Iran can sink U.S. warships with 'secret weapons', military official says

[rooster59]

Iran can sink U.S. warships with 'secret weapons', military official says

 

An F/A-18F Super Hornet makes an arrested landing on the flight deck of the U.S. Navy Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS Abraham Lincoln in the Gulf of Oman May 22, 2019. U.S. Navy/Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Matt Herbst/Handout via REUTERS

 

DUBAI (Reuters) - Iran can sink U.S. warships sent to the Gulf region using missiles and "secret weapons", a senior Iranian military official was quoted as saying by the semi-official news agency Mizan on Saturday.

 

The United States on Friday announced the deployment of 1,500 troops to the Middle East, describing it as an effort to bolster defenses against Iran as it accused the country's Revolutionary Guards of direct responsibility for this month's tanker attacks.

 

"America.. is sending two warships to the region. If they commit the slightest stupidity, we will send these ships to the bottom of the sea along with their crew and planes using two missiles or two new secret weapons," General Morteza Qorbani, an adviser to Iran's military command, told Mizan.

 

The U.S. actions were the latest by the Trump administration as it highlights what it sees as a threat of potential attack by Iran, and follows decisions to speed the deployment of an aircraft carrier strike group as well as send bombers and additional Patriot missiles to the Middle East.

 

Western experts say Iran often exaggerates its weapons capabilities, although there are concerns about its missile programme and particularly its long-range ballistic missiles.

 

(Reporting by Dubai newsroom; Editing by Alexander Smith)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-05-26

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[Tug]

Maybe so but it would be the last ship you sink not advisable and I hope Donald doesent allow any capital ships close enough to be indangered 

[JAG]

General Morteza Qorbani may well be adviser to Iran's military command, however suggesting that the Iranians sink a US warship is probably not terribly good advice!

[mtls2005]

Given the USN's recent track record the ships will probably plow into each other, thereby triggering an incident which can justify a war?

 

Gulf of Tonkin, 1964, President Johnson commented privately: "For all I know, our navy was shooting at whales out there.

 

 

 

 

[bluesofa]

28 minutes ago, rooster59 said:

Iran can sink U.S. warships sent to the Gulf region using missiles and "secret weapons", a senior Iranian military official was quoted as saying

Must be using the wrath of Allah.

[ezzra]

Do you REALLY want to 'sink a US ship' and incur the wrath of madman Trump Really? Iran is in the midst of the worst economical hardship right now their riel is almost worthless and everyday food necessities has gone by 30% since the oil embargo owning to Trump sanctions and curbs on all dealing with Iran, the last thing Iran will want to do is start a war now...

[BestB]

So Iran has been developing “secret weapons “ powerful enough to sink aircraft carrier? And not one but both?

 

speaking of shooting yourselves in the foot, have not they just confirmed what Trump claimed? Iran did not adhere to the agreement .

 

of course it’s bs, but by making public statement like this , Iran confirmed trump did the right thing by pulling out ?

[Alan Michael]

Yes Iran can sink US ships, but the US can sink Iran back to the stone age too.

[neeray]

Not a good idea to taunt Trump like this. He could certainly use a diversion right about now.

[jimmyyy]

The only thing Iran is going to sink is there country, they need to think long and hard before they launch anything against the USN.

[Chomper Higgot]

Evoking the story of David and Goliath is a reliable means to stir nationalism and the unquestioning political support that comes with it.

 

As is sending the nation’s armed forces to rattle the sword over an enemy of convenience.

 

 

[jimmyyy]

They will all die, call them what they want.  In the end, they will all be dead. 

[cnxgary]

Many many years ago Russia gave Iran what is called Cavitating Torpedos  that once fired releases a compressed gas to displace water and dramaticly increases the speed and distance ( 300 k an hour ) of the weapon. Being that the Straight of Hormus is some 25 miles wide these torpedos can hit any ship within a minute and a oil tanker takes how long to stop or veer off?

[Morch]

1 hour ago, mtls2005 said:

Given the USN's recent track record the ships will probably plow into each other, thereby triggering an incident which can justify a war?

