Non O (Multi Entry) no longer issued at Royal Thai Embassy in London - new financial requirements for Single Entry Tourist Visas (SETV)

[VBF]

2 minutes ago, fresher said:

Oh yes, thank you. It is the Single Entry Tourist Visas (SETV) that is 60 days. So I can get Non-O single entry visas for each 12 week trip. Just have to apply twice a year instead of once. Not so bad?

@fresher I know you're retired but do you get a State Pension yet? My reason for asking is in #117 above

[Stocky]

1 hour ago, MobileContent said:

The issue is that you must hold a Singapore Residency or a Work Permit to actually get a one year visa ME visa plus on top 400,000 Baht.

Found it - report is a here

 

 

[PST]

24 minutes ago, Jumbo1968 said:

Yes but would they issue me one on me being in receipt of my U.K. Pension ?

Not sure to be honest, i'm 46, and my NON O ME are based on having Thai wife and kids, so my post would only really apply to anyone in similar circumstances.

I'm sure other members will be able to help.

 

Joe.

Edited June 20, 2019 by PST

[rexall]

6 hours ago, moe666 said:

You hit the nail on the spot Cap. but there is still a few here who think it is just fine for people to break the rules and have a real cry when Thailand enforce there rules and laws.

Get over it boys the good old days of people coming and going for extended periods is over unless you have the correct paper work

And I hope you will be as icy-Objectivist and faux-Stoic when they come for you!

[cnx355]

7 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

keep tightening.. a few more screws and no-one will qualify for any type of visa!

Thailand keep making visiting more difficult and other countries around are improving their visa requirement. TIT ! 

 

7 hours ago, GeorgeCross said:

 

 

 

 

[Bangkok Barry]

38 minutes ago, ubonjoe said:

Some off topic posts bringing politics into the discussion have been removed. Political topics and discussions are not allowed on this forum.

 

Further evidence that Thailand is not a nice place to be. Restrictions on free speech. I'd leave tomorrow if I could, and I'm sure I'm not alone. I do worry where it's all going to end.

[rexall]

3 hours ago, lkv said:

With all the bad foreigner propaganda, you finally bought into it, didn't you?

 

There are bad apples in every country, however other less nationalistic or less communist countries would not use limited examples as justification for oppressive policies to the extent Thailand does.

 

The bad apples saying is actually considered by some a logical fallacy in certain contexts.

 

"Group punishment" and "Group sanctions" as a means to deal with a few bad actors are policies abandoned by most developed countries.

Edited June 20, 2019 by rexall

[JimmyJ]

5 hours ago, mike1967 said:

So let me get this right. You have to book a flight before you apply for a 60 day Visa? If for any reason your Visa is denied then your flight is wasted. That seems really fair.

Exactly.

It's doing it backwards.

[Jumbo1968]

2 minutes ago, JimmyJ said:

Exactly.

It's doing it backwards.

Thailand is not a forward thinking country, they don’t appear too realise that the strong baht is killing their own small business person, 

[atyclb]

3 hours ago, Chivas said:

Fun and games coming. I would need to provide bank statements but currently online only and you cant screenshot from a banking app in my case the Halifax for a SETV

Going to have to return to paper statements.

2nd problem that whilst I stay 6-7 weeks it goes without saying no one pays all of that upfront for obvious reasons and in my case I normally a book a week online and go from there subsequently

So is the requirement that you have all 7 weeks paid for up front lol....bye Thailand I've had enough of this shit

Farcical

 

if you see it on the screen you can get a screenshot. what os r u using? u may need a third party screen capture app

[rexall]

3 hours ago, MrBanks said:

I have been using this visa for years, for me it has been great. I travel a lot for business and in the times when I happened to be in Thailand for more than 90 days it was a great excuse to go away for a few days, either with my wife or flying solo.

I must admit though I thought that at some time it would come to an end, there are not many countries that give, what is basically a 1 year tourist visa which essentially gives a person the right to visit the country for a year, admittedly with 90 day border runs. UK for instance only allows a maximum of 180 days per annum.

