UK PM Johnson tells EU: ditch backstop or face no-deal Brexit

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, Jip99 said:

 

 

Sounds not too dissimilar to Thailand........ ?

I didn't want to mention it!

[sandyf]

On 7/29/2019 at 7:24 PM, billd766 said:

The problem is that that when a Minister changes or is changed policies also change and people do as well.

The post was about comments made by Boris Johnson when he was Foreign Secretary, resigning the post does not retract the rhetoric.

As much as he would like to, you cannot unring the bell.

[sandyf]

22 hours ago, billd766 said:

Actually it was a simple question, as you keep knocking the British motor industry while in truth the Netherlands is just a contractor for other countries.

Little doubt it is a valid comment, the UK however was a world leader in the motor industry but I doubt the same could be said of the Netherlands. You probably remember as well as I do the old Dutch DAFs, not the greatest of vehicles.

[sandyf]

On 7/29/2019 at 3:16 PM, Bluespunk said:

Eire has the EU in its corner, as the current backstop arrangement in the exit deal the uk negotiated shows. 

 

It was the govt of Eire who raised the issue of the consequences of brexit on the Good Friday Agreement with the other eu govts after the referendum. 

Eire has had the EU in its corner for the last 21 years, both in the talks and in funding the Peace Process, something that many would choose to ignore.

 

The Good Friday Agreement would never have happened without the European Union, a former US senator who helped broker the deal has said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-42412972

 

The Belfast/Good Friday Agreement and the EU

Since before the referendum, there have been consistent warnings that the decision to leave the EU risks destabilising the peace process in Northern Ireland. The susceptibility of the peace process to disruption during and after the Brexit process has also been emphasised by people working in business and industry, who understand that the growth and success of Northern Ireland’s economy is closely linked to the peace settlement. In a place where the border has been a source of tension, the prospect of any changes to the current stability has been an issue which has caused consternation for our members and has been raised by participants in our workshops. Despite these concerns, there have been attempts to dismiss apprehensions about the significance of Brexit to the stability of the Belfast/Good Friday Agreement and the wider peace settlement in Northern Ireland by downplaying the role the EU played in underpinning both processes. Those dismissing such concerns have emphasised that the EU is only explicitly mentioned in passing in the Agreement, rather than as a core principle underpinning the institutions. However this interpretation is to misunderstand the significance of these references.

http://www.humanrightsconsortium.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/RIGHTS-AT-RISK-Final.pdf

[sandyf]

17 hours ago, citybiker said:

Vauxhall is PSA (aka French owned & currently blackmailing HMG) will do what it’s shareholders tell them.

 

Most companies will pay attention to the shareholders.

The Japanese shareholders have been complaining about the reduction in profits for some time and they also want to leave.

[sandyf]

On 7/29/2019 at 10:50 PM, citybiker said:

With the DUP & it's C&S arrangement im sure identity isn't forgotten.
 

It may come as a surprise to you but the DUP have little interest in anything the nationalists have to say, you probably think that Stormont is in recess.

Feel free to believe that Boris has the magic wand.

[sandyf]

On 7/29/2019 at 10:50 PM, citybiker said:

Boris is different leader & kettle of fish, along with Dominic Rabb Brussels better get it's negotiating head on or Germany's BGA will demand EU heads to roll. Simply sitting back & refusing to renegotiate is an unwise tactic.
 

All going to plan I see.

 

Boris Johnson’s efforts to renegotiate Theresa May’s failed EU withdrawal agreement appear to be running into the sand, after Irish prime minister Leo Varadkar delivered a firm rebuff to his demand to ditch the controversial backstop.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-boris-johnson-backstop-ireland-deal-border-varadkar-eu-latest-a9027251.html

[citybiker]

Meanwhile.....

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[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, citybiker said:

Meanwhile.....

 

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Read the comments below the tweet before presenting it here as something of any real relevance. 

[citybiker]

Read the comments below the tweet before presenting it here as something of any real relevance. 

Already read, thanks.

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[billd766]

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

Little doubt it is a valid comment, the UK however was a world leader in the motor industry but I doubt the same could be said of the Netherlands. You probably remember as well as I do the old Dutch DAFs, not the greatest of vehicles.

My wife used to have 3. 2 were runners and 1 was a christmas tree for the other 2. Great little cars they were too.

[stevenl]

3 hours ago, sandyf said:

Little doubt it is a valid comment, the UK however was a world leader in the motor industry but I doubt the same could be said of the Netherlands. You probably remember as well as I do the old Dutch DAFs, not the greatest of vehicles.

Variomatic conquered the world.

[bomber]

4 hours ago, Nigel Garvie said:

I didn't want to mention it!

the thai crawlers on here wouldnt be best suited.

[3NUMBAS]

all car makers are quickly tooling up for electric and hybrid as the cliff edge for combustion engines approaches fast ..so doesnt make any difference for the present big names who face wipeout on gas and diesel motors in not many years ..

[beautifulthailand99]

6 hours ago, 3NUMBAS said:

all car makers are quickly tooling up for electric and hybrid as the cliff edge for combustion engines approaches fast ..so doesnt make any difference for the present big names who face wipeout on gas and diesel motors in not many years ..

"Anything but Brexit - Project Thick as Mince". 

[Loiner]

"Anything but Brexit - Project Thick as Mince". 

You seem to be winning that one, apart from the Brexit bit.

[beautifulthailand99]

27 minutes ago, Loiner said:

You seem to be winning that one, apart from the Brexit bit.

I thought you had me on ignore ?

[sandyf]

13 hours ago, stevenl said:

Variomatic conquered the world.

Thanks, couldn't quite remember the name for their transmission, quite revolutionary in its day but not without problems.

[sandyf]

16 hours ago, citybiker said:

Meanwhile.....

Trump, however, would not be able to push an agreement through a hostile Congress, where there would be strong bipartisan opposition to any UK trade deal in the event of a threat to the 1998 Good Friday agreement, and to the open border between Northern Ireland and the Republic.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jul/31/brexit-mess-with-good-friday-and-well-block-uk-trade-deal-us-politicians-warn?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

[billd766]

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

Variomatic conquered the world.

One of my wife's Daf's had a drive belt break on me. There was a loud bang and the car went slower, but it still got me back home.

[Loiner]

I thought you had me on ignore ?

Not me. I ought to do though, if only to filter out some more of the nonsense.

[vogie]

15 minutes ago, Loiner said:

Not me. I ought to do though, if only to filter out some more of the nonsense.

No that was me that has him on ignore, his mate Citizen Smith could be next.????????????