UK PM Johnson wants election to purge no-deal rebels: former minister Gauke

[webfact]

UK PM Johnson wants election to purge no-deal rebels: former minister Gauke

 

Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson speaks during a news conference at the end of the G7 summit in Biarritz, France, August 26, 2019. REUTERS/Dylan Martinez

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson's government plans to lose any Brexit vote this week and call a general election, former justice minister David Gauke said on Monday.

 

"Their strategy to be honest is to lose this week and then seek a general election having removed those of us... who believe we should leave with a deal," Gauke, who opposes a no-deal Brexit, told BBC Radio.

 

(Reporting by Kate Holton and Costas Pitas; editing by Guy Faulconbridge)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-02

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[webfact]

UK's Johnson threatens to purge rebel Brexit lawmakers from party

 

Britain's Prime Minister Boris Johnson gestures during a news conference at the end of the G7 summit in Biarritz, France, August 26, 2019. REUTERS/Dylan Martinez

 

LONDON (Reuters) - British Prime Minister Boris Johnson has threatened to purge any lawmaker in his party who votes against the government on Brexit in a dramatic escalation of tensions ahead of a crucial week at Westminster.

 

A senior source in the whips office, responsible for party enforcement, said any Conservative lawmaker who votes against the government this week would be thrown out of the parliamentary party and banned from standing for the Conservatives in the next election.

 

"The whips are telling Conservative MPs (members of parliament) today a very simple message - if they fail to vote with the government on Tuesday they will be destroying the government’s negotiating position and handing control of parliament to Jeremy Corbyn," the source said.

 

"Any Conservative MP who does this will have the whip withdrawn and will not stand as Conservative candidates in an election."

 

The battle for Brexit will enter the endgame this week when opposition lawmakers from all parties seek to either change the law, or the government, in their drive to block what they say would be an economically damaging no-deal Brexit.

 

Corbyn, leader of the opposition Labour Party, will say on Monday that he is ready to do everything possible to stop a no-deal Brexit, describing it as a final attempt to pull "our country back from the brink".

 

That puts him on a collision course with Johnson, figurehead of the 2016 Vote Leave campaign, who has upped the stakes in the battle since coming to power in July by vowing to take Britain out of the European Union with or without a deal on Oct. 31.

 

He says any attempt to force his hand in parliament through votes this week will hamper his efforts to secure a new deal from Brussels.

 

But Johnson has a working majority of just one seat in the 650-seat chamber, meaning his threat to eject lawmakers such as the former finance minister Philip Hammond or former justice minister David Gauke could lead to an election.

 

"I understand calling an election, maybe even this week, is one of the options under consideration," the BBC's Political Editor Laura Kuenssberg said.

 

"It is far from inevitable, but it's not impossible that, within a matter of days, we could all be asked to go to the polls again."

 

Britain's education minister Gavin Williamson, himself a former chief whip, said Johnson did not want to call an election but it was right to threaten any lawmakers with deselection because they were undermining Britain's position with Brussels.

 

(Reporting by Elizabeth Piper and Guy Faulconbridge; writing by Kate Holton, editing by Darren Schuettler and Costas Pitas)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2019-09-02

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[CG1 Blue]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

"Their strategy to be honest is to lose this week and then seek a general election having removed those of us... who believe we should leave with a deal," Gauke, who opposes a no-deal Brexit, told BBC Radio.

Why do remain MPs try to disguise their intentions by saying things like  "those of us who believe we should leave with a deal"? 

He knows full well 'the deal' we were offered by the EU has failed to get through parliament 3 times. That deal isn't going to get any better no matter how many times they extend Article 50!  

[mercman24]

GOOD get rid of all the traitors, first to go should be TREASON MAY , she alone got us into this mess, From day 1 she was weak, and the EU hierarchy seized on this.  she dug us a big hole

[Chomper Higgot]

4 minutes ago, mercman24 said:

GOOD get rid of all the traitors, first to go should be TREASON MAY , she alone got us into this mess, From day 1 she was weak, and the EU hierarchy seized on this.  she dug us a big hole

Once again, the zealotry and extremism that has come to define Brexit exposed.

