JRG23 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Hello. I am from the UK. Aged 51. I am married with kids, and have been living here on marriage-based visa extensions for about 10 years. There is a possibility I will be offered a job by a US company that has an subsidiary/office here in Bangkok. It will be a staff position and I will require a work permit. Thing is, I don't have a degree. Will that be a problem in obtaining the work permit? Thank you for any knowledgable posts. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgdanson Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Ask the company you will work for. To take on a 7-11 franchise a degree in business is needed ! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Of course not. If the company believes you can do the job they will give it to you and apply for the work permit on your behalf. If immigration/labour dept. is picky they may ask for documented proof of related work experience but not necessarily. Remember you cannot refuse a job until it has been offered. Edited August 1, 2019 by VocalNeal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG23 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, VocalNeal said: Of course not. If the company believes you can do the job they will give it to you and apply for the work permit on your behalf once you get here. Thank you. I am living here in Bangkok already. Would that create a problem. Sorry, just trying to make sure I can foresee any potential pitfalls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhys Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 Let the HR department work their network.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG23 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 So technically is a degree required in order to obtain a work permit? Still not clear about that. Any info would be great. Oh, and this job offer is not teaching. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, JRG23 said: So technically is a degree required in order to obtain a work permit? No. Many clever people who earn good money don't have degrees. If it makes you feel better the Technical Director of the European Space Program doesn't have a degree. Or his predecessor didn't unless he still works there. It was a while ago. Edited August 1, 2019 by VocalNeal Thought OP understood the original statement 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ubonjoe Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, JRG23 said: So technically is a degree required in order to obtain a work permit? No it is not a requirement to get a work permit. A degree is only needed if you job requires one. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ubonjoe Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 minute ago, VocalNeal said: Correct. Not it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG23 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 I have extensive work experience in the job I will be asked to do. And I have some qualifications in the job area I will be asked to do. Just no degree. Seems to be contrasting opinions about this. But noting ubonjoe's responses. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, ubonjoe said: Not it is not. Yep. I thought he understood my original statement. First coffee not kicked in yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post VocalNeal Posted August 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, JRG23 said: Seems to be contrasting opinions about this. But noting ubonjoe's responses. Thank you. Well at least two people have told you no you don't need a degree. Are you sure you are clever enough for the job???? Edited August 1, 2019 by VocalNeal 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG23 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 2 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: Well at least two people have told you no you don't need a degree. Are you sure you are clever enough for the job???? LOL! Good question. We will see! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobBKK Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 10 minutes ago, VocalNeal said: No. Many clever people who earn good money don't have degrees. If it makes you feel better the Technical Director of the European Space Program doesn't have a degree. Or his predecessor didn't unless he still works there. It was a while ago. People who have no degree always say this stuff. It isn't necessary in some cases but is essential in others. It shows focus and commitment at the very least. In the OP case he doesn't need one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 I have two friends who work in finance here who don't have degrees. They left school early and grew up in the industry. They don't need one by law for their job. Their boss is foreign and employed them because he wanted to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 There is certainly no requirement for a degree to get a Work Permit (except for teaching). You may be asked by immigration or labour to confirm your qualifications, but this is just a form to fill and sign, no proof asked. In the last 20 years I've been asked for my degree exactly once and that was by a potential employer. Waay, back when I was at uni it was oft stated that the degree gets you your first job, after that it's experience, reputation and networking. Still true today. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suradit69 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 hours ago, VocalNeal said: No. Many clever people who earn good money don't have degrees. If it makes you feel better the Technical Director of the European Space Program doesn't have a degree. Or his predecessor didn't unless he still works there. It was a while ago. What does this have to do with getting a work permit in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VocalNeal Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 No = Answering the question. