Brexit: PM Johnson faces mounting legal, political, diplomatic challenges

[DannyCarlton]

12 minutes ago, evadgib said:

'Mr Crabtree' is this end ol' son ????

Now "Mr. Crabby" I could believe.

[evadgib]

1 minute ago, DannyCarlton said:

Now "Mr. Crabby" I could believe.

I think you'll find that's @billd766 ????

Edited September 1, 2019 by evadgib

[DannyCarlton]

3 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I think you'll find that's Bill ????

I was thinking more "Crabby old git".

[Nigel Garvie]

1 hour ago, Forethat said:

As his intentions are clearly described, I would assume they are also the reason for the parliamentary prorogation in question and that the allotted time is required for planning and preparation?

 

Surely no one can be that naive. Brexiteers have admitted on the radio that "Preparing for the the Queens speech" or whatever was just a cover. The members of the cabinet sound utterly unconvincing, when claiming Boris is telling the truth. It appears that no rational adult in the UK, would expose themselves to utter ridicule by showing that they were gullible enough to believe Boris.

 

Relax, everyone knows why he did it, why waste your time and energy pretending otherwise. .............oh ........I see........you are joking.

[billd766]

25 minutes ago, evadgib said:

I think you'll find that's @billd766 ????

I was a "Crab" for 25 years and proud of it.

 

For them as don't know or understand it, it was military humour.

???? ????

[Forethat]

7 minutes ago, Nigel Garvie said:

Surely no one can be that naive. Brexiteers have admitted on the radio that "Preparing for the the Queens speech" or whatever was just a cover. The members of the cabinet sound utterly unconvincing, when claiming Boris is telling the truth. It appears that no rational adult in the UK, would expose themselves to utter ridicule by showing that they were gullible enough to believe Boris.

 

Relax, everyone knows why he did it, why waste your time and energy pretending otherwise. .............oh ........I see........you are joking.

RIght.

And the earth is flat, we never landed on the moon, Elvis is still alive, WTC was a controlled demolition and the Illuminaties are in complete control of the world.

 

Please, you've had your go. On 23 June 2016 to be exact. Now grow up and stop crying.

 

 

[evadgib]

8 minutes ago, Forethat said:

RIght.

And the earth is flat, we never landed on the moon, Elvis is still alive, WTC was a controlled demolition and the Illuminaties are in complete control of the world.

 

Please, you've had your go. On 23 June 2016 to be exact. Now grow up and stop crying.

That's like banging a dinner gong lol

(49 will be along shortly wearing a bib ???? )

Edited September 1, 2019 by evadgib

[Stupooey]

12 hours ago, nauseus said:

The facts concerning whether the referendum was necessary, or not, are well explained at the end of the VDO in post 63. Our entry into the EEC was only enabled by Heath's deception. UK membership into the EU was driven by Major, then Blair and Brown, who all signed EU treaties, without the referendums that were promised but should have been.

 

The 2016 result itself fact, showing that a referendum, at last, was necessary. 

One notable omission from your list of PMs - Thatcher. Is that because you know she would never have considered holding a referendum, as she understood just how anti-democratic such a 'device' was?

[Stupooey]

5 hours ago, nauseus said:

That's the point, Danny. Leavers did not vote for a deal. They just voted to leave the EU. 

That's what's confusing. May's deal would have resulted in the UK no longer being a member of the EU, but Leavers keep telling us it's 'not what we voted for'.

[Stupooey]

2 hours ago, Forethat said:

As his intentions are clearly described, I would assume they are also the reason for the parliamentary prorogation in question and that the allotted time is required for planning and preparation?

 

Just coincidence, then?

[evadgib]

6 minutes ago, Stupooey said:

That's what's confusing. May's deal would have resulted in the UK no longer being a member of the EU, but Leavers keep telling us it's 'not what we voted for'.

May's 'deal' (treaty) was akin to plugging an electric car into a charger after the wheels had been nicked.

[sunnyboy2018]

Major closed parliament to avoid the cash for questions scandal. And the irony is also that the EU is trying to stop Johnson by interfering in our sovereign affairs!

https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/08/30/the-great-meltdown-newsletter-editorial/

[Nigel Garvie]

40 minutes ago, Forethat said:

RIght.

And the earth is flat, we never landed on the moon, Elvis is still alive, WTC was a controlled demolition and the Illuminaties are in complete control of the world.

 

Please, you've had your go. On 23 June 2016 to be exact. Now grow up and stop crying.

 

 

I was crying with laughter. Now you've compounded the joke by adding more evidence of idiocy! ???? ???? ????

 

It's Illuminati BTW - the word is plural.

[3NUMBAS]

all desperate last gasp options that will fail ..clutching at strawers ...

[Stupooey]

1 hour ago, evadgib said:

May's 'deal' (treaty) was akin to plugging an electric car into a charger after the wheels had been nicked.

So just being out of the EU was not good enough for you, you wanted wheels as well...

