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Suspected Islamists kill at least 65 in northeast Nigeria - state TV

 

FILE PHOTO - Nigerian President Muhammadu Buhari takes the oath of office during his inauguration for a second term in Abuja, Nigeria, May 29, 2019. REUTERS/Afolabi Sotunde

 

MAIDUGURI, Nigeria (Reuters) - At least 65 people died in an attack by suspected Islamists on a group returning from a funeral in Nigeria's northeastern Borno region, state television reported on Sunday, one of the deadliest attacks on civilians in recent years.

 

There was no immediate claim of responsibility, but the Boko Haram group and rival Islamic State in West Africa (ISWA) splinter group have often carried out attacks in the area.

 

Local government chairman Mohammed Bulama was quoted as saying on state television that the assailants killed 21 people returning from the funeral on Saturday and another 44 people when they tried to regroup to defend themselves.

 

Others were injured, he said, meaning the death toll may rise.

 

President Muhammadu Buhari on Sunday condemned the attack and directed the military to hunt down the perpetrators, a statement from the presidential office said.

 

Borno state is the epicentre of the Boko Haram and ISWA insurgency. The conflict has lasted a decade, during which time the militants have killed thousands and millions have fled from their homes in the region.

 

Resident Bakura Mallam Amadu said he saw the insurgents gather before firing on the funeral attendees. A security source said Islamists attacked on motorbikes and in vans.

 

Nigeria's military declined to comment.

 

Buhari won a second term in February promising to improve security in Nigeria.

 

Nigeria's government says Boko Haram and ISWA have been largely defeated and driven out of territory they once held, but they continue to attack both civilian and military targets.

 

(Reporting by Maiduguri newsroom; Additional reporting by Felix Onuah in Abuja; Writing by Chijioke Ohuocha; Editing by Dale Hudson, Andrew Cawthorne and Sonya Hepinstall)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-07-29

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[sunnyboy2018]

More from the religion of peace. The religion that never stops giving.

[wisperone]

So why don't all the countries of Africa get together and surround Borno state and start working their way towards the center and eliminating these groups. Start defending yourselves from these murderers. Or do nothing and let them continue with their terrorism.

[metisdead]

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[billmichael]

4 hours ago, wisperone said:

So why don't all the countries of Africa get together and surround Borno state and start working their way towards the center and eliminating these groups. Start defending yourselves from these murderers. Or do nothing and let them continue with their terrorism.

Because they are impossibly backwards and unable to get together on anything...???

[Catoni]

Hmmmm.   Well, they’re at it again. Never stops. The religion of peace and compassion. “According to the Koran, a non-Muslim is less than nothing: "To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" (Sura 8:55). That is why it is necessary to Islamize them by force and by humiliation.

   Sadly, it will never end. 

That’s why I became Buddhist. 

 

Edited July 29, 2019 by Catoni
Correction

[transam]

4 minutes ago, Catoni said:

Hmmmm.   Well, they’re at it again. Never stops. The religion of peace and compassion. “According to the Koran, a non-Muslim is less than nothing: "To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" (Sura 8:55). That is why it is necessary to Islamize them by force and by humiliation.

   Sadly, it will never end. 

That’s why I became Buddhist. 

 

"Sadly it will never end".....

 

That's why I have nothing to do with religion....Full Stop.....

[simple1]

5 hours ago, wisperone said:

So why don't all the countries of Africa get together and surround Borno state and start working their way towards the center and eliminating these groups. Start defending yourselves from these murderers. Or do nothing and let them continue with their terrorism.

Borno State is mixed Christian and Muslim population, OP doesn't state the religion of the victims. Islamist murderers kill other Muslims if they don't subscribe to their ideology. Borno State is not the only area of operations for Boko Haram / Islamic State in Africa. The US stopped supporting the Nigerian military due to human rights abuses of civilians, don't know if this is still the case. Corruption both within the military and politicians doesn't help with the will to fight. 

Edited July 29, 2019 by simple1

[pegman]

UN peace corps should be sorting this sort of thing out. 

[Orton Rd]

16 minutes ago, simple1 said:

Borno State is mixed Christian and Muslim population, OP doesn't state the religion of the victims. Islamist murderers kill other Muslims if they don't subscribe to their ideology. Borno State is not the only area of operations for Boko Haram / Islamic State in Africa. The US stopped supporting the Nigerian military due to human rights abuses of civilians, don't know if this is still the case. Corruption both within the military and politicians doesn't help with the will to fight. 

Quite right Islamist Jihadists do not differentiate in the slaughter of innocents deemed trouble makers or non believers and to be fair they are only being good Muslims as they see it following the teaching of the Quran. Pointing the finger at corruption as some sort of excuse for killing in the name of Allah seems rather desperate.

[Sujo]

8 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Quite right Islamist Jihadists do not differentiate in the slaughter of innocents deemed trouble makers or non believers and to be fair they are only being good Muslims as they see it following the teaching of the Quran. Pointing the finger at corruption as some sort of excuse for killing in the name of Allah seems rather desperate.

