Teenager Thunberg angrily tells U.N. climate summit 'you have stolen my dreams'

[bristolboy]

7 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Wow, what a devastating rebuttal. I'm taken aback. No, really. ????

Still no evidence.

[samran]

38 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

This is such a sad (yet funny) story. Poor Greta has clearly been systematically tortured, propagandized and coerced for years by her actor parents. They are the people who have stolen her childhood, nobody else.

 

She is filled with hate and rage. It's reprehensible that society would celebrate such an abused little girl who throws such temper tantrums instead of having her parents arrested for child abuse.

 

But alas, this is how the totalitarian left works. They use little children to try to convince people to make emotional decisions- decisions which are usually bad ones.

 

If only liberals had shame.

Wow, after 112 pages - such originality. I gave you a 7/10 though. 

 

You hit a lot of the talking points:

 

- Poor Gretta (cue crocodile tears)

- Abusive parents 

- Stolen childhood (nice touch that one)

- Actor parents!!!!!!

- Totalitarian left

- liberals!!!!!!!!

 

Not bad for a new poster. 

 

You missed a few obvious ones though. 

 

- her ‘mental issues’

- no mention of her sail boat

- you didn’t dig the foot enough into the Swedes.

 

I would have given you bonus points if you could have blamed that Muslim Obama for all of this, but for a newbie, not bad...

[RickBradford]

39 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

They use little children to try to convince people to make emotional decisions- decisions which are usually bad ones.

What do you expect?

 

They tried it with the cuddly polar bears and that didn't work, so they had to come up with something better, and a troubled 16-year-old schoolgirl fit the bill magnificently.

 

I tend to absolve Greta "Corky" Thunberg from blame; the poor little thing has no idea what's going on, with the climate or anything else.

 

However, the cadre of activists behind her are displaying utterly revolting manipulation, but hey, that's what activists do.

 

 

[metisdead]

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[bristolboy]

18 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

What do you expect?

 

They tried it with the cuddly polar bears and that didn't work, so they had to come up with something better, and a troubled 16-year-old schoolgirl fit the bill magnificently.

 

I tend to absolve Greta "Corky" Thunberg from blame; the poor little thing has no idea what's going on, with the climate or anything else.

 

However, the cadre of activists behind her are displaying utterly revolting manipulation, but hey, that's what activists do.

 

 

Evidence of this manipulation?

[Crazy Alex]

22 minutes ago, samran said:

Wow, after 112 pages - such originality. I gave you a 7/10 though. 

 

You hit a lot of the talking points:

 

- Poor Gretta (cue crocodile tears)

- Abusive parents 

- Stolen childhood (nice touch that one)

- Actor parents!!!!!!

- Totalitarian left

- liberals!!!!!!!!

 

Not bad for a new poster. 

 

You missed a few obvious ones though. 

 

- her ‘mental issues’

- no mention of her sail boat

- you didn’t dig the foot enough into the Swedes.

 

I would have given you bonus points if you could have blamed that Muslim Obama for all of this, but for a newbie, not bad...

Well, yes. There are many obvious issues in dealing with poor little Greta. And of course, many people will recognize obvious truths and post them.

 

Her mental illness: Yes, that makes her abuse even worse.

I don't care about her sail boat.

The Swedes? Meh. They've got trouble enough dealing with the results of *diversification*. I see no reason to pound on them any further. It's a parenting issue, not an issue of national identity.

[Crazy Alex]

1 minute ago, bristolboy said:

Evidence of this manipulation?

Her temper tantrum, er, speech. No child becomes this emotional about something without being terrorized. Logic dictates it was her actor parents.

 

 

Evidence of hatred:

 

 

If you think this happens without adults making it happen, there's no amount of evidence that will ever satisfy you.

 

Good day.

 

 

[bristolboy]

3 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Her temper tantrum, er, speech. No child becomes this emotional about something without being terrorized. Logic dictates it was her actor parents.

