UK far-right activist Tommy Robinson convicted in contempt-of-court case

[sanemax]

1 minute ago, KhaoYai said:

Do you understand English? How is that stating that the Muslim child grooming/raping gangs should have more right to UK Citizenship than Tommy Robinson does?

 

Have you been smoking something you shouldn't have?

 

Please read and re-read my post until you understand it or come back when you're sober.

If Tommy has "less right" to UK citizenship than Muslims grooming gangs , that would logically mean that the grooming gangs have more right to UK citizenship than Tommy does .

   (Please correct me if I misunderstood what you meant by explaining  , rather than just being abusive) 

[KhaoYai]

8 minutes ago, petemoss said:

Check out his forum name. I think it more likely that he needs to come back when he's sane. Just a troll.

Could be, but I have read my post again and I can see how it can have been misconstrued and I have apologised. I do find it a little hard to believe though, that anyone could think that I believe Tommy Robinson and his cronies have less rights than the pigs who groomed and raped vulnerable kids. Personally I'd dump the lot of them somewhere cold like the artic circle.

[KhaoYai]

12 minutes ago, sanemax said:

If Tommy has "less right" to UK citizenship than Muslims grooming gangs , that would logically mean that the grooming gangs have more right to UK citizenship than Tommy does .

   (Please correct me if I misunderstood what you meant by explaining  , rather than just being abusive) 

If you read that post again you will see my explanation and apology in an edit.

[joecoolfrog]

20 hours ago, Thainesss said:

So Tommy Robinson is in hot water for reporting on muslim rape gangs and liberals are defending the rapists right to a quiet trial.

 

What a laughingstock. 

The laughing stock is the person who twists facts in order to further his agenda.

[KhaoYai]

3 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

The laughing stock is the person who twists facts in order to further his agenda.

Quite, Robinson's activities could actually have lead to the groomers being aquitted - I believe their defence counsel tried for that.  Robinson reported and posted videos despite being warned not to by the judge - clearly he learned nothing from his previous conviction for contempt.

[joecoolfrog]

10 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Could be, but I have read my post again and I can see how it can have been misconstrued and I have apologised. I do find it a little hard to believe though, that anyone could think that I believe Tommy Robinson and his cronies have less rights than the pigs who groomed and raped vulnerable kids. Personally I'd dump the lot of them somewhere cold like the artic circle.

I dont understand what the uproar is about , the fact is that all parties had the same rights and were treated in the same manner.

The defendents were convicted of serious ,vile crimes and were found guilty and sentenced accordingly.

Robinson was found guilty ( again ) of a far less serious crime and consequently got a much lighter punishment.

So whats the problem ?

Edited July 7, 2019 by joecoolfrog

[sanemax]

5 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

If you read that post again you will see my explanation and apology in an edit.

Fair enough , a misunderstanding .

Its much easier when we can talk about things and discuss posts , rather than call each other trolls , question their English ability or suggest that they are either drunk or stoned on a simple misunderstanding   

[petemoss]

1 minute ago, KhaoYai said:

clearly he learned nothing from his previous conviction for contempt.

You can't teach stupid.

[GroveHillWanderer]

11 hours ago, Orton Rd said:

Only Robinson was laughing accused of endangering the trial, already over, but it's never explained how and why.

It was explained exactly how and why in the article from the Independent that was linked to earlier. I also mentioned it several times.

 

Basically, his live streaming and the publicity surrounding it had come to the attention of the jury and the lawyers for the accused used his actions as the basis for filing a motion for the jury to be discharged. If successful, that would have meant either a mistrial or even the case being dismissed altogether.

 

Here's the link again, you can read for yourself, how and why he endangered the trial.

 

How close EDL founder came to collapsing trial

Edited July 7, 2019 by GroveHillWanderer

[KhaoYai]

1 hour ago, TopDeadSenter said:

And I despair of people that care more about drunk football hooligans letting off steam

Letting off steam?

[KhaoYai]

14 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

So whats the problem ?

The problem is people seeking to defend Tommy Robinson and his followers. One even saying that a criminal record like Robinson's shopping list is normal.

 

I'll give Robinson one thing, he knows how to manipulate the guilible.

Edited July 7, 2019 by KhaoYai

[sanemax]

3 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

The problem is people seeking to defend Tommy Robinson and his followers. One even saying that a criminal record like Robinson's shopping list is normal.

 

I'll give Robinson one thing, he knows how to manipulate the guilible.

My point was that most people would not have been prosecuted/ convicted for "mortgage fraud" when they only part they played was introducing mortgage customers to a mortgage broker who supplied fake payslips and that no money was stolen .  

