Is it time to bite the bullet and get out?

[Freed1948]

I have booked an appointment at Vientienne for a new tourist visa.

The point is it would be 3rd there this year with 1 from last year.

After reading recent posts here about Immigration clamping down on multiple tourist visas I am wondering

if I should just do a border run to get my last 30 day visa from there and then go back to my home country.

I am on  an OAP from there, but that is it financially. I have an 18 yo Thai son here who is basically dependent on me ,

<deleted>

It would be a big step for me to survive on my OAP, but if needs be so be it.

Just please keep your replies on topic as all assumptions and negatives will be ignored with disdain. 

[baansgr]

Can you not get a dependent visa based on your son

[Blue Muton]

Can you not get a retirement visa?

[DrJack54]

Just now, Blue Muton said:

Can you not get a retirement visa?

Umm, he has Thai son. Think he could get non o based on that. Think cut off age for dependent is 20?

However op might have problems with other aspects. Certainly could not obtain non o based on retirement due to financials.

He is in difficult spot I'm afraid.

[DrJack54]

7 minutes ago, NCC1701A said:

what country are you from?

returning may be best because if you don't have any savings living in SEA is going to be difficult the next 20 years.

 

Agree. Especially if the OP avatar 1948 is d.o.b then good age to return to home country if good medical care and services available. 

[Freed1948]

Thanks four your replies so far.

My financials for dependent child and retirement are insufficient for these.

[whitefarang]

14 hours ago, DrJack54 said:

Umm, he has Thai son. Think he could get non o based on that. Think cut off age for dependent is 20?

However op might have problems with other aspects. Certainly could not obtain non o based on retirement due to financials.

He is in difficult spot I'm afraid.

https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1114006-maximum-thai-child-age-to-get-a-visa-non-o-based-on-thai-child/

[DrJack54]

17 minutes ago, Freed1948 said:

Thanks four your replies so far.

My financials for dependent child and retirement are insufficient for these.

Have you considered a nearby country in SE Asia, where the financials are not required. 

[dcnx]

1 hour ago, Neeranam said:

 I feel sad for half thai kids that are subjected to their fathers telling them that half of them is defective, they grow up with all sorts of psychological  issues.

Jesus H. At what point did he say that’s what he tells his son? 

 

Or are you mixed and that’s what your old man said to you? Your post sounds more like projection than anything.
 

He should be proud he raised a kid here who is able to think like a rational human being
 

 

Edited August 24, 2019 by Rimmer

[1FinickyOne]

24 minutes ago, dcnx said:

raised a kid here who is able to think like a rational human being and not a local.

 

3 hours ago, Freed1948 said:

non thai head on his shoulders that allows him to think logically,

Just because it is not your version of logic, and you do not understand or recognize that there are cultural differences, does not mean it is not logical in the Thai framework of thinking. And we are in Thailand.. 

 

I find people here for the most part, much happier than people in my home country... which seems like a smart and logical way to live... 

 

 

[dotpoom]

On 8/24/2019 at 10:36 AM, Freed1948 said:

if I should just do a border run to get my last 30 day visa from there and then go back to my home

With the greatest respect . ...Your question really is asking strangers..."What is the best move I should make in life. 

    Surely, nobody can answer that question better than yourself?

[Rimmer]

A couple of inflammatory posts and replies have been removed

[mike787]

Would bite the bullet before it bites you and leave...you already know that.

[St George]

23 hours ago, Freed1948 said:

Thanks four your replies so far.

My financials for dependent child and retirement are insufficient for these.

 

 

Does Vientiane ask for financials; I don't think they do at Savannakhet.

 

https://thaivisavientiane.com/

 

In any event, a border hop should cover your requirements. I can't imagine that they would refuse you re-entry.

Edited August 25, 2019 by St George

[shy coconut]

What's with all this bullet biting?

[exppenang]

Is it time to "Bite The Bullet" and get out now?

This is a personal decision that each one of us has to make. It depends on the specific set of circumstances each expat has. Working, retired, married to a Thai, teaching English, etc.

