China says U.S. can do more to reduce fentanyl demand

 

FILE PHOTO - A used needle sits on the ground in a park in Lawrence, Massachusetts, U.S., May 30, 2017. REUTERS/Brian Snyder

 

BEIJING (Reuters) - The U.S. government can do more to reduce demand for fentanyl and should stop shifting the blame onto others, China said on Monday, in another riposte to Trump administration criticism that China is not helping resolve the drug problem.

 

U.S. officials say China is the main source of illicit fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances that are trafficked into the United States, much of it through international mail. China denies that most of the illicit fentanyl entering the United States originates in China.

 

U.S. President Donald Trump this month accused Chinese President Xi Jinping of failing to meet his promises to crack down on the deluge of fentanyl and fentanyl analogues flowing into the United States. China labeled that “blatant slander”.

 

Fentanyl is a cheap, relatively easy-to-synthesize opioid painkiller 50 times more potent than heroin that has played a major role in a devastating U.S. opioid crisis.

 

Speaking at a daily news briefing, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Geng Shuang said the government was playing a positive role is tackling the global drugs issue, and outlined the steps China had taken to control it.

 

The United States consumes 80 percent of the world’s opioids despite having only five percent of the population, Geng said.

 

“When it comes to reducing demand for fentanyl the U.S. government absolutely can do even more,” he added. “The United States should respect the facts, and stop pinning the blame on others.”

 

The U.S. Treasury last Wednesday imposed sanctions on three Chinese men accused of illegally trafficking fentanyl, acting three weeks after Trump accused China of reneging on pledges to stem the flood of the highly addictive synthetic opioid into the United States.

 

The dispute over fentanyl comes as the United States is in the middle of a major trade dispute with China.

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-08-26

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7 minutes ago, snoop1130 said:

The U.S. government can do more to reduce demand

yes.

 

It is true the USA could do more. However it is also true that China needs to stop manufacturing that <deleted> in its entirety and stop sending it to the USA.

If only it was so easy 90%+ junkies are lost forever

How revolting. That stuff is absolutely poison with no serious use. China can never accept blame and correct problems. Blame junkies what a surreal national policy and defense.

 

This is why trade can never work. It's not an honest broker.

The precursor chemicals are generally purchased from China and then used to make Fentanyl in Mexico.   Cutting off the China supply will see the precusors produced elsewhere, most likely in Mexico, Central America or elsewhere in the region.   

 

So, yes, China has a big part in this right now, but it should be remembered it was US based companies like Purdue Pharma that were selling these drugs like candy.  In fact, they were actively pushing them.   Once they got caught up with and after hundreds of thousands of deaths and untold addicts, they have slowed down.   Like most addictive drugs, the supply chain has simply moved.   

I really haven't seen much active effort to stop the demand.   

 Pot calling kettle black. Opiate manufacturing in Afghanistan went from zero to biggest in the world after the Americans invaded. For decades the CIA has been financing operations by supplying drugs to USA slums.  American doctors are the biggest pushers around.  If someone gets drunk and is in an accident does Budweiser get blamed? 

 

 

Edited August 26, 20196 yr by pegman

But Americans like Fentanyl, Why spoil their fun?

 

Plus quite a few states have legalised cannabis, so something needs to kill the munchies or a fair few will explode like Mr Creosote.

See, good ole China White isn't good enough anymore, THC content in today's pot is out of sight, a 42" TV is just to small, a required family's house size has probably tripled in the last 70 yrs. We have become a nation of entitled morons. As soon as they get a round turn on the fentanyl problem something cheaper and more dangerous will be made.

12 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The United States consumes 80 percent of the world’s opioids despite having only five percent of the population

I would imagine this is second only to LSD, considering their voting habits.

With astronomic costs of the US healthcare, opioids are often the only remedy for problems that should be treated differently, as they treat symptoms, not the causes. Most opioids lead to addiction.

 

So you could say that it is the greedy nature of the US healthcare industry that is to blame for this.

7 hours ago, Traubert said:

But Americans like Fentanyl, Why spoil their fun?

 

Plus quite a few states have legalised cannabis, so something needs to kill the munchies or a fair few will explode like Mr Creosote.

 

Good Lord !

 

14 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

It is true the USA could do more. However it is also true that China needs to stop manufacturing that <deleted> in its entirety and stop sending it to the USA.

Because the Chinese government is manufacturing it? 

14 hours ago, Number 6 said:

How revolting. That stuff is absolutely poison with no serious use. China can never accept blame and correct problems. Blame junkies what a surreal national policy and defense.

 

This is why trade can never work. It's not an honest broker.

My late wife would have had 1 years worth of excruciating pain before she died of cancer if had it not been for fentanyl patches.  Oxy and morphene didn't even touch the pain.  I call that a serious use.

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

With astronomic costs of the US healthcare, opioids are often the only remedy for problems that should be treated differently, as they treat symptoms, not the causes. Most opioids lead to addiction.

 

So you could say that it is the greedy nature of the US healthcare industry that is to blame for this.

i gave your post a "like".   I definitely agree with the reason why many "normal" people might turn to opioids.

There are of course a lot of people who just choose to be addicts as well.  The world is a pretty screwed up place.  And of course the great USA is number one .    Tomahawks and Needles   .    We got it all.

Maybe go back to the good old days:

 

2 hours ago, tomazbodner said:

With astronomic costs of the US healthcare, opioids are often the only remedy for problems that should be treated differently, as they treat symptoms, not the causes. Most opioids lead to addiction.