 

 

Evidence of hatred:

 

 

If you think this happens without adults making it happen, there's no amount of evidence that will ever satisfy you.

 

Good day.

 

 

No, your political biases are determining that. For you and the likeminded, this is just a Rorschach test.

[Crazy Alex]

Just now, bristolboy said:

No, your political biases are determining that. For you and the likeminded, this is just a Rorschach test.

You're big on evidence. Let's see yours.

[bristolboy]

1 minute ago, Crazy Alex said:

You're big on evidence. Let's see yours.

First thing.

One thing that distinguishes people with Asperger's is their inability to lie. 

"On the opposite end of the spectrum are those rare individuals who might be described as "pathological truth-tellers." These people forego socially convenient and appropriate fibs to speak the unvarnished, upsetting truth.

Intriguingly, this "lying handicap" is a common feature of the developmental disorder high-functioning autism and Asperger's Syndrome."

https://www.livescience.com/17407-pathological-liars-honest-psychology.html

Second thing:

"It felt like I was the only one who cared about the climate and the ecological crisis," Thunberg told me. "My parents didn't care about it, my classmates didn't care about it, my relatives didn't care about this. I mean nobody I knew cared about this and I felt like I was the only one."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49855980

from there on she tells about how she worked to persuade her parents and then others.

 

[DrTuner]

2 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

 

"It felt like I was the only one who cared about the climate and the ecological crisis," Thunberg told me.

Yes, all about feelings. That's what PR is about. Pull 'em heartstrings.

[Crazy Alex]

5 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

First thing.

One thing that distinguishes people with Asperger's is their inability to lie. 

"On the opposite end of the spectrum are those rare individuals who might be described as "pathological truth-tellers." These people forego socially convenient and appropriate fibs to speak the unvarnished, upsetting truth.

Intriguingly, this "lying handicap" is a common feature of the developmental disorder high-functioning autism and Asperger's Syndrome."

https://www.livescience.com/17407-pathological-liars-honest-psychology.html

Second thing:

"It felt like I was the only one who cared about the climate and the ecological crisis," Thunberg told me. "My parents didn't care about it, my classmates didn't care about it, my relatives didn't care about this. I mean nobody I knew cared about this and I felt like I was the only one."

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-49855980

from there on she tells about how she worked to persuade her parents and then others.

 

OK, let's deal with your first thing. It is a lie. Children with Asperger's do in fact lie:

 

http://parentingaspergers.com/blog/aspergers-lie/

 

Of course, you missed that she is depressed and diagnosed with autism. Nice try. Your evidence turns out to be nothing. And of course, given she's a leftist climate change hustler, of course she's going to lie.

[RickBradford]

12 minutes ago, bristolboy said:

One thing that distinguishes people with Asperger's is their inability to lie. 

I don't think it is necessary to suggest that Greta Thunberg is wilfuly lying. I think she clearly believes what she is saying.

 

The question is: How did she come to believe what she believes about the climate?

 

Is it via her own detailed scientific research? A deep understanding of atmospheric physics? An advanced degree in statistics?

 

Or is it what she has been told by adults whom she has met and been introduced to? Her ability to see CO2 gas? Indoctrination from activists pushing their own agenda and subsequently using this unfortunate young girl as a human shield?

 

Another facet of Asperger's is the tendency to engage in black-and-white thinking, with no room for nuance or doubt. Once a belief is embedded, it is unshakeable to a large degree in Asperger's sufferers.

[Chomper Higgot]

1 hour ago, Crazy Alex said:

Wow, what a devastating rebuttal. I'm taken aback. No, really. ????

You could produce the evidence.

[Chomper Higgot]

49 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

I don't think it is necessary to suggest that Greta Thunberg is wilfuly lying. I think she clearly believes what she is saying.

 

The question is: How did she come to believe what she believes about the climate?

 

Is it via her own detailed scientific research? A deep understanding of atmospheric physics? An advanced degree in statistics?