Another poster has pointed out that this visa is not available at any Embassy which is using the on-line process, which surely one day they all will be, which, if a true statement means that eventually this visa will disappear and no longer be available in Ho Chi Mihn or other such places. In that case then it seems to make sense to look at the alternatives.

I have studied the other visa options, I can qualify for a marriage visa and a retirement visa and do the 90 day reporting and annual extensions, however, I think for me the best option has to be the 20 year Thai Elite for 1 million baht and let the Elite staff do the running around.

My only concern is that future governments might take away that visa, but past history has shown that when they change it they honour the terms of the existing visas already issued. 

I don't think that Thailand are doing anything wrong taking away this visa, I think that they are just bringing their visa policies more in line with other countries. Perhaps soon they will review their policy on permanent residence and Thai Citizenship and make it a little easier to attain for people, who they consider, to be the right sort.

Usually when a gov enacts a new law, or pulls an old law out of mothballs and decides to start enforcing it, or tightens regulations in other ways, is is to provide some service to society,  or to prevent some harm from being done to society.  What great service is being provided or harm being prevented or fixed  by the drip-drip-drip-drip  tightening of the visa process?  What exactly, precisely is the purpose other than some officials being constipated and losing "face"  over the fact that they cannot completely control the process?  There is this floating sense that the nasty, smelly foreigners are somehow doing some unnamed "bad things" and as some OPs here keep insisting, are "abusing the system."  What does that even mean??? What is this abuse?  Who and what is being abused?  And finally, is it worth it, really worth it, for Thailand  "Land of Smiles" to turn an unfriendly, unsmiling, unwelcoming face to potential visitors? How is that solving anything?  And who has been saved, helped, fixed or protected?

[MobileContent]

1 hour ago, Stocky said:

The report I saw was from a non Singapore resident, the website indicates residency is a requirement for some countries (mainly African/Arab) most western countries are not on that list. I've tried searching for the thread but I can't find it.

 

Importantly this is an online setup that has retained a multi entry option.

 

The financials are not an issue, getting a multi-non O is.

Give it a try and u end up with a 3 month visa, of course if u have the dash and can show a lot of money in the account then you are fine. Singapore is a tough country to get a one year visa.

Edited June 20, 2019 by MobileContent

[MobileContent]

1 hour ago, Stocky said:

Found it - report is a here

 

 

Yes, but have you ever applied for one? Why do you think that only Savanaket and HCM City are on the list for an easy None O and not Singapore? I am sure if Singapore is that easy Ubonoe would have added Singapore to the list.

 

Your caputure is about 2017 and now we have 2019 and even Singaporean are not welcome more in Thailand

[Stocky]

5 minutes ago, MobileContent said:

Why do you think that only Savanaket and HCM City are on the list for an easy None O and not Singapore?

You missed the point. Singapore has an online system which allows application for a multi-entry. If other embassies in Laos or Vietnam move to online let's hope, like Singapore, the ME option is retained.

[ubonjoe]

1 hour ago, ubonjoe said:

Some off topic posts bringing politics into the discussion have been removed. Political topics and discussions are not allowed on this forum.

And now a comment on moderation has been removed.

[fresher]

1 hour ago, VBF said:

@fresher I know you're retired but do you get a State Pension yet? My reason for asking is in #117 above

Yes I do receive the state pension (6 years), I have just had to let them see my bank statement, with the government payment in my receipts, to get the Non-O visa. I used to go to their office in Cardiff, but 2? years ago they made multiple entry Non-O visa available only in the London embassy. But always very straight forward to do, first by visiting the Cardiff office then posting to London.

[elliss]

 Proof of address in UK ,  naughty .

 Big brother could pick this up , community tax payments  etc . Omg .

 

 

 

 

 

Edited June 20, 2019 by elliss

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

8 hours ago, dcnx said:

Don’t understand the logic behind one embassy ditching the METV. 