[evadgib]

26 minutes ago, Stupooey said:

So just being out of the EU was not good enough for you, you wanted wheels as well...

Full umbillical severance, yes. The EU is a parasitical organisation. Anything less will leave UK looking like Marty Feldman.

 

Edited September 1, 2019 by evadgib

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Stupooey said:

One notable omission from your list of PMs - Thatcher. Is that because you know she would never have considered holding a referendum, as she understood just how anti-democratic such a 'device' was?

At the end she was doing exactly that - considering another one - that's really why she got the old heave-ho!

 

She was very enthusiastic about the 1975 referendum too.

[nauseus]

2 hours ago, Stupooey said:

That's what's confusing. May's deal would have resulted in the UK no longer being a member of the EU, but Leavers keep telling us it's 'not what we voted for'.

May's "deal" is not a deal. It's a treaty which guarantees almost nothing at a bargain basement price of 39B!

[bangrak]

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

May's "deal" is not a deal. It's a treaty which guarantees almost nothing at a bargain basement price of 39B!

Choose on your own for a divorce, but refuse to pay one's share of the couple's open bills and reject undersigned running contracts... Don't mind what names the neighbours call you, just see what the Court's going to do with you... But, hey, here: no-no, not the same, different rules! Ya wish!

[Scott]

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[nauseus]

5 hours ago, bangrak said:

Choose on your own for a divorce, but refuse to pay one's share of the couple's open bills and reject undersigned running contracts... Don't mind what names the neighbours call you, just see what the Court's going to do with you... But, hey, here: no-no, not the same, different rules! Ya wish!

Sunday in Spoonies then?

[sanemax]

5 hours ago, bangrak said:

Choose on your own for a divorce, but refuse to pay one's share of the couple's open bills and reject undersigned running contracts... Don't mind what names the neighbours call you, just see what the Court's going to do with you... But, hey, here: no-no, not the same, different rules! Ya wish!

Although this isnt a case of a married couple getting a divorce , its about the Uk leaving the E.U

[david555]

(So G.E. looming …..)

 

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/01/boris-johnson-brexit-sacrifice-majority-by-withdrawing-whip-from-rebel-mps

Johnson could sacrifice majority by withdrawing whip from rebel MPs

Rebel Tories face deselection over Brexit, as PM abruptly cancels meeting with group including ex-ministers

 

Boris Johnson is prepared to blow up his own parliamentary majority and withdraw the whip from dozens of Conservative MPs if they back plans to stop no-deal Brexit, Tory whips have warned potential rebels, in an extreme move by Downing Street that would pave the way for an imminent general election.

 

As hostilities escalated, Johnson also signalled how serious his intention is to follow through the threat of deselection by abruptly ripping up plans for a meeting with rebellious former ministers, including Philip Hammond and David Gauke, that had been billed as a last-ditch effort to limit support for the action in parliament.

Hammond was offered a one-to-one meeting with the prime minister which he declined, calling it “discourteous” to cancel on the group.

[zorrow424]

Its all over,finished   kaput    ND plus Boris has won,  now just count the days down and all the squabbling is finished   Clutching at straws,even fresh air if the thoughts of reversing Brexit is apparent,get over it

[david555]

3 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Its all over,finished   kaput    ND plus Boris has won,  now just count the days down and all the squabbling is finished   Clutching at straws,even fresh air if the thoughts of reversing Brexit is apparent,get over it

Thanks for the heads up...… I feared already you would not leave once more ….lol 5555

[zorrow424]

1 minute ago, david555 said:

Thanks for the heads up...… I feared already you would not leave once more ….lol 5555

Sounds irish to me......visa  required, remember

[david555]

2 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Sounds irish to me......visa  required, remember

Nope …, me a 146 country visa free access one ????

[david555]

53 minutes ago, zorrow424 said:

Sounds irish to me......visa  required, remember

? BTW visa needed to where ..??

[evadgib]

‘Get Ready for Brexit’ campaign launched

and here's Boris ????

 

Edited September 2, 2019 by evadgib

[david555]

 

Monday 2 September 2019 04:16, UK

...And here is Boris in desperation.... ,threatening  making opposition bigger in numbers ….Oh Boris ...!!

 

https://news.sky.com/story/tory-rebels-who-try-to-block-no-deal-brexit-told-they-will-have-whip-withdrawn-11800021

 

Tory rebels who try to block no-deal Brexit told they will have whip withdrawn

The threat to potential rebels is being issued by Tory whips ahead of a critical week in parliament for the PM's Brexit plans.

Tory MPs who support attempts to block a no-deal Brexit will have the party whip withdrawn and barred from standing as Conservative candidates at the next general election.

The dramatic threat to effectively expel potential rebels from the party is being issued by Tory whips ahead of a critical week in parliament for Boris Johnson's Brexit plans.

 

Withdrawing the whip would see MPs keep their seats in parliament but sit in the Commons as independent MPs.

 

Edited September 2, 2019 by david555