 

Or is it what she has been told by adults whom she has met and been introduced to? Her ability to see CO2 gas? Indoctrination from activists pushing their own agenda and subsequently using this unfortunate young girl as a human shield?

 

Another facet of Asperger's is the tendency to engage in black-and-white thinking, with no room for nuance or doubt. Once a belief is embedded, it is unshakeable to a large degree in Asperger's sufferers.

How did you come by your views on climate change, did you do your own scientific research etc?

 

I’m sorry to hear the difficulties you face with Aspergers.

[Chomper Higgot]

The bile spewed in this thread against this child is a sad indictment of this forum.

[Crazy Alex]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

How did you come by your views on climate change, did you do your own scientific research etc?

 

I’m sorry to hear the difficulties you face with Aspergers.

Let's see your evidence he has difficulties he faces with Asperger's. Hey, I love this game!

[Chomper Higgot]

1 minute ago, Crazy Alex said:

Let's see your evidence he has difficulties he faces with Asperger's. Hey, I love this game!

It’s an assumption I draw based on his asserted authority on the condition.

[Crazy Alex]

4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The bile spewed in this thread against this child is a sad indictment of this forum.

No. The only sad indictment is leftists abusing an obviously troubled little girl and holding her up as a human shield. Her parents have put her into the adult end of the pool. Now she gets to play by the adult rules. Your attempt to shield a political pundit from scrutiny and rebuttals is hereby rejected. What a sad indictment of liberalism that you try such a old trick.

 

Oh and may I suggest you work on your faux outrage?

[Crazy Alex]

1 minute ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s an assumption I draw based on his asserted authority on the condition.

Yes, it's true. We can all search for information, learn from it and post about what we learned. This isn't news.

[chokrai]

7 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The bile spewed in this thread against this child is a sad indictment of this forum.

You are using this child as a shield protecting your own bias. 

[Chomper Higgot]

5 minutes ago, chokrai said:

You are using this child as a shield protecting your own bias. 

I’m doing no such thing.

 

But don’t let that get in the way of your unsubstantiated allegations.

[Chomper Higgot]

11 minutes ago, Crazy Alex said:

Yes, it's true. We can all search for information, learn from it and post about what we learned. This isn't news.

As you demonstrate, the information you find doesn’t make sense.

 

I suspect it’s where you go looking for it.

[Crazy Alex]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As you demonstrate, the information you find doesn’t make sense.

 

I suspect it’s where you go looking for it.

Do let me know when you decide to make a substantive reply that has actual content to rebut.

[Tug]

2 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

As you demonstrate, the information you find doesn’t make sense.

 

I suspect it’s where you go looking for it.

Chomper you are an old hand on tv you should know better than to respond to an obvious troll lol !! Lol

[Crazy Alex]

2 minutes ago, Tug said:

Chomper you are an old hand on tv you should know better than to respond to an obvious troll lol !! Lol

Translation: I was also unable to think up and post a cognitive argument. How about we just high-five each other and hope no one notices, ol' chum?

[Chomper Higgot]

3 minutes ago, Tug said:

Chomper you are an old hand on tv you should know better than to respond to an obvious troll lol !! Lol

I think you are correct, all the marks of a troll.

[Orton Rd]

Just what where her dreams that got destroyed?

[Bluespunk]

42 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

You could produce the evidence.

I really doubt they can. 

[medic5678]

No solutions, just anger and a sense of entitlement.  Let her grow up in Thailand living like many of these people do and experience some real hardship.  She's living in a fully industrialized nation and enjoying the full benefits of modern life.  She's been flying around in a jet talking on her cell phone.  Talk about hypocrisy!   But I don't blame her.  She's just a brainwashed drone of adult puppeteers.  She's just a billboard for them.  

 

It's actually a form of child abuse.  Her message offers no answers, only rehashing what her handlers have been saying for years.  The ONLY thing unique is that she's a kid.  Time will take care of that and she'll be a nobody.