 

I think the key question here, seemingly totally unaddressed in the OP article, is is this move by the London Embassy some kind of singular move, OR is this the first sign of the MFA and all its embassies/consulates discontinuing the Multi-Entry O???

 

[VBF]

6 minutes ago, elliss said:

 Proof of address in UK ,  naughty .

 Big brother could pick this up , community tax payments  etc . Omg .

 

 

 

 

 

Not a problem......

The Royal Thai Embassy in London can issue visa to the passport holders of the above-mentioned countries, provided that the applicant has a residence status in the United Kingdom or Ireland.

 

So if you're applying at the London Embassy, you should be UK - resident.  So you'll be paying those anyway. You are, aren't you? ????

Edited June 20, 2019 by VBF

[Issannative]

It's a junta fuled by self importance and national fever expect more to come

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[somtumwrong]

1 hour ago, Bangkok Barry said:

 

Further evidence that Thailand is not a nice place to be. Restrictions on free speech. I'd leave tomorrow if I could, and I'm sure I'm not alone. I do worry where it's all going to end.

I thought I'd settle there with my family (Thai wife and kid) in maybe 5 years, but somehow I feel that we should settle in my home country - cold but happy and functional. Luckily I own a house in my home country, have all my assets here, and only a condo in Bkk. And my wife is ok to move here. I don't want to live like many of you people, on the edge, with flimsy rules changing all the time. No matter if I can afford the Elite Visa, I feel more and more uneasy about Thailand, its lawlessness and lack of any real development. The countries around Thailand are evolving though, but I don't want to learn yet another language. Maybe it's better to just live here and take vacations in Thailand (would prefer Vietnam but the wife is Thai ???? ) I feel sorry for the guys who cannot afford Elite but have to travel to work back to their home country, like me. This is kind of a deal breaker for me. If they don't want me there, I'm happy to pull out ????

[StayinThailand2much]

As for the 30 Day Visa Exempt notice; if I have the cash and proof for onward travel on me, does that mean that I am 'guaranteed' entry with reference to the London embassy's info, or may the IO at the airport just laugh at me as he is allowed to 'make his own rules'?

Edited June 20, 2019 by StayinThailand2much

[Issannative]

If we were dealing with a free fair elected government then we may expect more but we all know and understand this is not the situation at the moment soo we all just have to hold on tight and hope the ride does not throw us off

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[wobalt]

They should offer now a short way to permanent residency independent from working history but dependent how long you are married and how good you are integrated in the society


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[Issannative]

They should offer now a short way to permanent residency independent from working history but dependent how long you are married and how good you are integrated in the society


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I completely agree

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[battersea]

I always get a non o multi from London on the basis of a dependent Thai child.
His and mine passports, tabien baans, divorce and custody documents...fairly straightforward...
now...do i have to get a disease check and a police check and only get a single entry ?
i have 100,000 bht coming into Thailand every month
..does anyone have any ideas ?

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[Bangkok Barry]

4 minutes ago, wobalt said:

They should offer now a short way to permanent residency independent from working history but dependent how long you are married and how good you are integrated in the society


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I've been married to a Thai for nearly 30 years and lived in Thailand for more than 25. And I STILL have to apply for a visa every year, giving the same information I've given them over and over and over and over before. And I still have to get out of the country every 90 days or travel hundreds of kilometres to an immigration office to ask if I can live with my wife for another few weeks, please.

[SteveMack]

I hope to come thailand for 2 months dec and jan, 2019-2020,  I will have a 2 month air ticket, I usually come on 30 day Visa exempt, and get an 30 extension in Udon, Will I still be able to do that ? 

[DrTuner]

11 minutes ago, wobalt said:

They should offer now a short way to permanent residency independent from working history but dependent how long you are married and how good you are integrated in the society

But that would make us a permanent pain in the arse instead of a temporary one. Which is why it won't happen. Quite the opposite.

[wobalt]

It really has to be a human rights violation to the effect of being able to have a family life.

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The problem is that expats are not organized and have no lobby here.


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