Pheu Thai proposes a people’s assembly to draft a new Constitution

[webfact]

Pheu Thai proposes a people’s assembly to draft a new Constitution

 

 

The opposition Pheu Thai party has proposed the setting up of a 200-member people’s assembly, or Constitution Drafting Assembly, to draft a new Constitution. The existing one has been criticized as problematic, rigid and difficult to amend.

 

Dr. Pokin Palakul, a member of the party’s strategic committee, told the media today that there are two options for writing a new charter. One is to be initiated by the cabinet and the other is to be initiated by a group representing the people of the country.

 

He said the party prefers the second option, namely to establish a people’s assembly of 200 members to be elected from every province, proportional to its population. Then a 29-member Constitution Drafting Committee will be formed, with 15 of them to be elected from the 200 assemblymen, five chosen from among legal experts, five from the field of political science and four people well versed in national administration, he added.

 

Full story: https://www.thaipbsworld.com/pheu-thai-proposes-a-peoples-assembly-to-draft-a-new-constitution/

 

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[BobBKK]

Symbolic I guess. 

[YetAnother]

55 minutes ago, webfact said:

The opposition Pheu Thai party has proposed the setting up of a 200-member people’s assembly, or Constitution Drafting Assembly, to draft a new Constitution. The existing one has been criticized as problematic, rigid and difficult to amend.

do those people have any idea where they/we live and how we got here ?

[davehowden]

Dreamers !

 

[Lungstib]

A peoples assembly. Known in most democratic countries as parliament. A place where the people elected leaders gather in order to discuss whats best for the people and the country. But not in Thailand.

[Thailand]

Good luck with that. Still a military government with just another name.

[smedly]

5 hours ago, webfact said:

The existing one has been criticized as problematic, rigid and difficult to amend.

that is exactly how it should be

 

and to be clear - I am not saying I agree or disagree with the current one

 

there are very obviously issues around elections - Senate selection and PM appointment

Edited August 7, 2019 by smedly

[MaxLee]

4 hours ago, davehowden said:

Dreamers !

 

Anti influencers, stating the obvious with a hidden agenda themselves

[Eric Loh]

Not unprecedented #1997. 

[worgeordie]

Not another constitution,Thailand seems to get a new one

every few years,20,I don't know if that includes the last one

 regards Worgeordie

[Misterwhisper]

Funny. I always thought that parliament actually WAS the people's assembly. In other countries, that is, but apparently not in Thailand. 

[AgMech Cowboy]

Phue Thai leaders just have not learned their lesson. The first thing they try to do is rewrite the constitution in their favor.  It didn't work out well last time and it won't work out well this time.  They should work with it for a year or two and then start changing the current one.  Then they might get more cooperation and backing... IMHO.

[Misterwhisper]

Some people collect stamps, antique coins, or porcelain dolls. Thailand collects constitutions. Not exactly the ideal way to make the world community believe what FM Don Pramudwinai ignorantly bleated out at the recent ASEAN foreign ministers' summit, namely that Thailand "always has been a democracy".  

[Percy P]

7 hours ago, YetAnother said:

do those people have any idea where they/we live and how we got here ?

Somethings are worth the travel and this is one.

[Percy P]

7 hours ago, YetAnother said:

do those people have any idea where they/we live and how we got here ?

Some things are worth the travel and this is definitely one.

[Percy P]

Perhaps the new constitution draft will include a Section on noise as noise is getting out of hand.

[Percy P]

7 hours ago, YetAnother said:

do those people have any idea where they/we live and how we got here ?

It's not an every day assembly.

[Percy P]

2 hours ago, AgMech Cowboy said:

Phue Thai leaders just have not learned their lesson. The first thing they try to do is rewrite the constitution in their favor.  It didn't work out well last time and it won't work out well this time.  They should work with it for a year or two and then start changing the current one.  Then they might get more cooperation and backing... IMHO.

The public have a vote on the final drafting. Except of reject.

[candide]

8 hours ago, YetAnother said:

do those people have any idea where they/we live and how we got here ?

Of course they know. It's a way to keep on challenging the legitimacy of the current government.

[londonthai]

They would never get the democratic one, like this from 1997. So why bother wasting time and energy. 

Just push for a referendum: do you want the constitution as it is or reverse to 1997 one?

very simple and guarantees fast and good result

[Srikcir]

On 8/7/2019 at 5:12 PM, londonthai said:

Just push for a referendum

Push at whom?

Senate, majority of House and Cabinet are pro-military presumably supportive of the current 2017 Constitution approved by a previous referendum (albeit unfairly).

Petitioning The Ombudsman? Another entrenched pro- military organization.

[Srikcir]

On 8/7/2019 at 11:23 AM, AgMech Cowboy said:

Phue Thai leaders just have not learned their lesson. The first thing they try to do is rewrite the constitution in their favor.  It didn't work out well last time and it won't work out well this time.  They should work with it for a year or two and then start changing the current one.  Then they might get more cooperation and backing... IMHO.

First the PTP had majority in the House as elected representatives of the Thai electorate. Thus, any attempt by the PTP to change the Constitution would reflect the will of the Thai electorate.

 

Second - The PTP did not try to rewrite the 2007 Constitution and that was their mistake. They should have tried, ie., through a Constitutional Amendment. Instead they passed a law whose process of passage was ruled by the Constitutional Court as unconstitutional. They could have followed by redoing the bill passage to comply with the Constitution but the Democrat opposition party made that decision very politically unattractive.

 

With regard to trying to amend the current Constitution (not every Article needs amendment), with a majority pro-military coalition in the House and a junta-appointed Senate in place for the next five years, the best the House opposition coalition can hope for are minor amendments that would garner pro-military support in the House and Senate.

[OneMoreFarang]

First they should follow the law and convince their leader and his little sister to go to jail. Or do they think those people should be above the law? Is that part of the constitution? Maybe the constitution should have a paragraph that every Shinawatra should be above the law? Or maybe not?

[Fex Bluse]

Thai Constitutions are a bit like their promotions.

 

     Draft 1, Get 2 free!

 

What a fascinating country

[chainarong]

On 8/7/2019 at 12:08 PM, Misterwhisper said:

Funny. I always thought that parliament actually WAS the people's assembly. In other countries, that is, but apparently not in Thailand. 

How true , also some times called the house of the people, unfortunately in Thailand its the house of the military.

[jerojero]

Indeed too easy to impose new Constitution by every new Government. However, coup incepted Constitutions should be stricken as soon a civilian government takes over. And coup leaders should be banned from politics at such time also. (Yes, I know, dream on.)

that is exactly how it should be
 
and to be clear - I am not saying I agree or disagree with the current one
 
there are very obviously issues around elections - Senate selection and PM appointment

[scorecard]

On 8/7/2019 at 10:09 AM, Eric Loh said:

Not unprecedented #1997. 

And not unprecedented that this mob will have their own specific agenda of who benefits and it won't be all of Thailand.

[metisdead]

Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed:

 

 

[Fred white]

On 8/7/2019 at 5:53 AM, Lungstib said:

A peoples assembly. Known in most democratic countries as parliament. A place where the people elected leaders gather in order to discuss whats best for the people and the country. But not in Thailand.

Not always Congress in the US gets elected on promises then discuss what benefits the special interest groups, at least we do have the opportunity to get rid of them and change presidents

[Fred white]

49 minutes ago, metisdead said:

Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed:

 

 

Not being argumentative but I have seen comments on other threads referring to this especially the dictatorship