UK PM candidate Johnson: Britain must leave EU by Oct. 31 or pay the price

[welovesundaysatspace]

36 minutes ago, Loiner said:

All Remainer delays and EU meddling.

If it makes you feel better... ???? 

[nkg]

22 hours ago, nkg said:

I went on to say that Brexit hasn't had any effect on the pound vs the baht for the last 2 and a half years.

 

I was half-hoping that somebody would disagree with me, but the numbers don't lie ????

 

In the last 2.5 years, between 1st November 2016 and 18th June 2019:

 

GBP fell 8.52% against the THB
JPY fell 14.47% against the THB
USD fell 10.87% against the THB
EUR fell 9.71% against the THB
CHF fell 13.09% against the THB

[Laughing Gravy]

10 hours ago, sawadee1947 said:

You might repeat it up to your end..... And I repeat: Nonsense

For those who are are either challenged or just pretend things didn't happen. That's what happens when you sign an Act. You can call it what you want.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Ireland

 

The partition of Ireland (Irish: críochdheighilt na hÉireann) divided the island of Ireland into two jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland. It took place on 3 May 1921 under the Government of Ireland Act 1920. Today the former is still known as Northern Ireland and forms part of the United Kingdom, while the latter is now a sovereign state also named Ireland and sometimes called the Republic of Ireland.

[Laughing Gravy]

Johnson and Hunt it is. there are quite a few posters who must be feeling rather embarrassed who said Johnson had no chance. They are the ones who are constantly trying to assassinate his character for every fart he has done.

 

Looks like the remainers 2nd referendum and stopping brexit is truly dead. As both Hunt and Johnson have ruled out a 2nd ref and that we must leave the EU.

 

Game over.

[sawadee1947]

11 minutes ago, Laughing Gravy said:

For those who are are either challenged or just pretend things didn't happen. That's what happens when you sign an Act. You can call it what you want.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_of_Ireland

 

The partition of Ireland (Irish: críochdheighilt na hÉireann) divided the island of Ireland into two jurisdictions, Northern Ireland and Southern Ireland. It took place on 3 May 1921 under the Government of Ireland Act 1920. Today the former is still known as Northern Ireland and forms part of the United Kingdom, while the latter is now a sovereign state also named Ireland and sometimes called the Republic of Ireland.

Ninety years ago Ireland was split in two after people living therewent to war against their British rulers. The south became a separate state, now called the Republic of Ireland. But the break-up led to decades of unrest and violence in Northern Ireland, which remained part of the UK.Jan 7, 2013

[Laughing Gravy]

Just now, sawadee1947 said:

Ninety years ago Ireland was split in two after people living therewent to war against their British rulers. The south became a separate state, now called the Republic of Ireland. But the break-up led to decades of unrest and violence in Northern Ireland, which remained part of the UK.Jan 7, 2013

As I said you signed it away. The facts are there in the 1920 act. Now you say you want it back. I know many that do not and I know even more on the North that will not let that happen. Anyway you have your own issues being the EU's stooge.

 

Back on track. The UK are leaving the EU. We don't get told to vote again (up to now) because we don't like the result unlike some countries.

[AlexRich]

On 6/19/2019 at 9:48 PM, nkg said:

 

I didn't say Brexit was irrelevant. I said:

 

 

I went on to say that Brexit hasn't had any effect on the pound vs the baht for the last 2 and a half years.

And you are wrong about that too ... GBP has been suffering since a "no deal" scenario became more likely ... something that originally was considered unlikely. 

 

If May's deal had gone through in December 2018 GBP would be currently trading much higher against the Baht. It would have bucked the trend, and made up some of the ground it ceded after the initial referendum result. It would not be at 39.

[nkg]

50 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

And you are wrong about that too ... GBP has been suffering since a "no deal" scenario became more likely ... something that originally was considered unlikely. 

