Mueller says Trump was not exonerated but Trump declares victory

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, Puchaiyank said:

The origins of this investigation will reveal the depth of political bias and corruption in the Obama FBI...

The origins are already known by all. It was Papa talking to Downer.

[OneMoreFarang]

5 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

Stay away! Stay away! If you get to say stupid twice I think saying stay away twice is fair dinkum.

Yon can tell it one time or 10 times or 100 times. You don't even have to tell me to stay away because I will stay away from the USA. There are too many crazy people over there and it seems they have the leader they deserve. 

MAGA - Yeah, that would be a great idea. Tell me, when was it great the last time? That must be a long time ago.

[Cryingdick]

2 minutes ago, OneMoreFarang said:

Yon can tell it one time or 10 times or 100 times. You don't even have to tell me to stay away because I will stay away from the USA. There are too many crazy people over there and it seems they have the leader they deserve. 

MAGA - Yeah, that would be a great idea. Tell me, when was it great the last time? That must be a long time ago.

We agree.

[Sujo]

I thought it was hilarious that they tried to make out that he applied for the fbi job and was turned down. 

 

He flat out shot that down in flames.

 

That guy just proved trump in another lie.

[Cryingdick]

Just now, Sujo said:

I thought it was hilarious that they tried to make out that he applied for the fbi job and was turned down. 

 

He flat out shot that down in flames.

 

That guy just proved trump in another lie.

 

Did he actually remember working for the FBI? He wasn't able to purview much and referred all questions back to the FBI.

[Issanman]

Devin Nunes lays out very clear history of this mess from beginning to end in less than 6 minutes:

 

 

[Rimmer]

An off topic post removed

[Sujo]

13 minutes ago, Cryingdick said:

 

Did he actually remember working for the FBI? He wasn't able to purview much and referred all questions back to the FBI.

Was he asked?

[Baerboxer]

5 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

"I can't speak to that," "I'm not going to get into that," and "It is beyond my purview."

 

Nothing new to see here...if you are in the impeachment camp, you have no new material...there was no evidence of "Trump" collusion with Russia...and not enough evidence to indict on obstruction.

 

This should be the final Democratic theatrical fiasco concerning the Trump campaign and Russia...and actually start to bring about much needed legislation to move the country forward.

 

Those involved in using false information in an attempt to overthrow an elected President should be very afraid...it will soon be your turn to be arrested!   ????

 

I doubt it will be the end. The so called "liberal left" hate people who don't knuckle down to their views and opinions with a vengeance reminiscent of the National Socialists and Soviets. They can't help themselves as their hatred is all consuming. They must destroy and cannot move on.

 

I hope you're right. I hope for once the right wing conservatives don't let those who used false information and have tried to twist information out of all meaning and sense off the hook for once.

[allen303]

But that’s not what Mueller meant. He was later forced to clarify his answer. explaining that he did not decide, one way or the other, whether Trump committed obstruction.

 

From two very liberal reporters from Internet Explorer. These two had to place this way down in the article after they gave all their left-wing opinions. They even had to admit their whole article was just their opinions. So, we know what they say about opinions and what they or like.

[BobBKK]

21 minutes ago, Sujo said:

I thought it was hilarious that they tried to make out that he applied for the fbi job and was turned down. 

 

He flat out shot that down in flames.

 

That guy just proved trump in another lie.

From a guy who could not remember Ronald Reagan?  and stuttered to remember Bush?   really?

[watcharacters]

3 hours ago, chessman said:

Trump claims exoneration, the Dems claim collusion and obstruction, the truth in somewhere in the middle and the world keeps turning.

 

The world keeps turning and the noose keeps tightening.

 

[allen303]

58 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Why should he be. That wasnt part of his investigation. Barr is looking into that.

Well if that’s the case, the investigation should have been over in six months. As soon as they found no coelution the investigation was over. Not going back 10 years about someone being an unregistered lobbyist or tax evasion.

[jb61]

Just prior to the 2016 election, CNN, MSNBC, et.al, were hilariously laughing and holding their sides while scoffing at Trump for running for president. Remember, she had a 97% chance of winning and he had a 7% chance of winning.

