown under the bus like Bernie in 2016. 

 

 

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It's a wide open race. Also consider Iowa caucus voters are famously independent. They don't go by national polls. Also California is early this year and that should give a bump to Harris, but if it doesn't, uh oh for her. 
 
If democrats are going to go for a moderate like Biden, I'm wondering if that might mean Klobuchar still has a case to make. She's moderate like Biden, a Midwesterner like Mayor Pete, has a reasonably long resume unlike Mayor Pete, and is not an extreme of age, young or old.
 
Of course Mayor Pete is still one to watch. He has successfully defied being defined with a label and that could be a big benefit in the general to attract a wide range of voter ideologies. 


Harris/Pete ...
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On 5/3/2019 at 5:24 PM, Jingthing said:

So you're a democrat? So if Biden is nominated you would vote for "grab em by the p-y" criminally corrupt unhinged demagogue "trump" because Biden's affectionate nature creeps you out? Some democrat!

Forced to leave your daughter alone in a room for five minutes with biden or obama, who are you gonna pick. Be honest. The guy is creepy. I never said anything about who I would vote for. 

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It will depend on where the big money falls. Everyone at this point is both promotable and disposable.

I can’t see Biden, Burnie or Clinton getting the nod.

I thought Booker for a while, but his bags got too heavy...

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