  They merely got a mortgage using fake payslips , a mortgage laon which would have been paid back as normal .

No theft/attempted theft occurred  

[joecoolfrog]

For those of you who are not British ; Despite the picture painted by some on this forum , the likes of Tommy Robinson are only supported by a tiny percentage of the population. 

Far right parties have always been soundly thrashed in every general election in my lifetime , that will not change.

[Odysseus123]

10 minutes ago, Kevbo said:

Should've is an abbreviation of should have, to say should of in the vernacular (common in UK too) is different to writing it which indicates a juvenile disregard for the language.

As in "I should of given young Stevie a thorough spanking when he was a kid-but it's far too late now'"????

 

Can we get back on topic now?My syntaxes are killing me..

[joecoolfrog]

10 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

The problem is people seeking to defend Tommy Robinson and his followers. One even saying that a criminal record like Robinson's shopping list is normal.

 

I'll give Robinson one thing, he knows how to manipulate the guilible.

The gullible , the fascists and the racists , a holy trinity for sure.

[Orton Rd]

23 minutes ago, KhaoYai said:

Quite, Robinson's activities could actually have lead to the groomers being aquitted - I believe their defence counsel tried for that.  Robinson reported and posted videos despite being warned not to by the judge - clearly he learned nothing from his previous conviction for contempt.

How could they have been acquitted when already found guilty, and when was the last time a trial collapsed by somebody, and not just him, reporting the names in the street while one of the guilty threatened his mother when asked asked a simple question. This claim he could have collapsed the trial is a red herring, some are daft enough to believe.

[GroveHillWanderer]

3 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

How could they have been acquitted when already found guilty, and when was the last time a trial collapsed by somebody, and not just him, reporting the names in the street while one of the guilty threatened his mother when asked asked a simple question. This claim he could have collapsed the trial is a red herring, some are daft enough to believe.

That's just factually incorrect. His live streaming occurred while the jury was still deliberating and was the basis for a motion from the accused's lawyers to have the jury dismissed. Read the Independent article I (and at least one other) have linked to

[TopDeadSenter]

For the last time, and my last post on this thread. The livestream that all the fuss and lies are over is STILL available to view on Youtube. This is because it does not break any laws, nor is it contentious in any way shape or form(other than the atrocious threats of violence and appalling language by the rapers as they enter court). I again advise those saying Mr Robinson nearly caused the collapse of the trial to watch the whole video and educate yourself before repeating lies.

 

 

[joecoolfrog]

8 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

How could they have been acquitted when already found guilty, and when was the last time a trial collapsed by somebody, and not just him, reporting the names in the street while one of the guilty threatened his mother when asked asked a simple question. This claim he could have collapsed the trial is a red herring, some are daft enough to believe.

Absolute rubbish , the series of 3 linked trials were ongoing , Robinson even said so on his live stream.

[joecoolfrog]

1 minute ago, TopDeadSenter said:

For the last time, and my last post on this thread. The livestream that all the fuss and lies are over is STILL available to view on Youtube. This is because it does not break any laws, nor is it contentious in any way shape or form(other than the atrocious threats of violence and appalling language by the rapers as they enter court). I again advise those saying Mr Robinson nearly caused the collapse of the trial to watch the whole video and educate yourself before repeating lies.

 

 

He broke the law , which part of that are you struggling with ?

[TopDeadSenter]

1 minute ago, joecoolfrog said:

He broke the law , which part of that are you struggling with ?

He read the defendants names from a BBC article. He said nothing not already in the public domain. Show me where in the video he broke the law. Minute and second. Thanks.

[evadgib]

3 hours ago, KhaoYai said:

I despair of what's happening to people's thinking in my country, I really do. How anybody can support this man and people like him is beyond my comprehension.

I have looked very hard for the smoking gun that would enable me to place TR into the 'Far Right/Racist/Nazi' box being peddled by the establishment & supported by MSM but as yet haven't been able to find one.

 

These opinions mirror my own:

 

Edited July 7, 2019 by evadgib

[7by7]

I see the Yaxley-Lennon fans are out in force again.

 

His real, legal name is Stephen Yaxley-Lennon. Tommy Robinson is just one of his many aliases; he has never legally changed his name. In his many criminal convictions he has always been arrested, charged and convicted under his legal name; as is the law in the UK.

 

Before any fool tries to claim his arrests are a conspiracy against him, they started before he started his so called activism.