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elviajero Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 6 hours ago, JRG23 said: I have extensive work experience in the job I will be asked to do. And I have some qualifications in the job area I will be asked to do. Just no degree. Seems to be contrasting opinions about this. But noting ubonjoe's responses. Thank you. That is all that matters. When you apply for the WP you have to lay out your work experience etc to justify your suitability for the position. You don’t need a degree unless the job (employer) requires one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRG23 Posted August 1, 2019 Author Share Posted August 1, 2019 This is the OP. Thanks for all responses. Much appreciated. Mind at rest about this issue, at least! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaidaddy Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 No degree required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightSky Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 8 hours ago, JRG23 said: I have extensive work experience in the job I will be asked to do. And I have some qualifications in the job area I will be asked to do. Just no degree. Seems to be contrasting opinions about this. But noting ubonjoe's responses. Thank you. A degree is a requirement of the employer not the labor department so if your employer is happy all is well. I have a work permit and I didn't complete a degree only partial so I don't have the paper. When you get the job could you refer me please to a position as I would like a job too, thanks. ???? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Classic Ray Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 It is important to note that if a Thai person could potentially do your job, eg HR or similar, or it is a job reserved for Thais, eg civil engineer, they may refuse a work permit whether you have a degree or not. I have no degree, my first job in Thailand in 2008 my employer got me a work permit for my special experience and knowledge. Since then I have married a Thai and we have formed a consulting company. She is the managing director and employs me. We had to have some declared share capital and fill out a form, which an agent helped me to process with the Labour Dept to get a work permit. We then rent out my company's services, which I supply. Many consultants use this method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain 776 Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 No. There is no connection. If the company hired u. They get your WP. Immigration doesnt know or care if u have a degree or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elcaro Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 For work permit a degree was needed. But not university, if you have any kind of school certificate it is enough. What the company requires is up to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffshoreMig Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) Document your experience. It is up to your employer to get you the WP they will have to argue their case to the department of Labor that you are the one best suited for the job. If need be they can/should engage a lawyer to assist you. I am not sure. I am not an expert in Thai law. I was informed that the rules related to work had changed recently if you hold a "marriage" visa. Again I am not sure. In any event it is your employer that is responsible for your work permit. Edited August 1, 2019 by OffshoreMig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, JRG23 said: So technically is a degree required in order to obtain a work permit? Still not clear about that. Any info would be great. Oh, and this job offer is not teaching. Thanks. A degree is needed for people who want to start teaching. You don't need a degree if the company doesn't want to see one. If a company hires you they have to provide all necessary documents for you to apply for a work permit. Edited August 1, 2019 by Isaanbiker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, OffshoreMig said: Document your experience. It is up to your employer to get you the WP they will have to argue their case to the department of Labor that you are the one best suited for the job. If need be they can/should engage a lawyer to assist you. I am not sure. I am not an expert in Thai law. I was informed that the rules related to work had changed recently if you hold a "marriage" visa. Again I am not sure. In any event it is your employer that is responsible for your work permit. The rules haven't changed and you can either work on a Non-B, or a Non- O based on marriage to a Thai. Totally legal to work on a Non-O and you're not losing your visa if something goes wrong with the job. Nobody has to argue that the OP is the best guy for this job. It's a pretty easy and straightforward process. Why would anybody need to pay for a lawyer? There's no need for one. Edited August 1, 2019 by Isaanbiker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 1 hour ago, elcaro said: For work permit a degree was needed. But not university, if you have any kind of school certificate it is enough. What the company requires is up to them. There's no degree needed for a work permit in Thailand if the company doesn't want one. What do you mean with any kind of school certificate? Don't you think you're irritating the OP a bit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaanbiker Posted August 1, 2019 Share Posted August 1, 2019 3 hours ago, Captain 776 said: No. There is no connection. If the company hired u. They get your WP. Immigration doesnt know or care if u have a degree or not Times are changing. Immigration had started to check degrees of teachers, as well as provisional teacher's licenses and more. One IO even went online to check on the Teacher's Council of Thailand's website if my provisional TL was real. They do know more about you than you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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