I advise ALL expats here to look BEYOND the TM30 and into the future. This will not be the last immigration fiasco for law-abiding expats trying to carve out an existence here. This is just ONE in a series of ridiculous rules and fees, and it will continue. Don't ask yourself if you can tolerate the TM30 fiasco. Ask yourself if you can tolerate the next one, and the next, and the next and so on.

No matter how cushy and agreeable your current circumstances may be, only a fool would ignore the overall trend without developing a workable exit strategy. Failing to do so will almost certainly end up, sooner or later, in being caught flat-footed when your time does come. Don't fall into the trap that you are immune because of this, that or the other thing.

No expat here is immune. Take as much <deleted> as you like from immigration, pay as many bribes and fines as you want. But do not fool yourself that YOUR DAY will not come.

Immigration will SEE TO IT that your day does come, most likely at a considerable cost of time and money spent.

[madmen]

7 minutes ago, exppenang said:

yourself if you can tolerate the next one, and the next, and the next and so on.

What are you babbling on aabout??? Crystal ball gazing just mudddies the water so stay on topic !

[DrJack54]

2 minutes ago, madmen said:

What are you babbling on aabout??? Crystal ball gazing just mudddies the water so stay on topic !

I think you mean TONIC. 

Clearly that chap enjoys a G&T.

[Ajvat37]

You can just go for single entry non o visa for dependent which has no financial requirements and is good for 90 days.  Sure you have to hit up an embassy every 3 months but sounds like you are doing the that already.  The non o single entry is so easy to get that you can go to a lot of other embassies like in Vietnam that maybe you wouldn’t have for your tourist visa

[ChipButty]

Whatever, I hope you get it sorted out and Good Luck

[1FinickyOne]

5 hours ago, shy coconut said:

What's with all this bullet biting?

The assumed manly way to take pain... from all the old cowboy movies before morphine... 

 

you bit the bullet or you bought the farm... like that. 

[rumak]

5 hours ago, shy coconut said:

What's with all this bullet biting?

YOU WORK YOUR SIDE OF THE STREET.......... AND i'LL WORK MINE  

 

 

[Mansell]

30 minutes ago, rumak said:

YOU WORK YOUR SIDE OF THE STREET.......... AND i'LL WORK MINE  

 

 

Love this movie.....the first great car chase, all the others copy this one. And my favorite actor the ultra cool Steve McQueen.

[RJRS1301]

I am concerned about what happens to the 18 year old son, if OP goes home, he said son is dependent, how will he survive?

What does his future hold while OAP goes home?

[Isaanbiker]

OP, make sure that you have all sorted out to go back home. A place to stay, some friends, etc

 

   Best of luck!! 

[looplaw]

31 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

I am concerned about what happens to the 18 year old son, if OP goes home, he said son is dependent, how will he survive?

What does his future hold while OAP goes home?

He's 18 not a baby, At 16 I was taking care of myself. This guy is looking for pity using his son.

[RJRS1301]

1 minute ago, looplaw said:

He's 18 not a baby, At 16 I was taking care of myself. This guy is looking for pity using his son.

So the gentleman brings a child into the world,  then when it is no longer "convenient" for him, having made no forward plan just retreats to his home country deserting his child.

[fordguy61mi]

1 hour ago, kenk24 said:

The assumed manly way to take pain... from all the old cowboy movies before morphine... 

 

you bit the bullet or you bought the farm... like that. 

It’s normally biting a bullet along with  a shot of whiskey. I watched a lot of westerns as a kid.

[Max69xl]

On 8/24/2019 at 2:07 PM, kenk24 said:

 

Just because it is not your version of logic, and you do not understand or recognize that there are cultural differences, does not mean it is not logical in the Thai framework of thinking. And we are in Thailand.. 

 

I find people here for the most part, much happier than people in my home country... which seems like a smart and logical way to live... 

 

 

Haven't you heard the saying "Ignorance is bliss"?

[Max69xl]

33 minutes ago, RJRS1301 said:

So the gentleman brings a child into the world,  then when it is no longer "convenient" for him, having made no forward plan just retreats to his home country deserting his child.

Well,maybe you can lend him 400k,then he can get a Non-immigrant O Dependancy Visa with 1 year extension. He did mention he doesn't meet the financial requirements.