Morch Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Yeah ???? While their taking delivery of North Korea nuclear bomb technology and you can't blame them if it were true because the big bully won't grow up. Of course they are. Some posters have the oddest fantasies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dexterm Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Morch said: As said earlier, the World isn't fair. Such is life. Iran is not above applying threats, albeit not being a super-power, they're effectiveness is more on the regional level. Iran's history of voluntarily living up to international commitments could be questioned - this is how and why, the so-called Iran Deal came about. That's also the reason for the very strict inspections regime and limitations included. >>the very strict inspections regime and limitations included. Which is exactly what Iran was sticking to, before, let's not forget, Trump was the one to renege not Iran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrabbit Posted May 21, 2019 Share Posted May 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Morch said: As said earlier, the World isn't fair. Such is life. Iran is not above applying threats, albeit not being a super-power, they're effectiveness is more on the regional level. Iran's history of voluntarily living up to international commitments could be questioned - this is how and why, the so-called Iran Deal came about. That's also the reason for the very strict inspections regime and limitations included. after the last time I was there the country is in no condition to fight a war. I was bounced about Iran to see if I could do things with gas turbines without spares, I couldn't do a lot except some calibrations. I have to say I love the country and the people but not the leadership. I was told many times that they are not Farsee (about the leaders) they are Syrians or Palestinians. Take out the leadership, spare the people they are really deserving of being back in the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbri Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 20 hours ago, keith101 said: Trump is just trying to distract everyone away from all the investigations against him the same as he did with the Mueller report , Impeachment might just be the best thing . Lack of evidence be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
howbri Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 Have known many, many Iranians while living in Thailand. They are wonderful people for the most part and they hate their government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 21 hours ago, webfact said: "I think Iran would be making a very big mistake if they did anything," Trump told reporters as he left the White House on Monday evening for an event in Pennsylvania. "If they do something, it will be met with great force but we have no indication that they will." What kind of statement is this ? It is damn difficult to do just ' nothing '. 21 hours ago, webfact said: President Donald Trump warned on Monday Iran would be met with "great force" if it attacked U.S. interests in the Middle East Bravo ... With a world set for destruction by ecological disasters anyway , that is exactly what is needed ... evil clown ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nobodysfriend Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 9 hours ago, Morch said: Of course they are. Some posters have the oddest fantasies. May be , but you are certainly one of them ... ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 7 hours ago, dexterm said: >>the very strict inspections regime and limitations included. Which is exactly what Iran was sticking to, before, let's not forget, Trump was the one to renege not Iran. Thanks for stating the obvious. The point made was that the "very strict inspections regime and limitations included" were in place precisely because no one actually trusts Iran to voluntarily adhere to terms. There wasn't anything posted in favor of Trump's withdrawal from the Iran Deal. Somehow doubt you missed the context in which the post was made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 minutes ago, nobodysfriend said: May be , but you are certainly one of them ... ! Do tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Morch said: Well, the point made was that in many instances, local governments do not seem as keen as yourself on USA forces getting out. In most cases, said USA troops were in place long before Trump became president. Now, if Trump was to break such an agreement and pull out USA troops....oh, wait....wasn't that what you wished for? Oh come on now my post was clear referring to Trump & agreements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 11 hours ago, SheungWan said: They were doing that long prior to Trump becoming President. Please get your historical ducks in a row before kicking off. Quack, quack !! No good ducking when a nuke comes ???? posted " you can't blame them if it were true". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 11 hours ago, Morch said: Iran's history of voluntarily living up to international commitments could be questioned - this is how and why, the so-called Iran Deal came about. That's also the reason for the very strict inspections regime and limitations included. I shall agree, there distrust with the west has always been and still is. What good did " the very strict inspections " do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 A conspiracy theory post has been removed. Some posts containing music videos have been removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketman777 Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 19 hours ago, Morch said: With regard to most places, USA forces are there by invitation/under agreement. Not Syria !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebike Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 14 hours ago, Morch said: Iran is not above applying threats, albeit not being a super-power, they're effectiveness is more on the regional level. You really believe that in the post 9/11 era? A lot of hurt can be effected by small, focused, nearly invisible crew. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Kwasaki said: Oh come on now my post was clear referring to Trump & agreements. Yes. And if this was a word associations topic you'd get full marks. But still - how does your comment relate to either of my posts? Apart from the Trump->agreements->ha ha element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Kwasaki said: I shall agree, there distrust with the west has always been and still is. What good did " the very strict inspections " do. Not sure what your point was on either line. With regard to the second, though - the agreement seemed to be working well enough, with measures in place. Trump's withdrawal aside, I don't think anyone had any illusions as to Iran adhering to terms without them. If, for example, Iran declares it will not comply with the inspections regime, then other signatories will withdraw as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, rocketman777 said: Not Syria !!!! Yes, hence "most places". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morch Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 2 hours ago, mikebike said: You really believe that in the post 9/11 era? A lot of hurt can be effected by small, focused, nearly invisible crew. Yes. I do. One consequences of the 9/11 thing is heightened awareness for such scenarios. And that aside, while such attacks are possible, they do not stack up to the level of bringing a country to its knees. Not a match for the means available to a super-power. Bear in mind, I was referencing threats (as was the post I replied to), rather than actions. The USA can back up its threats, whereas some of Iran's are more on the amusing level. On the regional arena, though, things are different, due to Iran's relative strength vs. rivals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted May 22, 2019 Share Posted May 22, 2019 For some overview of armed forces in the region. I am not sure qualitative aspects have been well assessed. https://www.forbes.com/sites/dominicdudley/2018/02/26/ten-strongest-military-forces-middle-east/#690777b916a2 https://www.globalfirepower.com/countries-listing-middle-east.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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