Pattaya: 4 AM opening is great - but pubs must be "socially responsible"

[webfact]

Pattaya: 4 AM opening is great - but pubs must be "socially responsible"

 

Picture: Sophon Cable TV

 

A leading entertainment industry personality in Pattaya has thrown his weight behind plans for an extension of opening hours in Pattaya saying it is definitely a good idea.

 

But he has cautioned that with the extra trade must come extra responsibility for societal issues.

 

For example pubs and clubs should have alcohol testing stations to tell patrons when they are over the limit to drive - and they must help them get home. 

 

And he has suggested that the best place to pilot the project is Walking Street. 

 

Damrongkiat Pinitkarn is the secretary of the entertainment and tourism industry in Pattaya and an executive at the Hollywood pub. 

 

Picture: Sophon Cable TV

 

He told Sophon Cable TV on Facebook that tourism minister Pipat Ratchakitprakarn's plans to extend opening hours to 4 am to boost tourist spending is a good idea and people in the industry in Pattaya agree. 

 

But he understood that people had reservations from a safety and moral standpoint. Along with extra profits there would also probably be more drinking and driving and pubs and clubs must play their part in helping to limit the impact. 

 

He suggested the following three point plan.

 

1. Pubs and club must not allow any under 20's to drink in their establishments. 

 

2. The clubs should have alcohol testing stations to determine when patrons are over the limit. If they are the clubs should get them a cab or public transport or have a service in place to take them home themselves. 

 

3. An area should be set up where tourists can get a fair price for public transport to take them home. 

 

Damrongkiat believes that Walking Street is the best place to set up a pilot scheme for extending the opening hours to 4 am. 

 

The area is easy to control safety-wise and is a "landmark" in Pattaya, he said. 

 

Source: Sophon Cable TV

 

 

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[Happyman108]

3. An area should be set up where tourists can get a fair price for public transport to take them home. 


And all the tuktuk driver will park in front and block those area demanding 500 baht per trip.

[mok199]

I purpose a 3:30 am happy hour.....LET THE GOOD TIMES ROLL

Edited August 26, 2019 by mok199

[bbi1]

Everyone already knows that all clubs on Walking St opens wayyyyyy past 4am anyway. That would be an early close. Unless the coppers come and spoil the fun for everyone and tell them to close. As to getting fair priced transport it's easy. Just get jump on a songtaew for 10 baht each trip.

[PatOngo]

22 minutes ago, webfact said:

The area is easy to control safety-wise and is a "landmark" in Pattaya, he said. 

[Orton Rd]

That would be more honest if it read brothels should be more socially responsible, nobody goes there just to drink beer.

Edited August 26, 2019 by Orton Rd

[brucegoniners]

What could go wrong?

[Classic Ray]

Licensees should be prosecuted for serving drunken people and drivers for driving with excess alcohol. Both are the job of the police in a civilised country.

[kcpattaya]

Are you kidding me?
Pubs to "keep an eye" on their best clients?
Tell them: "You are drunk; please do NOT order any drinks again!"

[findlay13]

15 minutes ago, Classic Ray said:

Licensees should be prosecuted for serving drunken people and drivers for driving with excess alcohol. Both are the job of the police in a civilised country.

True but good luck with that.

 

[RotBenz8888]

5 minutes ago, kcpattaya said:

Are you kidding me?
Pubs to "keep an eye" on their best clients?
Tell them: "You are drunk; please do NOT order any drinks again!"

Yes its ridiculous. The whole point of extended opening hours is to make people spend more, so bars should encourage binge drinking.

[buanmeerugsaa]

Next, let’s get rid of the ridiculous time limits on selling alcohol in socially responsible shops and supermarkets!

[Matzzon]

Responsible? Sorry, nobody want that heavy load on their shoulders.

[NCC1701A]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

1. Pubs and club must not allow any under 20's to drink in their establishments. 

but boom boom OK.

1 hour ago, webfact said:

2. The clubs should have alcohol testing stations to determine when patrons are over the limit. If they are the clubs should get them a cab or public transport or have a service in place to take them home themselves. 

Doctor Evil saying "Righhhhttttt."

1 hour ago, webfact said:

3. An area should be set up where tourists can get a fair price for public transport to take them home. 

Doctor Evil says "Righhhhttttt" again.

 

 

[HLover]

Seems the honorable farang bar manager types will ensure responsible activities from opening to closing.

[Emdog]

To repeat myself, it's 4 am CLOSING time, not opening. Sheesh!

"3. An area should be set up where tourists can get a fair price for public transport to take them home."

Vietnam?

[Vacuum]

1 hour ago, webfact said:

He suggested the following three point plan.

 

1. Pubs and club must not allow any under 20's to drink in their establishments.

In the real Thailand, this rule have already been implemented.

[miamiman123]

4am opening????? Says it all...stop reading here 

[reargunnerph3]

About time as most countries have bars that open till the early hours. If they don't get customers they'll soon learn to close earlier. Should be good for tourist areas.

[Colabamumbai]

There is no reason bars should be open till 4 a. m. More drunks, more fights and more deaths on the road. 

[Henricus]

People have less to spent nowadays, open till 4 A.M. that means go later and spend the same, no revenue from 18.00 till 22.00 

Staff need to stay longer, cost more, police need on full force, cost more, Hospitals need more staff, cost more, people stay longer in the hotels or home and don`t spend any money inside the city

  

[Crusader]

Totally agree with an earlier post - this will only lead to more of the things people do not need to see - drunks, fights and road carnage... 

[natway09]

Give the licencee the power to take keys off people who are dumb going out drinking  & taking

their vehicle anyway

[Traubert]

Will all those who predict chaos be around at 4am to see it?

 

I don't think anything will change at all.

[bbbbooboo]

Hmmm.... “socially responsible”..... in Thailand? Pull the other one

[chrisinth]

44 minutes ago, Colabamumbai said:

There is no reason bars should be open till 4 a. m. More drunks, more fights and more deaths on the road. 

And yet when you go back to the time when the bars were open 24 hours in Pattaya there were hardly any fights despite the demography we had then and the amount of booze that was consumed.

 

Still, demography changes, as does behavior.

[chrisinth]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

For example pubs and clubs should have alcohol testing stations to tell patrons when they are over the limit to drive - and they must help them get home. 

Does anyone else think they are targeting the wrong areas? As this is meant to be an exercise in getting tourists to spend more, how many tourists drive to Walking Street? It shouldn't affect any long term ex-pat as they understand the rules and, reading TV, nobody would ever do that anyway..........

 

But more to the point, they seem to be overlooking the 'Stay Calm 101, Rule 1: You should never tell a drunk person to do anything.

 

How many fights are going to break out at these alcohol testing stations?

 

IMO, they should be looking at proper security measures as the number one concern. Extending opening hours still gets you to the same bottleneck when it comes to kicking out time.

Edited August 26, 2019 by chrisinth

[Thaifriends]

Walking street 7/11 serves beer at all times so after 4am more party or fight on the streets

[dallen52]

Let's check the numbers.

 

1/.. Fail.   Underage people 

2/.. Fail.   Alcohol testing 

(Not sure if that's consumption or the actual content of the drinks)

3/.. Fail.   Fair price transport 

 

You couldn't make this stuff up if you tried.. 

Maybe it loses something in the translation. 

 

 

 

[bbi1]

51 minutes ago, Traubert said:

Will all those who predict chaos be around at 4am to see it?

 

I don't think anything will change at all.

Of course not. They are snuggly tucked into bed by 8pm.