 

Gulf of Tonkin, 1964, President Johnson commented privately: "For all I know, our navy was shooting at whales out there.

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, only the OP is about Iranian threats. Unless these are "fake" and planted by Trump's administration as well, maybe not so much what your comment was about.

[jimmyyy]

The minute they fire anything, the USN Surface Warfare fleet stationed there is going to go all ape shit on anything they have above, on or beneath the sea.  They might get one shot in, perhaps successfully so on a merchant oiler after that its all over for them.  There ports, oil facilities, factories, military facilities will all be destroyed.  The Surface warfare ships would end them in 30 minutes.  I am not even talking about the carriers or anything else that is stationed in the region.  People forget what surface warfare vessels are capable of.  I promise you the surface warfare group has not forgotten. 

[Morch]

53 minutes ago, BestB said:

So Iran has been developing “secret weapons “ powerful enough to sink aircraft carrier? And not one but both?

 

speaking of shooting yourselves in the foot, have not they just confirmed what Trump claimed? Iran did not adhere to the agreement .

 

of course it’s bs, but by making public statement like this , Iran confirmed trump did the right thing by pulling out ?

 

The so-called Iran Deal did not cover all arms development or acquisition by Iran. Rather, it was the Trump administration which claimed that such activities violate the spirit of the agreement, or something. Nothing which actually held or holds water, though. So, granted, Trump may use reasoning as suggested for "proof" and "confirmation", regardless of whether it applies or not.

[Chomper Higgot]

7 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

The so-called Iran Deal did not cover all arms development or acquisition by Iran. Rather, it was the Trump administration which claimed that such activities violate the spirit of the agreement, or something. Nothing which actually held or holds water, though. So, granted, Trump may use reasoning as suggested for "proof" and "confirmation", regardless of whether it applies or not.

Added to which, having withdrawn US support to the deal, effectively scrapping it, he has not presented an alternative or shown any believable intention of doing so.

[ChrisY1]

Iran secret weapons?.....probably old Russian junk.

[Morch]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Added to which, having withdrawn US support to the deal, effectively scrapping it, he has not presented an alternative or shown any believable intention of doing so.

 

Well, that's pretty much in line with pretty much all of Trump's actions regarding agreements, negotiations and re-negotiations. Domestic and foreign. Nothing new there.

 

I don't think that there aren't such alternatives postulated and readied - more to do with them not being a realistic or acceptable option. Doubt Trump is thoroughly familiar with any of that, though.

[bluesofa]

1 minute ago, ChrisY1 said:

Iran secret weapons?.....probably old Russian junk.

Sputnik 1? That must qualify as Russian junk.

[Morch]

9 minutes ago, ChrisY1 said:

Iran secret weapons?.....probably old Russian junk.

 

Iran often claims to have developed this or that advanced weapon system. In most cases, these seem to be reverse-engineered versions of formerly acquired hardware. Whether the "new" version is an improvement on the original is debatable.

 

In the context of the OP, two obvious examples would be:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noor_(missile)

and

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoot_(torpedo)

[AGareth2]

they have found the Trishula?

[Proboscis]

7 hours ago, ezzra said:

Do you REALLY want to 'sink a US ship' and incur the wrath of madman Trump Really? Iran is in the midst of the worst economical hardship right now their riel is almost worthless and everyday food necessities has gone by 30% since the oil embargo owning to Trump sanctions and curbs on all dealing with Iran, the last thing Iran will want to do is start a war now...

Actually I read the situation a little differently. Based on information from a trusted friend who has been in the country recently, before this latest crazy move by the USA, support for the regime was at its lowest among the ordinary Iranians. With the advent of economic hardship and costs rising, the regime was getting the blame.

 

But no sooner than Trump and John Bolton started their sabre rattling than this mood in Iran changed. Now the regime could point to an external threat, the old enemy America. The same people who destroyed their democratically elected government in the 1950s and gave them the repressive regime of the Shah.