[AGareth2]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Once again, the zealotry and extremism that has come to define Brexit exposed.

with a majority of 1 what do you expect him to do?

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, AGareth2 said:

with a majority of 1 what do you expect him to do?

I was referring to the extremist language of the Brexiteer to who’s post I was replying.

[Loiner]

Get ‘em purged Boris. The whole of Parliament is riddled with quislings, but first start with those in the CON Party.


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[Scot123]

3 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

I was referring to the extremist language of the Brexiteer to who’s post I was replying.

OMG! Really. I have been called every name under the sun by remainders and my wife has been insulted as she is Asian. Isn't it great for 3 years we have had our democracy thwarted by the few with insults flying like stupid ignarant, thick, Nazi and racist which is my favorite. I am British and I love my country. Oh and I love history so doing research I know exactly what the EU is and who the treasonous, Traitors, racist are and its not the people who support Brexit. 

[stevenl]

11 minutes ago, Scot123 said:

OMG! Really. I have been called every name under the sun by remainders and my wife has been insulted as she is Asian. Isn't it great for 3 years we have had our democracy thwarted by the few with insults flying like stupid ignarant, thick, Nazi and racist which is my favorite. I am British and I love my country. Oh and I love history so doing research I know exactly what the EU is and who the treasonous, Traitors, racist are and its not the people who support Brexit. 

So you're mercman24?

[Basil B]

For nearly 200 years George Canning has has held the title of being PM for the shortest time, (119 days) looks like Boris is going to inherit the tile.

[webfact]

Brexit: 'Election in October' if MPs block no deal

 

Boris Johnson: "I don't want an election, you don't want an election"

 

The government is expected to table a motion to hold a general election on 14 October if it is defeated by MPs opposed to a no-deal Brexit on Tuesday.

 

Boris Johnson said he did not want an election, but progress with the EU would be "impossible" if they won.

 

Tory rebels are joining forces with Labour to bring a bill designed to stop the UK leaving the EU on 31 October without an agreement.

It would force the PM to request a delay to 31 January 2020 in that event.

 

A senior government official said a motion for an election would be put forward if MPs take the first steps towards passing legislation to block no deal this week.

 

Full story: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-49558596

 

-- © Copyright BBC 2019-09-03

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[Emdog]

"Their strategy to be honest is to lose this week..."

When I see "to be honest" interjected in a statement, alarm goes off in my head. Bit of a "tell".

So the rest of the time you're not being honest? Often "to be honest" leads into a big lie. See it quite often with Mr Trump.

[nauseus]

34 minutes ago, Emdog said:

"Their strategy to be honest is to lose this week..."

When I see "to be honest" interjected in a statement, alarm goes off in my head. Bit of a "tell".

So the rest of the time you're not being honest? Often "to be honest" leads into a big lie. See it quite often with Mr Trump.

This comment was from Gauke, who is anti no deal and probably anti Trump too. Just saying.

Edited September 3, 2019 by nauseus
probably

[JonnyF]

It might finally be time for a General Election to sort out this mess. Let's purge all of those Remain MP's in Leave areas that think their opinion is more important than those of the people that elected them.

 

I suggest the Brexit party stands in any seats that voted Leave but have Remain backing MP's. Get shot of these individuals first. Let them get a real job if they can't represent the wishes of their electorate. In other seats the Brexit party should stand aside to avoid splitting the Leave vote between Tories and The Brexit Party. Sort out the current shower of sheeite in Parliament and then we can Leave properly. Hopefully the likes of Hammond, May, Grieve etc. will lose their seats and disappear into obscurity.

[Basil B]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

"Any Conservative MP who does this will have the whip withdrawn and will not stand as Conservative candidates in an election."

Many Tory MP's are going to lose their seats anyway, and the big names like Ken Clarke could win without the Tory banner...

Edited September 3, 2019 by Basil B

[Thingamabob]

Boris/Tories will win an election very easily.

[Basil B]

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A puppy from an animal rescue charity in south Wales has moved into Downing Street with Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49548946

 

Poor pouch, likely to be homeless again in a few weeks.