 

If May's deal had gone through in December 2018 GBP would be currently trading much higher against the Baht. It would have bucked the trend, and made up some of the ground it ceded after the initial referendum result. It would not be at 39.

 

How do you know what the GBP would have been doing? Are you a fortune-teller?

 

I came up with some numbers to illustrate my argument, you've just come up with some mumbo-jumbo.

 

 

[nkg]

2 hours ago, AlexRich said:

And you are wrong about that too ... GBP has been suffering since a "no deal" scenario became more likely ... something that originally was considered unlikely. 

 

If May's deal had gone through in December 2018 GBP would be currently trading much higher against the Baht. It would have bucked the trend, and made up some of the ground it ceded after the initial referendum result. It would not be at 39.

 

It's always nice to prove our fellow chatters wrong in a political discussion. Thank you for the opportunity AlexRich ????

 

Since December 1st 2018:

 

GBP fell 6.73% against THB
USD fell 5.28% against THB
EUR fell 6.32% against THB

 

Even the mightiest currencies in the world have been crushed by the terror of Brexit ????

 

 

 

 

[AlexRich]

5 hours ago, nkg said:

 

How do you know what the GBP would have been doing? Are you a fortune-teller?

 

I came up with some numbers to illustrate my argument, you've just come up with some mumbo-jumbo.

 

 

Your numbers don’t prove the point your making ... and I don’t need to be a fortune teller to understand what’s is obvious. 

 

GBP was already lower than it should have been against the Baht (and others) as a consequence of the uncertainty about the UK economy after the Brexit vote ... it should have improved once the UK and EU agreed terms ... but it has simply got worse as the uncertainty has grown. And it would plunge much further in the event of a no deal Brexit, against every currency. 

 

Are you suggesting that GBP would be at 39 to the Baht if the UK were now in a transition period with the EU? There’s no currency specialist in the world that would agree with you.

 

 

[AlexRich]

4 hours ago, nkg said:

 

It's always nice to prove our fellow chatters wrong in a political discussion. Thank you for the opportunity AlexRich ????

 

Since December 1st 2018:

 

GBP fell 6.73% against THB
USD fell 5.28% against THB
EUR fell 6.32% against THB

 

Even the mightiest currencies in the world have been crushed by the terror of Brexit ????

 

 

 

 

The EUR and GBP are both casualties of Brexit ... a no deal hits both of them, but hits GBP much harder. Add to that Trump’s trade war with China ... with the EU next in line. The US dollar is impacted by Fed policy ... and the Fed are no longer signalling interest rate hikes for 2019 ... so no surprise here. 

[Kwasaki]

1 hour ago, AlexRich said:

There’s no currency specialist in the world that would agree with you.

Well the currency specialist know now UK leaves in Oct as it should of done in March 29th.

[AlexRich]

4 minutes ago, Kwasaki said:

Well the currency specialist know now UK leaves in Oct as it should of done in March 29th.

 

I wouldn't bet on that either ... more likely is Johnson anointed, Johnson goes to Brussels, Johnson sent packing from Brussels, Johnson declares "no deal", Parliament bring down Johnson Government, snap General Election, Corbyn wins or goes into coalition with SNP, softest of Brexit or none at all ... Tory party out of power for a generation ... welcome to Venezuela. 

 

 

 

 

[Kwasaki]

8 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

I wouldn't bet on that either ... more likely is Johnson anointed, Johnson goes to Brussels, Johnson sent packing from Brussels, Johnson declares "no deal", Parliament bring down Johnson Government, snap General Election, Corbyn wins or goes into coalition with SNP, softest of Brexit or none at all ... Tory party out of power for a generation ... welcome to Venezuela. 

I explain the position in the other thread, Boris doesn't have to go to Brussels he just has to keep the Conservative's in power and do nothing but stall until Oct when the UK will be out EU automatically.