 

Whoops, then he wins. No problem, both Brennen and Clapper told CNN, MSNBC and all the parrots that Trump would be gone in 3 months. But, he wasn’t gone. No problem, they then said he’ll be gone in 6 months. But, he still wasn’t gone.

 

No problem. Now we’ve got Mueller, and he will bring Trump down without any problem. Now imagine, you’re a “hater” and your whole life is consumed with the downfall of Trump. You wake up every morning and turn on the news or get on the internet; thinking today could be the day that you read “Trump Indicted”. But, that day never comes. Every day is spent waiting for Mueller. You know Mueller is going to deliver the goods. But, Mueller doesn’t deliver the goods. Just imagine, he hires 17 Trump hating, Hillary supporting lawyers, and has the full force of the FBI, the CIA and the NSA and he can’t even find a “jay walking” offence against Trump.

 

Then, in a final “last gasping breath” effort, they force Mueller to testify and it falls flat like a muffled fart. But, the media falsely report that the DOJ told Mueller that he must restrict his testimony to only his report. However, when we dig deeper, we find out that it was Mueller’s request to the DOJ that they issue the letter to the house committee that restricts his testimony to save him from certain questions from the Repubs.   

 

Then in his finale, our hero gives an academy award winning performance as an old senile, doddering old age pensioner mumbling; “not sure what your question was, what page was that.

The haters have to be proud.

[Guitarzan]

5 hours ago, simple1 said:

 Trump supporters, as is trump, truly are the 'deplorables'

I resemble that remark!  Thanks. 

[Sujo]

48 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

From a guy who could not remember Ronald Reagan?  and stuttered to remember Bush?   really?

Well he is a republican

[Sujo]

28 minutes ago, allen303 said:

Well if that’s the case, the investigation should have been over in six months. As soon as they found no coelution the investigation was over. Not going back 10 years about someone being an unregistered lobbyist or tax evasion.

 

Werent u watching?

 

There was collusion. And obstruction of justice.

 

Yes it could have been over in 6 months if trump had cooperated. And his close aides kept finding themselves guilty.

[Guitarzan]

Thanks to Mueller, you are considered guilty until you exonerate yourself. The presumption of innocence no longer applies here in the USA. 

 

Such a pathetic political hit job,  

[BobBKK]

2 minutes ago, Sujo said:

Werent u watching?

 

There was collusion. And obstruction of justice.

 

Yes it could have been over in 6 months if trump had cooperated. And his close aides kept finding themselves guilty.

Ya we were watching this 'clarification'  from the afternoon session.... were you?

Mueller issues clarification, takes back bombshell statement about indicting Trump - Fox News.ts

[Magenta408]

Mueller's job was to investigate. He took millions of dollars from the Yankee taxpayers and he produced a report that I doubt he was even familiar with which makes me think he did not even write it. His job was to report. The judiciary will decide. Mueller should now shut up and get out of town. He's a dirty cop.

[atyclb]

6 hours ago, marcusarelus said:

6 hours ago, Tug said:

I watched the whole thing to me it unfolded exactly as I expected director muller of few words was taciturn factual and honest the dems factual respectfull questioning the republicans trying to spin and launch conspiracy’s so as per muller it’s not a witch hunt can’t indict a sitting potus but game on after 2020 the russans did interfere in our election pretty much what we knew before and a big slap down for Donald’s pet ag

I watched the whole thing too and Mueller seemed old and out of it and confused.  He should have been reading from a prompter.  I still don't know what the Russians did that actually interfered with the election.  Facebook stuff is not interfering - everyone knows that is not a reliable source and if you don't you shouldn't vote.  The Russians got charged with conspiracy to commit computer crimes - not committing crimes but conspiracy to commit.  That means they thought about doing something but didn't.  Big deal ho hum.  

 

agree. i thought the term dilapidated and or disheveled though in suit and tie. seemed to lack the level of acumen one would expect for such a so called seasoned expert attorney.