[dunroaming]

A local MP was overheard yesterday laughing on his phone and saying that it was all going to "kick off" tomorrow.  That is today now so let's see where we are at close of business.  Johnson expects to lose and then call an election.  It was obvious from his speech in Downing Street last night.  He opened his rant with a campaign pitch which was obviously laying the ground for a snap election.

 

 

[sammieuk1]

The collapse of a country in slow motion as the 52% has dwindled and are about to find out there is no appetite left to leave as the tissue of lies unravel ???? 

[dunroaming]

Johnson's approach continues to sink the pound with it dropping below $1.20 today.  

 

I had a drink last night with a neighbour who has a business exporting ceramics that are made here in the UK.  His order book is full to overflowing and he says the best thing for him would be a no-deal Brexit.  I think that is an exaggeration but I can see where he is coming from.  The weak pound means he can compete and undercut most of his competition who are based Europe.  He admits he is very fortunate because all his raw materials come from within the UK meaning he doesn't have to import them.  Needless to say he picked up the bar tab at the end of the evening.

[joecoolfrog]

1 hour ago, rhyddid said:

Lets go to election ensuring majority of Brits can vote, we shall stop the no deal madness!

If one presumes that Boris and Farage come to an understanding , the Conservatives are likely to win with a fairly large majority.

Although there is now probably a majority of voters in favour of remain , their votes will be shared around , far less so with Brexiters.

If we do end up with no deal , which I think would be a disaster , the blame lays squarely with Corbyn.

He was never going to accept any form of deal , his only thought was to force a general election. It is a small crumb of comfort to know that he has been rumbled and will get annihilated at the polls.

[Chomper Higgot]

Hammond, hated by Brexiteers, was last night re-selected by his constituency Tory Party.

[joecoolfrog]

7 minutes ago, dunroaming said:

Johnson's approach continues to sink the pound with it dropping below $1.20 today.  

 

I had a drink last night with a neighbour who has a business exporting ceramics that are made here in the UK.  His order book is full to overflowing and he says the best thing for him would be a no-deal Brexit.  I think that is an exaggeration but I can see where he is coming from.  The weak pound means he can compete and undercut most of his competition who are based Europe.  He admits he is very fortunate because all his raw materials come from within the UK meaning he doesn't have to import them.  Needless to say he picked up the bar tab at the end of the evening.

Unless Boris by some miracle gets a deal done , there seems little comfort for Sterling.

A general election can only end up with a no deal Tory government or a Corbyn victory , the markets wont like either.

[joecoolfrog]

14 minutes ago, sammieuk1 said:

The collapse of a country in slow motion as the 52% has dwindled and are about to find out there is no appetite left to leave as the tissue of lies unravel ???? 

If the government was formed on the basis of PR then you would be correct , as it stands though the Tories will win comfortably.

[sammieuk1]

15 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

If the government was formed on the basis of PR then you would be correct , as it stands though the Tories will win comfortably.

What half of the Tories are you talking about????

[dunroaming]

39 minutes ago, joecoolfrog said:

Unless Boris by some miracle gets a deal done , there seems little comfort for Sterling.

A general election can only end up with a no deal Tory government or a Corbyn victory , the markets wont like either.

The result of a general election could depend on the swing of voters who are reluctant to vote for Johnson's Conservatives and those who are tired of Corbyn's Labour party antics.  Could end up with a coalition

[Pique Dard]

b.johnson is a joke, but he doesn't it yet

[dunroaming]

Getting interesting now.  If Johnson calls a snap election then he needs Labour to agree to it and although Corbyn has said he is ready, other Labour members have said they would not OK it.  Johnson needs it before 31st October and the proposed date is 14th October.  So it is possible (but still unlikely) that Johnson could lose in the house and then lose again if Labour block the GE.  One of the worries is that Johnson would change the date of the election.  He is devious enough and nobody trusts him one little bit.

 

More Tories appear to turning against Johnson and his bullying tactics.  Interesting times indeed!

[Thaifriends]

Blondie now a proven liar.????