 

So you could say that it is the greedy nature of the US healthcare industry that is to blame for this.

Opioid abuse treatment rates far higher in Medicaid expansion states

The rate of buprenorphine prescriptions for treatment of opioid use disorder among Medicaid patients was far higher on average in Medicaid expansion states than non-expansion states, a new Urban Institute study found.

Between 2011 and 2018, Medicaid prescriptions for buprenorphine maintenance treatment per 1,000 enrollees jumped from 40 to 138 in states that expanded Medicaid to low-income adults under the Affordable Care Act. In non-expansion states, the rate increased from 16 to 41

https://www.modernhealthcare.com/medicaid/opioid-abuse-treatment-rates-far-higher-medicaid-expansion-states

17 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

The United States consumes 80 percent of the world’s opioids 

Wow... y’all really have a problem.

15 hours ago, Number 6 said:

How revolting. That stuff is absolutely poison with no serious use. China can never accept blame and correct problems. Blame junkies what a surreal national policy and defense.

 

This is why trade can never work. It's not an honest broker.

Seems more like the USA is refusing to accept blame, to me. Y’all couldn’t get enough nose candy.... OxyContin... now it’s fentanyl... but it’s chinas fault that Americans are junkies.

 

why is it that other countries don’t have this kind of a national emergency.... much like other countries don’t have a gun slaughter rate like the USA.

 

but hey... guns don’t kill people... people kill people.

same same... fentanyl doesn’t kill people... people kill people.

 

The US constitution grants the people’s the rights to the pursuit of happiness... fentanyl makes them happy... what’s the problem.

 

yall need to stopping blaming others and take responsibility for your societies ills. Governmental corruption keeps it all running nicely thanks to lobbyist “donations”... the rich get richer and blame others... crikey... have a look at yourselves!

 

For the better part of a decade, a San Francisco Bay Area drug ring sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to a Latin American guerrilla army run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. [This drug ring] opened the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles [and, as a result,] the cocaine that flooded in helped spark a crack explosion in urban America.^[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

 

China use's drugs like a fifth column, it did it during the Vietnam war with Heroin, so many G.I's strung out, now Fentanyl originating in China and coming in through Mexico, don't think the P.L.A have any shame or compassion,one must also remember what the British Raj did to the Chinese population in the 1800's with Opium,,Touche.!

19 hours ago, snoop1130 said:

U.S. officials say China is the main source of illicit fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances that are trafficked into the United States, much of it through international mail.

Shipping companies suggested they're already doing what they can.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trade-war-explodes-as-trump-clashes-with-us-firms-over-order-to-abandon-china-block-fentanyl-shipments

• FedEx and UPS both said in statements they already work to identify and remove illegal shipments.
• “FedEx already has extensive security measures in place to prevent the use of our networks for illegal purposes. We follow the laws and regulations everywhere we do business and have a long history of close cooperation with authorities,” the company said.
• “UPS takes a multi-layered approach to security and compliance to identify and prevent delivery of illegal Fentanyl and other illicit substances as well as any other attempts of noncompliant shipments,” the shipping business said.

If U.S. pharmaceutical companies are making legal purchases of fentanyl and fentanyl-related substances from China, FedEx and UPS cannot legally interdict those shipments.

From https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/01/china-fentanyl-substances-crackdown-us-opioids-crisis :   

• “We believe that the United States itself is the main factor in the abuse of fentanyl there,”  - Liu Yuejin, deputy director of the National Narcotics Control Commission (China). American culture was partly to blame. “If the United States truly wants to resolve its fentanyl abuse problem, it needs to strengthen its domestic work.”
• “If China stems the movement of fentanyl and other synthetic opioids to the United States it would have a huge impact, but it would not stop the epidemic,” - Mike Vigil, former head of international operations for the US Drug Enforcement Administration.

The true blame for fentanyl abuse in the U.S.:

https://humorinamerica.wordpress.com/2014/05/19/the-morphology-of-a-humorous-phrase/

 

""The United States consumes 80 percent of the world’s opioids despite having only five percent of the population, Geng said. ""

 

Now I know why my neighbour US is crazy.....

4 hours ago, jany123 said:

Wow... y’all really have a problem.

Seems more like the USA is refusing to accept blame, to me. Y’all couldn’t get enough nose candy.... OxyContin... now it’s fentanyl... but it’s chinas fault that Americans are junkies.

 

why is it that other countries don’t have this kind of a national emergency.... much like other countries don’t have a gun slaughter rate like the USA.

 

but hey... guns don’t kill people... people kill people.

same same... fentanyl doesn’t kill people... people kill people.

 

The US constitution grants the people’s the rights to the pursuit of happiness... fentanyl makes them happy... what’s the problem.

 

yall need to stopping blaming others and take responsibility for your societies ills. Governmental corruption keeps it all running nicely thanks to lobbyist “donations”... the rich get richer and blame others... crikey... have a look at yourselves!

 

For the better part of a decade, a San Francisco Bay Area drug ring sold tons of cocaine to the Crips and Bloods street gangs of Los Angeles and funneled millions in drug profits to a Latin American guerrilla army run by the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. [This drug ring] opened the first pipeline between Colombia's cocaine cartels and the black neighborhoods of Los Angeles [and, as a result,] the cocaine that flooded in helped spark a crack explosion in urban America.^[12]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_involvement_in_Contra_cocaine_trafficking

 

This is one of the most insipid posts I'll read all week. What's worse it's an American.

 

Y'all