New smoking at home law: "It's not a ban we are protecting the kids", top official

[johnny49r]

7 hours ago, webfact said:

The law is set to be enforced in Thailand from August 20th this year. 

Enforced? By whom? The leading officials that come up with these childish ideas don't seem to realize that putting another law on the books doesn't mean zip if there is no enforcement. 

My mama always used to say, "stupid is as stupid does" but she could never have imagined how far stupid has evolved! 

[Krataiboy]

Unworkable in practice. Imagine trying to prove an individual's lung cancer was the result of inhaling second hand smoke. A field day for the lawyers and nobody else.

[ThaiBunny]

1 minute ago, Krataiboy said:

Unworkable in practice. Imagine trying to prove an individual's lung cancer was the result of inhaling second hand smoke.

Especially if they live in Chiang Mai

[lvr181]

Good idea to protect the kids - BUT there are many many others courses of action that should be taken also, to protect their kids!

 

I guess they may well start to get beyond Thai 1.0 to maybe Thai 1.5 but NOT Thai 4.0! There seems to be a dearth of 'high order thinking' among those in authority.

It seems to have been replaced by "patting oneself on the back" in order to go forward. ????

 

I'm not sure why but an "Ebola Cure" keeps popping up in my mind. ????

[connda]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

Lertpanya Buranabanthit - the leader of the Department of Women's Affairs and Family Development - said the law does not seek to ban smoking at home. 

"...but do it and we find out that the kiddies and old people are breathing in second-hand smoke, or if someone contracts a lung disease and it's off to prison for you - but it's not a ban."    "Also, don't worry about that PM 2.5 air in the North.  That's not a problem.  We kick that can down the road from March though May and look!  Wonderful air now.  But don't dare light up in front of the kiddies.  Your second hand smoke is a bad, bad, problem - the AQI PM 2.5 above 250 isn't a problem.  If it was a problem we'd throw people in jail.  But we don't - so no problem."

[RJRS1301]

1. I wonder where the evidenced based research can be found for this action?
2.  Passive smoking is of concern but children on scooters without helmets just as dangerous, and more immediate risk of harm
3.  Poor diet
4.  Sexual abuse even more so

[chama]

This thinly veiled excuse intended to be used as an excuse for entering peoples homes is impossible to enforce and it would be shocking if there wasn't pushback from society.

[lamyai3]

10 hours ago, sammieuk1 said:

Looks like he needs to keep his syrup on

The kids should be protected from his barnet. If he catches them sniggering there'll be hell toupee... 

[IAMHERE]

"It's for the kids"   I've heard that often enough. 

[mommysboy]

It is a law- of course it is!

 

Surely only a very small minority of people now smoke in the house in front of kids.  Why?.... because public education has worked in this field if nowhere else.

 

Sledge hammer to crack a nut.

[Ulic]

I know quite a few mothers here in Canada that will not allow their husbands to smoke in the house because of their children living there. Themen smoke in their garage. The husbands consider is a win-win. the children are not exposed to secondhand smoke and whenever they want to get away from the ball and chain they head to the garage for a smoke. Some even have a beer fridge and a TV and escape for hours at a time.

[mania]

Thailand has become a most bizarre form of illiterate Nanny State.

 

Given everything others have mentioned already regarding Thai Children's health

Traffic deaths, pollution etc etc

[gk10002000]

OK, and go prohibit drinking alcohol, and about a dozen other things.  Will there be a "rat out your neighbor" bounty or reward?  Will any kid that now has a beef against their parent's be able to phone in a complaint to the cops?  Seems pretty odd ball.  Wonder what the real driving force is behind this

[Mises]

When they enforce the ban on smoking in restaurants and bars then, and only then, they can look at extending the ban elsewhere.

[55Jay]

11 hours ago, dinsdale said:

The top brains formulating new policies.

 

 

 

[brianthainess]

On 6/24/2019 at 8:47 AM, 300sd said:

Yes of course we understand.

Safety First ! 

[brianthainess]

I would smoke outside but the pollution might kill me. 

[brianthainess]

14 hours ago, lamyai3 said:

The kids should be protected from his barnet. If he catches them sniggering there'll be hell toupee... 

I thought it was beany.

[transam]

On 6/24/2019 at 9:32 AM, sammieuk1 said:

Looks like he needs to keep his syrup on and recommend vaping as everyone here in CM vapes for 4 months a year solid ban or no ban????

Well I doubt these will be banned, even though they are dangerous, attracting drivers attention...

 

 

 

[essox essox]

On 6/24/2019 at 8:51 AM, smedly said:

Simple education and Tv adds - making up stupid unenforceable law is not the answer

 

another example of uneducated people in responsible jobs of authority trying to come up with something intelligent - not possible 

is it a law or just a ban of smoking in homes??

[wgdanson]

21 hours ago, dcnx said:

Wrap your head around that. People who think THAT is a good look, are making laws to government everyone else.

And the look of Donald and Boris?   LOL

[sjaak327]

This law isn't targetting anything and is unenforceable. A classic example of a law drawn up by people who gave it zero thought. Incompetent and out of this world come to mind.

 

Meanwhile we are being told that a much bigger problen (air pollution) supposedly was stable in the past five years! I doubt many people up north are agreeing with that statement.

 

Why do children (and Adults) not deserve protection from this much bigger health hazard?

 

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[ben2talk]

On 6/24/2019 at 9:12 AM, moe666 said:

I have to ask, who is going to enforce this new law. The police will not do it, you going to go to some guys house and tell him he cannot smoke with all of his relatives there. Never ever come up with a law that you cannot enforce it only makes people more lawless.

In Thailand, laws are not meant to be enforced. They just exist as tools to be used as and when you wish to bully someone or take their money.

 

Meanwhile, smoking is entirely legal whilst vaping is a prison sentence.