 

It is telling that his favourite alias, Tommy Robinson, is the name of a notorious, ultra violent football hooligan and one of the leaders of the Luton Town football hooligan gang called Men in gear during the 1980s and 1990s. A man the ex violent football hooligan Yaxley-Lennon seems to hero worship.

 

He has never been even remotely involved in exposing any peadophiles, individuals or gangs.

 

His antics such as this have only ever involved cases where the accused are Muslims. He has never protested about nor attempted to name white peadophiles; of whom there are plenty. These evil pervert belong to all races, all religions, all classes. But Yaxley-Lennon is only interested when they are Muslim. Yes, large scale grooming gangs are mostly Asian, mostly Muslim. But what about the wholesale sexual abuse of children in Christian children's homes, both historical and current? What has Yaxley-Lennon had to say about that? Nothing.

 

Yaxley-Lennon is a self publicist who is using the suffering of children to his own ends and his own financial gain through the fools who send him money via his website. 

 

In my view, that makes him as bad as the evil men who committed these crimes.

 

 

Edited July 7, 2019 by 7by7
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[7by7]

13 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

For the last time, and my last post on this thread. The livestream that all the fuss and lies are over is STILL available to view on Youtube. This is because it does not break any laws, nor is it contentious in any way shape or form(other than the atrocious threats of violence and appalling language by the rapers as they enter court). I again advise those saying Mr Robinson nearly caused the collapse of the trial to watch the whole video and educate yourself before repeating lies.

 

I can't speak for Thailand, but here in the UK it was taken down, and only put back up after the trial had finished.

 

Educate yourself

[7by7]

18 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

He read the defendants names from a BBC article. He said nothing not already in the public domain. Show me where in the video he broke the law. Minute and second. Thanks.

An article from before the reporting restriction order was issued, which was removed from the BBC website when that order was issued.

 

He broke the law when he ignored that order and read the defendants names out in a live steam.

 

Of course, as is always true in such cases no matter the race or religion of the defendants, once found guilty the media were able to, and did, publicise their names.

 

You and those others who support him should remember that these reporting restrictions are designed to prevent the collapse of trials and give the convicted possible grounds for a successful appeal.

 

Allowed to continue and at best your hero would have achieved is at best an expensive retrial, at worst the freedom of these vile, evil perverts.

 

Not that he cares, he got more free publicity and more fools to send him more money.

Edited July 7, 2019 by 7by7
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[luckyluke]

2 hours ago, TopDeadSenter said:

A nation that doesn't care about protecting it's most vulnerable citizens(children) is a nation that's moral compass is so out of whack that it doesn't deserve to remain as a nation.

Well after reading this, I must say it is not so bad being Belgian, European, member of the E.U..

 

[stevenl]

25 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

He read the defendants names from a BBC article. He said nothing not already in the public domain. Show me where in the video he broke the law. Minute and second. Thanks.

The whole video was a violation after the judge ordered 'no publicity'.

[evadgib]

8 minutes ago, luckyluke said:

Well after reading this, I must say it is not so bad being Belgian, European, member of the E.U..

Before 'Cock-a-doodle-dooing' in that direction you might like to recall where many recent terrorist attack/ers in mainland Europe started or found safe haven...

Edited July 7, 2019 by evadgib

[dick dasterdly]

1 hour ago, GroveHillWanderer said:

It was explained exactly how and why in the article from the Independent that was linked to earlier. I also mentioned it several times.

 

Basically, his live streaming and the publicity surrounding it had come to the attention of the jury and the lawyers for the accused used his actions as the basis for filing a motion for the jury to be discharged. If successful, that would have meant either a mistrial or even the case being dismissed altogether.

 

Here's the link again, you can read for yourself, how and why he endangered the trial.

 

How close EDL founder came to collapsing trial

Thank you for the link to the Independent article, that clearly states:-

 

“This is part two of the trial … "the jury are making their verdicts now,” Robinson correctly stated"

 

Consequently, it is hardly suprising that the judge rejected the defense desperate attempt to ask for a mistrial.

 

 

 

[joecoolfrog]

29 minutes ago, TopDeadSenter said:

He read the defendants names from a BBC article. He said nothing not already in the public domain. Show me where in the video he broke the law. Minute and second. Thanks.

The BBC took down the article in question when the reporting restrictions were imposed. Had they not done so they would also have been in breach.

Robinson ignored the reporting restrictions so was prosecuted , comprende ?

Also if Robinson is simply repeating information in the public domain how , as he claims , is he exposing anything !!!

The guy is a Charlatan who is laughing all the way to the bank by making mugs out of the bigoted idiots who follow him.