[Loiner]

41 minutes ago, AlexRich said:

 

I wouldn't bet on that either ... more likely is Johnson anointed, Johnson goes to Brussels, Johnson sent packing from Brussels, Johnson declares "no deal", Parliament bring down Johnson Government, snap General Election, Corbyn wins or goes into coalition with SNP, softest of Brexit or none at all ... Tory party out of power for a generation ... welcome to Venezuela. 

 

 

 

 

Remainer political fortune telling at its crappiest again. Got it wrong for the referendum result and Armagheddon immediately after. Getting it wrong again for a Bojo premiership. He doesn't have to go any where near Brussels - just spin it out, or prorogue parliament as they thoroughly thoroughly deserve.

Parliament won't bring down a Johnson government and there'll be no General Election or 2nd Referendum. They tried a no confidence vote against May only six months ago and failed. As expected, the MPs drew back into party lines, maintaining the coalition majority to preserve the CON government, and more importantly - their jobs!

LAB and Remainers will huff and puff, the MSM will lap it up, and we will drift to Brexit by end Oct'19. The government is getting ready; Business & Finance should be ready; th rest of the world is getting ready; but I doubt the EU will have sorted out their finances. All you Remainer doom mongers better sort out your wills for whatever plague and pestilence you're expecting.

Welcome to Brexit and freedom!

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, Kwasaki said:

I explain the position in the other thread, Boris doesn't have to go to Brussels he just has to keep the Conservative's in power and do nothing but stall until Oct when the UK will be out EU automatically.

It appears that you forget that for Boris the leaver flag is just a temporary flag of convenience, in a lifetime devoted to self aggrandizement. A lying charade of a human he may be, but the buffoonery is a mask, he is not actually stupid. Does he really want a no deal brexit with the economic disaster that will entail (He's not totally stupid remember - lands of milk and honey are for unicorns). Some time there will be another election, if the Tories are in command of a disaster they will be history, many of them have enough grey matter to work that one out.

[Kwasaki]

4 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

It appears that you forget that for Boris the leaver flag is just a temporary flag of convenience, in a lifetime devoted to self aggrandizement. A lying charade of a human he may be, but the buffoonery is a mask, he is not actually stupid. Does he really want a no deal brexit with the economic disaster that will entail (He's not totally stupid remember - lands of milk and honey are for unicorns). Some time there will be another election, if the Tories are in command of a disaster they will be history, many of them have enough grey matter to work that one out.

Don't agree with you the UK is out in October and only he as pm can hold it up. 

[nontabury]

10 hours ago, AlexRich said:

And you are wrong about that too ... GBP has been suffering since a "no deal" scenario became more likely ... something that originally was considered unlikely. 

 

If May's deal had gone through in December 2018 GBP would be currently trading much higher against the Baht. It would have bucked the trend, and made up some of the ground it ceded after the initial referendum result. It would not be at 39.

 

 Agree that the £ against the baht has suffered since the people’s referendum, though so have many other currencies,but of course their depreciation was not the result of the British vote.

And likewise if Mays so-called deal has gone through, it could have resulted in it recovering some of its loss. However, what’s to say that if the country had got behind, and accepted the Democratic decisions of the people’s vote, instead of acting like spoilt children, that the £ would not have already recovered most of its losses.

Well you’ll probably say that’s pure speculation,which would be true,exactly the same as your speculation.

 

[tebee]

2 hours ago, Kwasaki said:

Don't agree with you the UK is out in October and only he as pm can hold it up. 

It's sad the faith fools have in charlitains

[BritManToo]

7 minutes ago, tebee said:

It's sad the faith fools have in charlitains

Well it's a choice between choose Boris and wait 4 months to see if he's a phony, or choose Hunt and wait another 3 or more years to see if he's a phony. Personally, I prefer the quick option.

[evadgib]

1 hour ago, BritManToo said:

Well it's a choice between choose Boris and wait 4 months to see if he's a phony, or choose Hunt and wait another 3 or more years to see if he's a phony. Personally, I prefer the quick option.