[atyclb]

6 hours ago, Thainesss said:

This kind of stuff is all over social media:

 

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/bob-mueller-struggling-democrats-don-t-get-their-trump-gotcha-n1034146?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

 

 

my poor democratic party would have been better served by hiring walt disney studios to "animate the mueller report"

[candide]

4 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

Exonerated is not a legal term. there are not ten counts of obstruction. For it to be a legal count would mean ten charges and there isn't one.

Hairs split.

The term exonerate and the one also used by Mueller (exculpate) are in every legal dictionary.

Anyway it's Trump who started claiming he was exonerated in the report. So you suggest that he uses a poor choice of words (on top of lying as the reports and Mueller stated that he was not exonerated or exculpate, whatever term you like more)... we know that already. ????

[simple1]

9 minutes ago, candide said:

Hairs split.

The term exonerate and the one also used by Mueller (exculpate) are in every legal dictionaries.

Anyway it's Trump who started claiming he was exonerated in the report. So you suggest that he uses a poor choice of words (on top of lying as the reports and Mueller stated that he was not exonerated or exculpate, whatever term you like more)... we know that already. ????

Ignore them, they're just members of the trump idiocracy.

 

https://time.com/4327424/idiocracy/

[Sujo]

1 hour ago, BobBKK said:

Ya we were watching this 'clarification'  from the afternoon session.... were you?

Mueller issues clarification, takes back bombshell statement about indicting Trump - Fox News.ts 8.57 MB · 1 download

The clarification was not about the multiple instances of collusion and obstruction.

 

It was that he could not even consider if there could be an indictment.

[FritsSikkink]

8 hours ago, Puchaiyank said:

"I can't speak to that," "I'm not going to get into that," and "It is beyond my purview."

 

Nothing new to see here...if you are in the impeachment camp, you have no new material...there was no evidence of "Trump" collusion with Russia...and not enough evidence to indict on obstruction.

 

This should be the final Democratic theatrical fiasco concerning the Trump campaign and Russia...and actually start to bring about much needed legislation to move the country forward.

 

Those involved in using false information in an attempt to overthrow an elected President should be very afraid...it will soon be your turn to be arrested!   ????

Mueller did reiterate that his investigation did not exonerate the president on obstruction of justice. He also dismissed Trump's claims that the investigation was a "witch hunt" and that Russian interference was a "hoax."  _{https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cummings-implores-american-people-to-pay-attention-to-whats-going-on-after-mueller-testimony/ar-AAEOxtw?ocid=spartanntp}

[BobBKK]

34 minutes ago, Sujo said:

The clarification was not about the multiple instances of collusion and obstruction.

 

It was that he could not even consider if there could be an indictment.

No it wasn't.  It was 'we did not consider obstruction' not about the rules said we 'could not' ERGO 'we don't know'

[BobBKK]

19 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Mueller did reiterate that his investigation did not exonerate the president on obstruction of justice. He also dismissed Trump's claims that the investigation was a "witch hunt" and that Russian interference was a "hoax."  _{https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cummings-implores-american-people-to-pay-attention-to-whats-going-on-after-mueller-testimony/ar-AAEOxtw?ocid=spartanntp}

Muller reiterated they did not 'consider obstruction' not because of rules... it was not considered so all the noise is DEFLECTION as the report was about Russia Collusion (there was none). 

[FritsSikkink]

3 minutes ago, BobBKK said:

Muller reiterated they did not 'consider obstruction' not because of rules... it was not considered so all the noise is DEFLECTION as the report was about Russia Collusion (there was none). 

Nonsense, troll story

[Thainesss]

4 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

Nonsense, troll story

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MSNBC legal analyst Ari Melber was less sure about the meaning of the exchange.

 

"Lieu's suggestion is along the lines that 'a crime was found but could not be charged.' But that’s not what the report says. So there may be further debate about what Mueller meant by his reply to Lieu," Melber wrote.

 

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In Mueller's opening statement that came later before the House Intelligence Committee, the former special counsel said he wanted to "correct the record" on his exchange with Lieu.

 

"That's not the correct way to say it," Mueller said. "We did not reach a determination as to whether the president committed a crime."

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/did-mueller-mean-trump-could-be-indicted-when-he-leaves-n1033901