 

Now the Iranians are united and ready to undergo hardship against an external threat. By the way, many of the ordinary people of Iran are rather pro-American. But they are also aware that the Trump regime is fickle. No one understands why Trump would have a go against Iran except perhaps to keep the older members of his base happy. They would remember the Iran hostages affair back in President Carter's time.

[BestB]

34 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

The so-called Iran Deal did not cover all arms development or acquisition by Iran. Rather, it was the Trump administration which claimed that such activities violate the spirit of the agreement, or something. Nothing which actually held or holds water, though. So, granted, Trump may use reasoning as suggested for "proof" and "confirmation", regardless of whether it applies or not.

You are right but the point is if Iran was developing “secret weapon” to take out an aircraft carrier it supports the claims Iran was developing everything else covered by agreement.

 

Again, in my personal opinion I call Iranian statement total bs, however it does play into Trump reasoning and most certainly does not help Iran in any way what so ever. I would wage , this statement can be easily spinned and Iran would loose its EU support or at least put some serious doubts 

[Fex Bluse]

50 minutes ago, cnxgary said:

Many many years ago Russia gave Iran what is called Cavitating Torpedos  that once fired releases a compressed gas to displace water and dramaticly increases the speed and distance ( 300 k an hour ) of the weapon. Being that the Straight of Hormus is some 25 miles wide these torpedos can hit any ship within a minute and a oil tanker takes how long to stop or veer off?

I don't get into the "whose 'male chicken' is bigger debates", but it'd be incorrect to assume that old, significant strategic threats have not been addressed by a country that spends so much on its military.

 

Anyway, arguably the most significant threat is the Iranian Cyber Guard or whatever it's called. 

[jimmyyy]

can't have cyber warfare if you don't have internet, bye bye undersea cable to iran.  See ya sat uplinks.  

[thaiguzzi]

1 hour ago, jimmyyy said:

They will all die, call them what they want.  In the end, they will all be dead. 

Charming.

If you have ever travelled through the ME and Iran, you will find some of the most proud, hospitable, friendly, generous and welcoming people on the planet.

Unfortunately most Americans don't have passports and don't like to travel.

Don't believe what your politicians want you to believe, ie Saudi good, Yemen bad. Israel good, Iran bad....

[mercman24]

ha everyone dissing russian arms as junk got to be a yank, they dont spout off what they got not like the yanks do ,remember the Russian pilot that done a runner with that fighter, to the west,  it was years ahead of anything the the yanks had, and i dont think for one minute their developement programme has stood still since then, and agree, remember sputnik

[thaiguzzi]

12 minutes ago, Fex Bluse said:

Anyway, arguably the most significant threat is the Iranian Cyber Guard or whatever it's called. 

Nah, it's the US Navy's own navigation systems and bumping into each other.

15 minutes ago, Proboscis said:

Actually I read the situation a little differently. Based on information from a trusted friend who has been in the country recently, before this latest crazy move by the USA, support for the regime was at its lowest among the ordinary Iranians. With the advent of economic hardship and costs rising, the regime was getting the blame.

 

But no sooner than Trump and John Bolton started their sabre rattling than this mood in Iran changed. Now the regime could point to an external threat, the old enemy America. The same people who destroyed their democratically elected government in the 1950s and gave them the repressive regime of the Shah.

 

Now the Iranians are united and ready to undergo hardship against an external threat. By the way, many of the ordinary people of Iran are rather pro-American. But they are also aware that the Trump regime is fickle. No one understands why Trump would have a go against Iran except perhaps to keep the older members of his base happy. They would remember the Iran hostages affair back in President Carter's time.

Well written.

That's the problem when you don't have fully functioning Stated Depts and Foreign Affairs staff, just a war mongerer like Bolton who works for the armaments industries.

Sick.

[jimmyyy]

it was not years ahead of anything.  The fighter was at Yokota and taken apart and studied.  As you NOT being a yank you were not there and have no clue as to what you are talking about beyond reading anti YANK literature.