Hunt isn't particularly popular in his constituency, unlike his predecessor Virginia Bottomly.

[BritManToo]

49 minutes ago, evadgib said:

Hunt isn't particularly popular in his constituency, unlike his predecessor Virginia Bottomly.

Off topic,

Did you know "I'm an evil tory bigot" is an exact anagram of Virginia Bottomly.

[Chomper Higgot]

2 hours ago, tebee said:

It's sad the faith fools have in charlitains

Like drowning men clutching at a passing straw. 

 

The speed and uniformity of the attachment of the forum's Brexiteers to Boris Alexander (man of the people, proven bare faced liar,   and two faced hypocrite} de Pfefll Johnson is astounding. 

[petemoss]

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Well it's a choice between choose Boris and wait 4 months to see if he's a phony, or choose Hunt and wait another 3 or more years to see if he's a phony. Personally, I prefer the quick option.

Me too. Always said that I prefer a quick death compared to a slow and painful one.

[nkg]

9 hours ago, AlexRich said:

The EUR and GBP are both casualties of Brexit ... a no deal hits both of them, but hits GBP much harder. Add to that Trump’s trade war with China ... with the EU next in line. The US dollar is impacted by Fed policy ... and the Fed are no longer signalling interest rate hikes for 2019 ... so no surprise here. 

 

Here's a list of the 10 most traded currencies in the world:

 

https://www.ig.com/uk/trading-strategies/the-top-ten-most-traded-currencies-in-the-world-180904

 

Since December 1st 2018:

 

USD fell 5.28% against the THB
EUR fell 6.32% against the THB
JPY fell 0.89% against the THB
GBP fell 6.73% against the THB
AUD fell 10.9% against the THB
CAD fell 5.84% against the THB
CHF fell 5.46% against the THB
CNY fell 4.5% against the THB
SEK fell 9.49% against the THB
NZD fell 10.06% against the THB

 

All 10 of the world's biggest currencies fell against the baht. Brexit really must have hurt the USA, Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, China, Sweden and New Zealand ????

 

Or maybe there's another explanation.

 

The Thai baht gained strength against all the major currencies since December 2018. Nothing to do with Brexit at all. Sorry.

 

[Chomper Higgot]

15 minutes ago, nkg said:

 

Here's a list of the 10 most traded currencies in the world:

 

https://www.ig.com/uk/trading-strategies/the-top-ten-most-traded-currencies-in-the-world-180904

 

Since December 1st 2018:

 

USD fell 5.28% against the THB
EUR fell 6.32% against the THB
JPY fell 0.89% against the THB
GBP fell 6.73% against the THB
AUD fell 10.9% against the THB
CAD fell 5.84% against the THB
CHF fell 5.46% against the THB
CNY fell 4.5% against the THB
SEK fell 9.49% against the THB
NZD fell 10.06% against the THB

 

All 10 of the world's biggest currencies fell against the baht. Brexit really must have hurt the USA, Europe, Japan, Australia, Canada, Switzerland, China, Sweden and New Zealand ????

 

Or maybe there's another explanation.

 

The Thai baht gained strength against all the major currencies since December 2018. Nothing to do with Brexit at all. Sorry.

 

So this crock of Brexit kicked off on December 1st 2018.

 

Who knew?!

[nkg]

16 hours ago, AlexRich said:

And you are wrong about that too ... GBP has been suffering since a "no deal" scenario became more likely ... something that originally was considered unlikely. 

 

If May's deal had gone through in December 2018 GBP would be currently trading much higher against the Baht. It would have bucked the trend, and made up some of the ground it ceded after the initial referendum result. It would not be at 39.

 

31 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

So this crock of Brexit kicked off on December 1st 2018.

 

Who knew?!

 

It was AlexRich that picked December 2018, not me ????

[Kwasaki]

4 hours ago, tebee said:

It's sad the faith fools have in charlitains

So what's ganna happen when Boris gets in oh guru expert.