The vast majority of muslims do not consider terrorists to be good muslims and fo not consider them to follow the koran.

 

If that was the case there would be a hell of a lot more attacks.

[simple1]

2 minutes ago, Orton Rd said:

Quite right Islamist Jihadists do not differentiate in the slaughter of innocents deemed trouble makers or non believers and to be fair they are only being good Muslims as they see it following the teaching of the Quran. Pointing the finger at corruption as some sort of excuse for killing in the name of Allah seems rather desperate.

The Koran does not advocate the murder of innocents. BTW don't bother to quote passages out of context. You have made it very clear where you get your info, from far right propaganda outlets, likely where you learnt to falsify social media posts, plus it's contrary to forum rules.

[Catoni]

2 hours ago, transam said:

"Sadly it will never end".....

 

That's why I have nothing to do with religion....Full Stop.....

Nothing wrong with most religions, as long as they are not extremist fundamentalists that believe in forcing it on others with guns, knives, bombs, suicide attacks et cetera. 

    Theravada Buddhism is also more of a way of life... philosophy...than it is religion. Buddha was not a military leader, or killer. He never claimed to be a god, the son of a god, or prophet of a god. He was just a good man. A teacher. A man who had good things to teach. 

[sammieuk1]

Allah works in mysterious ways sometimes with an AK47 other times a transit van????

[transam]

1 hour ago, Catoni said:

Nothing wrong with most religions, as long as they are not extremist fundamentalists that believe in forcing it on others with guns, knives, bombs, suicide attacks et cetera. 

    Theravada Buddhism is also more of a way of life... philosophy...than it is religion. Buddha was not a military leader, or killer. He never claimed to be a god, the son of a god, or prophet of a god. He was just a good man. A teacher. A man who had good things to teach. 

But does that work in Buddhist countries....? The rituals are there but is the rest..

[Scott]

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[Catoni]

16 hours ago, transam said:

But does that work in Buddhist countries....? The rituals are there but is the rest..

It's up to each individual.  It's not countries that become Buddhist or not.  It's what's in our own individual hearts and minds whether we are followers of the Dhamma Vinaya or not. 

[Catoni]

19 hours ago, pegman said:

UN peace corps should be sorting this sort of thing out. 

Good luck with that.  The U.N. puts some of the worst human rights violators on the Human Rights Council to accuse countries like Canada of treating their indigenous people horribly and orders them to treat their indigenous people better.  It's crazy ! ! 

The U.N. is a disgrace.... and a waste of money.  

[Galactus]

On 7/29/2019 at 11:08 AM, Catoni said:

Hmmmm.   Well, they’re at it again. Never stops. The religion of peace and compassion. “According to the Koran, a non-Muslim is less than nothing: "To Allah, there are no animals viler than those who do not believe and remain unbelievers" (Sura 8:55). That is why it is necessary to Islamize them by force and by humiliation.

   Sadly, it will never end. 

That’s why I became Buddhist. 

 

you can find same rhetoric in every holy book. not only in quran.

and most of quran is wrongly believed and interpreted, like you did, by religious ranters who would like to hold religion as a power, like wahhabis, Saudi Arabia.

so do you think Christians or Buddhist are peaceful?

Just recent hardline Buddhists (buddhist version of jihadists) massacred, raped and displaced millions of muslim in Myanmar in a clear case of genocide.

 

i m hoping all religions out of this world and all jihadist muslim idiots (and their counterparts in other religions) to drown in their own blood.

[xylophone]

21 minutes ago, Galactus said:

and most of quran is wrongly believed and interpreted

Islamists and Islamist extremists will continue their slaughter not only in Nigeria but elsewhere because it is written so........

 

Below are a number of actual passages or words from the Quran, not interpretations, but as they are written and I find it extremely difficult to support the argument that Islam is a religion of peace given that there are many, many more like this.

 

Actual passages from the Quran…..

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.

 

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions."

 

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers).

 

HARDLY A RELIGION OF PEACE by anyone's standards or imagination.

 

[Rimmer]

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[Catoni]

5 hours ago, Galactus said:

you can find same rhetoric in every holy book. not only in quran.

and most of quran is wrongly believed and interpreted, like you did, by religious ranters who would like to hold religion as a power, like wahhabis, Saudi Arabia.

so do you think Christians or Buddhist are peaceful?

Just recently, hardline Buddhists (buddhist version of jihadists) massacred, raped and displaced millions of muslim in Myanmar in a clear case of genocide.

so, maybe you should quit being a buddhist too then?

 

i m hoping all religions out of this world and all jihadist muslim idiots (and their counterparts in other religions) to drown in their own blood.

The very first Precept for Buddhists is a prohibition against killing of sentient beings, human and animal. 

    Any “Buddhists” in Myanmar that kill are not Buddhist in their heart and mind. And I would bet there is a lot of Muslims killing Buddhists and destroying Buddhist temples in Myanmar...with the leftist western press ignoring it. 

  To be quite honest, if I had to bet my next paycheck on who is much more likely to kill...a Muslim or a Buddhist....I would feel that my money would be much safer betting that the Muslim is much more likely to kill. And the Buddhist much less likely to kill. 

   I challenge you to find even one teaching in the Tripitaka that tells us to kill other people of other faiths. 

   Just one! 

  Please hurry back with your evidence of Buddhism teaching us to other people. 

   Meanwhile, you can find all kinds of Islam teachings calling on Muslims to torture and kill. Have you noticed Muslims killing innocent people in the last twenty years or so? 

   Perhaps you’ve seen on the news over the years of Muslims killing innocent people. 

I’ve seen plenty of evidence of Muslims killing Christians and Buddhists, and destroying Buddhist temples. Including the ancient Buddha’s of Bamiyan, and the destruction of ancient Palmyra (although Palmyra was not Buddhist, it was an ancient historical city.) 

 Muslims have been killing Buddhists and destroying Buddhist temples since the Muslim invasion of northern India when they slaughtered Buddhist monks and nuns and destroyed temples and destroyed the great Buddhist university and monastic center of Nalanda about the year 1200. Buddhism in India has still to this day not recovered from that great horror. 

  

Edited July 30, 2019 by Catoni
Correction

[Sujo]

7 hours ago, xylophone said:

Islamists and Islamist extremists will continue their slaughter not only in Nigeria but elsewhere because it is written so........

 

Below are a number of actual passages or words from the Quran, not interpretations, but as they are written and I find it extremely difficult to support the argument that Islam is a religion of peace given that there are many, many more like this.

 

Actual passages from the Quran…..

 

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

 

Quran (5:33) - "The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His messenger and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement"

 

Quran (3:151) - "Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority".

 

Quran (3:56) - "As to those who reject faith, I will punish them with terrible agony in this world and in the Hereafter, nor will they have anyone to help."

 

Quran (2:216) - "Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knoweth, and ye know not."

 

Quran (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks."

 

Quran (9:5) - "So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.

 

Quran (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

 

Quran (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued." "People of the Book" refers to Christians and Jews. According to this verse, they are to be violently subjugated, with the sole justification being their religious status. Verse 9:33 tells Muslims that Allah has charted them to make Islam "superior over all religions."

 

Quran (2:191-193) - "And kill them wherever you find them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out. And Al-Fitnah [disbelief or unrest] is worse than killing... but if they desist, then lo! Allah is forgiving and merciful. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah [disbelief and worshipping of others along with Allah] and worship is for Allah alone. But if they cease, let there be no transgression except against Az-Zalimun(the polytheists, and wrong-doers).

 

HARDLY A RELIGION OF PEACE by anyone's standards or imagination.

 

it is well known you font take the koran or bible literally. You consider the concept of it as a whole. The bible has lots of bad things in it.

 

One is taught the beliefs, not to be read as stated.

 

I parked my bike in KL one night and upon return found a koran left on it. My gf who is muslim was with me for a couple of beers. She saw it, looked at the first page and said it was a fake. Seems there are some handing out fake korans to try and get some to be hardliners.

[Sujo]

Saw a good vid one day of a bible wrapped in a koran cover. The interviewer started quoting it and people were digusted.

 

 

There are many vids like this

Edited July 30, 2019 by Sujo

[apophyss]

19 minutes ago, Sujo said:

it is well known you font take the koran or bible literally.

But only MUSLIM people read THEIR BOOK literally.

 

They learn it to memory all.

At school, they learn it all, before other things like mathematic...

 

So when you have this (war) book in your mind when your baby,

what will happen after ?

[lungbing]

Notice that it wasn't Muslims who committed the atrocity, it was Islamists.  The press only uses the word 'Muslims' when they are being portrayed as victims.

[JemJem]

Nigerian government doesn't seem to be doing a good job at all in fighting Islamist terror. Will this change in the future ? It is very hard to be optimistic about it.

[Scott]

Troll post removed.  Also, post violating Fair Use policy.

 

 

[Catoni]

On 7/29/2019 at 1:53 AM, Sujo said:

The vast majority of muslims do not consider terrorists to be good muslims and fo not consider them to follow the koran.

 

If that was the case there would be a hell of a lot more attacks.

   And yet.... you do not see them protesting against Islamist terrorist attacks.....  They keep quiet. 

 Here is a mosque in peaceful, friendly Toronto, Canada...where the regular prayer calls for death of all Christians and Jews and other infidel disbelievers.. 

    https://youtu.be/13WTFjcZWes

 

[Guitarzan]

On 7/28/2019 at 11:53 PM, Sujo said:

The vast majority of muslims do not consider terrorists to be good muslims and fo not consider them to follow the koran.

 

If that was the case there would be a hell of a lot more attacks.

That may be true.  However, from my experience with Muslims and some whom I consider friends will not speak out against other Muslims in general,  due to peer pressure and loosing face in the Muslim community